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Eraggan Sadarr
Comply Or Die
Posted - 2009.01.07 12:14:00 - [151]
 

Originally by: acteras
It'd be neat to have the "find bargain, highest buy" etc... drop down menus keep their value when switching items (now, every time I switch items, both go automatically to "Find bargain"). This would save a LOT of effort, especially since I trade amongst many regions (Find Bargain works fine if I'm working only two regions) - unless I'm doing something wrong (I don't really understand what the "Find Bargain" function does - could you explain a little better on the top post? Shouldn't "Find Bargain" just be a button that shows best places to buy and sell a currently selected item? I likely just don't know how it works).

I'll send ISK at some point, but I'm currently trading on borrowed ISK, so it might take a while.


If i understand your question correctly: "Find bargain" is just the name for the 4 items in the dropdown (highest/lowest sell/buy). So "find bargain" doesn't do anything in itself. When you choose an item in the dropdown e.g. "Lowest Sell", then you get the effect of the region with the lowest sell being displayed.

I guess i could make an option for the "Find bargain" dropdown to keep it's selected function (e.g. "Lowest Sell", etc.) between item selection. I would probably place it as an option in the options menu. as there is precious little room in the main window as it is (also the reason i dropped the idea of more than 2 regions side by side).

Did i understand you correctly?

acteras
Posted - 2009.01.07 23:17:00 - [152]
 

Perfectly. Thank you for the input, I did not realize "Find Bargain" was a label representing the rest of the options. Perhaps display "Find Bargain" in italics? (I couldn't resist...)

Awesome program, things that would take hours take minutes now.

Eraggan Sadarr
Comply Or Die
Posted - 2009.01.09 20:09:00 - [153]
 

Originally by: acteras
Perhaps display "Find Bargain" in italics? (I couldn't resist...)


Already implemented for next version :)

Tako Yaki
Posted - 2009.01.10 03:56:00 - [154]
 

Installed, and can't get it to work :( I've got plenty of exported files, in the default directory (also tried manually browsing to the directory). The status at the top just says "none detected".

Downloaded and installed EveMon which seems to work fine.

any ideas? thanks!

Eraggan Sadarr
Comply Or Die
Posted - 2009.01.10 10:15:00 - [155]
 

Originally by: Tako Yaki
Installed, and can't get it to work :( I've got plenty of exported files, in the default directory (also tried manually browsing to the directory). The status at the top just says "none detected".

Downloaded and installed EveMon which seems to work fine.

any ideas? thanks!


Well. None detected, just means that there are no immediate changes in the log folder (i.e. no added/deleted/modified files). You just have to click the "Load Marketlogs" button. Then select an item from the Items dropdown, then a region and then you should see a marketlog.
Tell me if you still have problems.

Tako Yaki
Posted - 2009.01.10 16:54:00 - [156]
 

Edited by: Tako Yaki on 10/01/2009 17:04:45
Still not working. Pretty sure I followed the directions carefully.

Here's some info:

  • OS - Win XP
  • First joined eve - January 1st, 2009
  • Eve version - 5.20.72263 (Quantum Rise)


Market log file names:
Verge Vendor-Mexallon-2009.01.10 035242.txt
Verge Vendor-Miner I-2009.01.10 061256.txt

Hope this helps and thanks for replying!

Tako Yaki
Posted - 2009.01.10 17:08:00 - [157]
 

Ok, it's working now. However it was a strange path to get there.

First I needed to create a bunch more marketlogs
Then I deleted one (Miner I) while the app was running
Then reloaded the log files.

Now it seems to work fine, even when I revert back to the 2 logs I was originally having problems with. Pretty weird!

Does EMS keep some state between sessions or something?


Eraggan Sadarr
Comply Or Die
Posted - 2009.01.11 19:07:00 - [158]
 

Originally by: Tako Yaki
Ok, it's working now. However it was a strange path to get there.

First I needed to create a bunch more marketlogs
Then I deleted one (Miner I) while the app was running
Then reloaded the log files.

Now it seems to work fine, even when I revert back to the 2 logs I was originally having problems with. Pretty weird!

Does EMS keep some state between sessions or something?




Yes that sounds strange. And no, EMS does not keep state on what logs you have. They are reread every time. I'm not quite sure it's an EMS bug, but if anyone else experiences this, then please report it here.

Eraggan Sadarr
Comply Or Die
Posted - 2009.01.28 14:35:00 - [159]
 

/a little bump

Aya Sin
Posted - 2009.01.28 20:23:00 - [160]
 

Originally by: Eraggan Sadarr
Originally by: acteras
Perhaps display "Find Bargain" in italics? (I couldn't resist...)


Already implemented for next version :)


I was about to report that Find Bargain doesn't work for me :)

You might also consider disabling the text-edit feature of that combo box as there really isn't anything to edit. Also allows the user to click anywhere on the box to open it as opposed to the dropdown arrow only.

Anyways, nice work and very much appreciated!

Eraggan Sadarr
Comply Or Die
Posted - 2009.01.29 00:32:00 - [161]
 

Version 1.2 is up!

v1.2.0
- Feature: Bargain finder is changed to "Find where to..." in an attempt to give more intuitive options.
- Added: -1.0 is added to give full security filter range.
- GUI Fix: Selection boxes are easier to read.
- Fixed: Right-click context menu on table headers were broken
- Fixed: Min quantity filter was off by 1.
- Fixed: Bargain finder didn't take security and quantity filter properly into account.

Thanks to Trader Mags for the suggestions and constructive feedback Smile

Tell me if you have any problems.

Eraggan Sadarr
Comply Or Die
Posted - 2009.01.29 12:59:00 - [162]
 

Originally by: Aya Sin

I was about to report that Find Bargain doesn't work for me :)

You might also consider disabling the text-edit feature of that combo box as there really isn't anything to edit. Also allows the user to click anywhere on the box to open it as opposed to the dropdown arrow only.

Anyways, nice work and very much appreciated!


Then i think the new version will be to your liking.

Eraggan Sadarr
Comply Or Die
Posted - 2009.02.10 21:55:00 - [163]
 

Once again, time is scarce.
Hope i can get back to developing soon.

Fly safe.

Corpia Sin
Posted - 2009.02.11 22:16:00 - [164]
 

Edited by: Corpia Sin on 11/02/2009 22:18:37
Edited by: Corpia Sin on 11/02/2009 22:17:09

Before I download I had a question.

The market buy/sell price for any given item changes at any given moment. The market from hour to hour for any given item changes - we all understand this. How can an app that logs market info on X date and time be relevant 24hours later? In 24 hours that particular market for that particular item could have crashed in the meantime.

I am a perfectionist and check each region's market for item X everyday no matter what - I just log on my alt and dual monitor the info.

So really what benefit does this app provide other than a history log if it doesn't auto update for you.

I understand according to the description - if you export market details of a 'Raven' that you can view that info later. That's all well and good if you only have one account and need to recall some info while traveling across multiple regions, but what about someone who has a second account? And you can just write down the market details on notepad because you know in about 2 hours that market will change.

Guess I am trying to see how people use this app as it just seems as a simple logger that you would have to update every time - which could be tedious with little advantages. Not to knock your effort - as it seems this app has been successful and good luck to you.

Eraggan Sadarr
Comply Or Die
Posted - 2009.02.13 00:19:00 - [165]
 

Edited by: Eraggan Sadarr on 13/02/2009 00:22:34
Originally by: Corpia Sin

Before I download I had a question.

The market buy/sell price for any given item changes at any given moment. The market from hour to hour for any given item changes - we all understand this. How can an app that logs market info on X date and time be relevant 24hours later? In 24 hours that particular market for that particular item could have crashed in the meantime.

I am a perfectionist and check each region's market for item X everyday no matter what - I just log on my alt and dual monitor the info.

So really what benefit does this app provide other than a history log if it doesn't auto update for you.

I understand according to the description - if you export market details of a 'Raven' that you can view that info later. That's all well and good if you only have one account and need to recall some info while traveling across multiple regions, but what about someone who has a second account? And you can just write down the market details on notepad because you know in about 2 hours that market will change.

Guess I am trying to see how people use this app as it just seems as a simple logger that you would have to update every time - which could be tedious with little advantages. Not to knock your effort - as it seems this app has been successful and good luck to you.


Eve Market Scanner (EMS) is actually better the more accounts in different region you have. Because then you can easily export logs on several items and regions and quickly compare them. EMS even updates as you export the logs so they are readily available.
EMS can filter by quantity and system security. So if you want to find the cheapest places to buy 6 Ravens in highsec, then EMS can show you. Provided the exports for the regions you want to compare. EMS does not provide a history as it always uses the latest export of any given item. EMS was meant as a way to quickly compare several (all if you want) regions without having to look at hard to read comma separated files. So by the time you have written 4 regional prices in notepad, an EMS user would have bought the cheapest item. So you are right. The market changes quickly.

There is more to it, but if you want to write it off before you have even tried it, then good luck to you too Smile

Corpia Sin
Posted - 2009.02.13 01:11:00 - [166]
 

Nope haven't wrote it off and thanks for the clarification.

I downloaded it and quite enjoying it. Thanks


ResearchBunny Beatrix
Posted - 2009.02.13 01:21:00 - [167]
 

Just wanted to say thanks for this - it's a lot easier than alt-tabbing between two clients Very Happy

Eraggan Sadarr
Comply Or Die
Posted - 2009.02.13 10:41:00 - [168]
 

Originally by: Corpia Sin
Nope haven't wrote it off and thanks for the clarification.

I downloaded it and quite enjoying it. Thanks


Originally by: ResearchBunny Beatrix
Just wanted to say thanks for this - it's a lot easier than alt-tabbing between two clients Very Happy


I'm glad you both find it useful Smile
And if EMS by any chance makes you lots of isk, feel free to donate a bit of it Wink

Eraggan Sadarr
Comply Or Die
Posted - 2009.03.02 22:56:00 - [169]
 

/bumpy

Dealth Striker
Caldari
Striker Ltd
Posted - 2009.03.03 22:07:00 - [170]
 

Excellent Program.
Thank you very much for all the hard work you have put into making this program.

Dealth

Eraggan Sadarr
Comply Or Die
Posted - 2009.03.05 07:50:00 - [171]
 

Originally by: Dealth Striker
Excellent Program.
Thank you very much for all the hard work you have put into making this program.

Dealth


Thank you very much, and thanks for the large donation. Very much appreciated Very Happy
Please tell if you have any feature ideas.

Eraggan Sadarr
Comply Or Die
Posted - 2009.03.10 22:23:00 - [172]
 

Update pending for Apocrypha data, as soon as the data export is released.

Emporia Tzard
Posted - 2009.03.30 14:08:00 - [173]
 

I find this application really useful, but recently I have seen the way that Eve Metrics collects it's data and think that your Eve Market Scanner could be much better if you were to use a similar system.

Basically they are collecting the data by scraping it out of the Eve Cache instead of having to rely in the Eve Market logs. If your program could do the same then it would save me much painful mouse clicking to get the info I want.

Eraggan Sadarr
Comply Or Die
Posted - 2009.04.02 10:33:00 - [174]
 

Originally by: Emporia Tzard
I find this application really useful, but recently I have seen the way that Eve Metrics collects it's data and think that your Eve Market Scanner could be much better if you were to use a similar system.

Basically they are collecting the data by scraping it out of the Eve Cache instead of having to rely in the Eve Market logs. If your program could do the same then it would save me much painful mouse clicking to get the info I want.



I see that eve metrics have some sort of developer API, so i guess there is a possibility of using their data, although it might be a lot of work, and my time is very limited atm. Also, if I were to implement this, i'd like some confirmation from CCP that this is not in violation of the EULA!
I do know that a lot of people like the "privacy" of EMS, but i agree that it would be nice to have the option to use eve metrics data. I would have to implement a proper item browser first (which sadly also increases the application size), so it might be a bit in the future. But please post some link to where the legality of Eve metrics is shown, and i will consider it.

Emporia Tzard
Posted - 2009.04.04 08:34:00 - [175]
 

I didn't really mean for you to use Eve Metric's data, but rather you could pull the market info in the same way that they do, without having to create market logs for each item.

The Eve Metrics people have had it confirmed that it does not break the EULA. I'm sure a GM would cofirm that for you via a petition.

Eraggan Sadarr
Comply Or Die
Posted - 2009.04.06 21:35:00 - [176]
 

Originally by: Emporia Tzard
I didn't really mean for you to use Eve Metric's data, but rather you could pull the market info in the same way that they do, without having to create market logs for each item.

The Eve Metrics people have had it confirmed that it does not break the EULA. I'm sure a GM would cofirm that for you via a petition.


Well, Emporia, The scraping is quite an involved process as you have to give it a lot of work to decipher the cache files, which the eve metrics guys also state in their thread. So this will not be an option for EMS as i simply don't have the time to put into it. But i actually like the idea of being able to choose between the public data from evemetrics or your own privately exported logs. So i might work towards that in the nearest future. As i have also been reassured enough that it is not an EULA violation. Thx for the tip.

Eraggan Sadarr
Comply Or Die
Posted - 2009.04.16 11:49:00 - [177]
 

Status:

I am working on implementing a market browser tree on the left which marks the current marketlogs loaded. It should make it easier to reach specific items when you have many marketlogs loaded.
This is also to facilitate the later implementation of optional eve-metrics data.

Please post any bug reports on the old version 1.2 if any.

Eraggan Sadarr
Comply Or Die
Posted - 2009.05.15 11:48:00 - [178]
 

A little update for you guys:
I have been a bit too busy IRL. Hopefully i can continue development soon...

Tikael
Minmatar
Distorted Inspiration Inc.
Posted - 2009.05.31 22:32:00 - [179]
 

Another satisfied user here Very Happy
But there is something I'd like to point out in the program.

If I change the order and size of items in the column (i.e. Jumps, Quantity, Volume Entered, etc.), the changes are not saved and therefore it returns to the original state everytime I restart the program.

Is it intended to be that way, or is there something that I'm missing out?

PS. Let's see if I can make some donation from my escrows :P

Eraggan Sadarr
Comply Or Die
Posted - 2009.06.01 20:03:00 - [180]
 

Originally by: Tikael
Another satisfied user here Very Happy
But there is something I'd like to point out in the program.

If I change the order and size of items in the column (i.e. Jumps, Quantity, Volume Entered, etc.), the changes are not saved and therefore it returns to the original state everytime I restart the program.

Is it intended to be that way, or is there something that I'm missing out?

PS. Let's see if I can make some donation from my escrows :P


This is the intended behavior so far. As it would be a bit boring to code Wink
But if it is a request from more people i will of course take a look at it. Order and shown columns would be the most reasonable to implement, as size is based on the size the app is running at, and is more dynamic. Tell me what you need.


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