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ollobrains
Gallente
5th Front enterprises
Chain of Chaos
Posted - 2007.09.05 01:52:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: ollobrains on 05/09/2007 10:27:30
War declared fighting can begin in 24 hours. NEO pilots please keep it civil, smackfree and lets nail us some targets , if repo feels like giving us some explanation feel free if not thats also fine, see u in 21 odd hours :)

YARRRR!!

Sasha Evergreen
Gallente
Sand Castle Generals
Posted - 2007.09.05 01:53:00 - [2]
 

they're like privateers, but without the experience

Nisana
Amarr
No Quarter.
Vae Victis.
Posted - 2007.09.05 01:57:00 - [3]
 

During our recent war with Repo, I personally found them to be honorable, and fun people to PvP against.

Enjoy the fighting!

ollobrains
Gallente
5th Front enterprises
Chain of Chaos
Posted - 2007.09.05 02:08:00 - [4]
 

Yes i expect NEO pilots to be honourable and keep it smack free, we are a bit dispersed tho so they are going to have to work hard :) We will be ready tho. Looking forward to it we havent had this much fun since the privateer wars. And if i remember back when i was flying with NEO ( i joined privs for a while after that) while NEO was war free from privs we did match it with em over 4 decs in about 4 months.

We havent had any action except some low sec pew pew in recent times. So could be good for morale YARRRR!!

Brunswick2
Amarr
coracao ardente
Posted - 2007.09.05 02:11:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Brunswick2 on 05/09/2007 02:11:18
is NEO the new new m0o?

oDDiTy V2
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2007.09.05 02:14:00 - [6]
 

Oh no its ollobrains! lawl.

ollobrains
Gallente
5th Front enterprises
Chain of Chaos
Posted - 2007.09.05 02:45:00 - [7]
 

Hehe yes that one comes back to bite me on the a*s. Meh no we make no claims of being the new moo. This represents some fun ugh

Karinith
Caldari
Repo Industries
Posted - 2007.09.05 03:37:00 - [8]
 

Contract. Business as usual.

*toast* for some good fighting to come. See you guys on the field, good luck to all....and have a good time.

ollobrains
Gallente
5th Front enterprises
Chain of Chaos
Posted - 2007.09.05 03:46:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Karinith
Contract. Business as usual.

*toast* for some good fighting to come. See you guys on the field, good luck to all....and have a good time.


as one of the alliance diplomats its my duty at least to ask on public record if u or youre client wishes to disclose their identity. some peeps in NEO would love to know if youre client is a publicity seeking ex member with a grudge or just opportunistic try to kill us routine.

if u wish to keep it a secret i can at least point em to this thread and go well i did ask :). Thats about it from me for now see u guys tomorrow. Ill post a few updates for anyone else interested during the week and at the end of the war on progress as per some internal requests

Flyinhigh
Gallente
5th Front enterprises
DAMAGE INC...
Posted - 2007.09.05 05:08:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Flyinhigh on 05/09/2007 05:09:55
Civil and smackfree it is...

Looking forward to it... Laughing

Chasm Illyaki
Caldari
Repo Industries
Posted - 2007.09.05 05:43:00 - [11]
 

safe to say the client will tell you who they are if they want you to know. that detail is not our job. take solice in the fact that we told you it's a contract.

Mayalla
Amarr
BulletProof Monks
Sons of Tangra
Posted - 2007.09.05 08:07:00 - [12]
 

wtf? ollo is back in NEO? what happend to privateers time?

ollobrains
Gallente
5th Front enterprises
Chain of Chaos
Posted - 2007.09.05 08:09:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Mayalla
wtf? ollo is back in NEO? what happend to privateers time?


been there done that. Taking this thread off topic, hows ROT going

Mayalla
Amarr
BulletProof Monks
Sons of Tangra
Posted - 2007.09.05 08:22:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Mayalla on 05/09/2007 08:23:09
Great, but we still visit Mai regulary. Actually, I'm there right now if you wanna come and visit...Cool

Well, not "right" now, now i'm working. But I will be logged at around 17:00 hours EVE time...

ollobrains
Gallente
5th Front enterprises
Chain of Chaos
Posted - 2007.09.05 08:26:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Mayalla
Edited by: Mayalla on 05/09/2007 08:23:09
Great, but we still visit Mai regulary. Actually, I'm there right now if you wanna come and visit...Cool

Well, not "right" now, now i'm working. But I will be logged at around 17:00 hours EVE time...


im all over i do drop by at least every fortnight got slaven last time. Might come pay a visit always a fun system if im lucky might even have a few war targets stalking me :)

ollobrains
Gallente
5th Front enterprises
Chain of Chaos
Posted - 2007.09.05 10:13:00 - [16]
 

Hirer is known, retraction is requested while diplomatic options are explored. If this isnt done this minor issue may well blow up into something much much bigger.

U know who u are and so do I now u have 24 hours to call this off. ( this is directed at the hirer not repo industries) if youre client fails to act we will see u respectfully in space

thedragoon
Caldari
BURN EDEN
Posted - 2007.09.05 10:17:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: ollobrains
War declared fighting can begin in 24 hours. NEO pilots please keep it civil, smackfree and lets nail us some targets , if repo feels like giving us some explanation feel free if not thats also fine, see u in 22 odd hours :)

YARRRR!!


22 is even not odd hours Exclamation

Kaaii
Caldari
Kaaii-Net Research Labs
KAAII-NET
Posted - 2007.09.05 11:03:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Kaaii on 05/09/2007 11:42:15

The answer you seek is here....

After repeated attempts to contact X1 and his CEO to make things right, a few mails were exchanged, a couple of shrugs and a oh well. As this was not to my liking I decided to line up a few merc corps, and see if your 38% efficiency can get any worse (gleaned from many kill boards), it should be an interesting few months...


Sometimes, its not about the money.....Wink

Give'm hell Repro.




Jin Steele
Caldari
Port Royal Independent Kontractors
Atrum Tempestas Foedus
Posted - 2007.09.05 11:20:00 - [19]
 

wait, who the **** gave ollobrains control of an alliance?

ollobrains
Gallente
5th Front enterprises
Chain of Chaos
Posted - 2007.09.05 12:13:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Kaaii
Edited by: Kaaii on 05/09/2007 11:42:15

The answer you seek is here....

After repeated attempts to contact X1 and his CEO to make things right, a few mails were exchanged, a couple of shrugs and a oh well. As this was not to my liking I decided to line up a few merc corps, and see if your 38% efficiency can get any worse (gleaned from many kill boards), it should be an interesting few months...


Sometimes, its not about the money.....Wink

Give'm hell Repro.






now you have come out of the woodwork from my understanding half the ISK was offered. U have also put in jeporday the saftey of youre alliance mates by youre actions, NEO currently has EO as light blue as per previous agreement. Youre CEO has been contacted by arunna, i have nothing to add pending discussions with youre corp leader. At this time NEO pilots are under orders not to engage EO pilots unless attacked. From what i understand we seek a solution to this , if nothing comes of it then further action may be intitated.

New Eve Order pilots at this time we are still under orders to attack the war targets planning will proceed. U will be advised if the situation changes

ollobrains
Gallente
5th Front enterprises
Chain of Chaos
Posted - 2007.09.05 12:18:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Jin Steele
wait, who the **** gave ollobrains control of an alliance?


My creation, im now on the council of CEOs im no longer alliance head but 1 of 3 diplomats and also one of the alliance FCs. We still seek a peaceful resolution, this seems to be the result of a single member of EO with a grudge despite restitution being offered it was declined and it seems to us atm he has gone out and put his whole alliance on the firing line by his actions, we still hope cooler heads will prevail if not the council will discuss further measures.

NEO still maintains previous light blue standings with EO pilots unless engaged first - they can then defend themselveshowever if attacked - as ive been instructed one lowly ranked pilots personal actions do not reflect those of his alliance at this time. Hopefully the matter will be dealt with as soon as possible

Kaaii
Caldari
Kaaii-Net Research Labs
KAAII-NET
Posted - 2007.09.05 14:09:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Kaaii on 05/09/2007 14:10:06
Originally by: ollobrains
Originally by: Jin Steele
wait, who the **** gave ollobrains control of an alliance?


My creation, im now on the council of CEOs im no longer alliance head but 1 of 3 diplomats and also one of the alliance FCs. We still seek a peaceful resolution, this seems to be the result of a single member of EO with a grudge despite restitution being offered it was declined and it seems to us atm he has gone out and put his whole alliance on the firing line by his actions, we still hope cooler heads will prevail if not the council will discuss further measures.

NEO still maintains previous light blue standings with EO pilots unless engaged first - they can then defend themselveshowever if attacked - as ive been instructed one lowly ranked pilots personal actions do not reflect those of his alliance at this time. Hopefully the matter will be dealt with as soon as possible



As you ssem to be miss-informed ill clarify.

I contacted both X1 and ceo, neither had much interest in speaking to me, let alone offering the small bit of restitution i asked for. I was offered nothing actually.

As far as my crop/ceo etc etc, you are free to attempt to pursue any means you deem avaiaiable to you. As i stated in the post linked it was a personal matter, and as such would remain such until such time as an acceptable resolution was offered. I'm confident however that calling my dad and telling me to quit it is not gonna have much effect, tho you are welcome to try.

If you are now serious about compensations, you are free to contact me any time, tho I must confess the stakes are now higher as I have incurred additional expense, and will continue to do so, until the matter is resolved.....its only gonna get worse as time goes by.


Do as you wish,

Kaaii

ollobrains
Gallente
5th Front enterprises
Chain of Chaos
Posted - 2007.09.05 15:25:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Kaaii
Edited by: Kaaii on 05/09/2007 14:10:06
Originally by: ollobrains
Originally by: Jin Steele
wait, who the **** gave ollobrains control of an alliance?


My creation, im now on the council of CEOs im no longer alliance head but 1 of 3 diplomats and also one of the alliance FCs. We still seek a peaceful resolution, this seems to be the result of a single member of EO with a grudge despite restitution being offered it was declined and it seems to us atm he has gone out and put his whole alliance on the firing line by his actions, we still hope cooler heads will prevail if not the council will discuss further measures.

NEO still maintains previous light blue standings with EO pilots unless engaged first - they can then defend themselveshowever if attacked - as ive been instructed one lowly ranked pilots personal actions do not reflect those of his alliance at this time. Hopefully the matter will be dealt with as soon as possible



As you ssem to be miss-informed ill clarify.

I contacted both X1 and ceo, neither had much interest in speaking to me, let alone offering the small bit of restitution i asked for. I was offered nothing actually.

As far as my crop/ceo etc etc, you are free to attempt to pursue any means you deem avaiaiable to you. As i stated in the post linked it was a personal matter, and as such would remain such until such time as an acceptable resolution was offered. I'm confident however that calling my dad and telling me to quit it is not gonna have much effect, tho you are welcome to try.

If you are now serious about compensations, you are free to contact me any time, tho I must confess the stakes are now higher as I have incurred additional expense, and will continue to do so, until the matter is resolved.....its only gonna get worse as time goes by.


Do as you wish,

Kaaii



clearly this occoured from the dates i have before u joined EO and as such simply expelling u from corp to bring it into disrepute by pursuing a personal agenda over being a team player within youre new corp and alliance, u have attacked a friendly party to EO , that is quite serious. Now if they are any real corp with honour like we would do they would be booted immediatley for acts of piracy. Which is essentially what this is, restitution was in fact offered, however arunna only plays weekends and may take more than 24 hours to respond to mails, thats why diplomats such as myself are listed.

Now i know u didnt get a response straight away so u do what all addicted players do and lack patience. U then join EO and bring them into youre "personal" disputes. I think u should join the NPC corp for the duration of hiring services and persure youre merc hiring from there, u wouldnt bring any other unrelated parties into this - u are free until a solution is possibly reached to raise the stakes, tho that is simply youre own personal choice

so youre free to leave EO, take youre issues back to the NPC corp where u can persue whatever solution u wish. EO wont be dragged into multiple wars and yet more pressure. and we can let arunna sort these issues out when he is "online" best time to contact him is weekends not during teh week. And maybe like an adult learn some patience.

ollobrains
Gallente
5th Front enterprises
Chain of Chaos
Posted - 2007.09.05 15:29:00 - [24]
 

Ill also reinterate that NEO has never given into escalating extoration demands cause someone with a elevated sense of self has kicked and screamed, just because u lacked patience.

I consider fair compensation was offered at the time of response ( which was within a 5-9 day period) which for someone with a real life like arunna is acceptible due to u not understanding the contract systems properly before u placed a contract.

Ah well youre call i guess.

Kaaii
Caldari
Kaaii-Net Research Labs
KAAII-NET
Posted - 2007.09.05 16:35:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: ollobrains


Now if they are any real corp with honour like we would do they would be booted immediatley for acts of piracy.




Oh you booted X1? oh...wait


Originally by: ollobrains

Ill also reiterate that NEO has never given into escalating extortion demands cause someone with a elevated sense of self has kicked and screamed, just because u lacked patience.



Apparently we have different definitions of patience. Mine runs thin after being closed out of on convos, weeks after the event takes place. Its escalation was due to the lack of positive response. I'm sorry your ceo doesn't have time to address in game issues that pop up in a timely matter. Maybe you need a new ceo too. Or one that is appointed to handle such matters in his stead.

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I liken it to a kid in the candy store (X1). He sees the shop keeper mark the price a piece of gum low, so he buys it, puts it in his pocket. He knows it cost way too little, but he thinks its ok because he thinks the shop keeper didn't notice. And walks away. He knows it was wrong, the shop keeper made a mistake. Now he could have said to the shop keeper, hey you made a mistake, but he chose to keep it, after allit was shop keeper who made the mistake.
But later the shop keeper does notice, tries to get the kid to do the "right thing", but kid runs away.
So the shop keeper, decides to walk out into the alley and hire a few ppl to teach him a lesson. They aren't there to beat up all his friends, or friends of friends. But the kid now hides behind the friends of friends, "Look out, here comes the mean shop keeper, help me!".

Its all about choices really. I gave him the choice to help me out, with my error, gain some respect, karma, maybe even a new friend. But he chose not to.

EVE lets people make amends in that situation, and this is what ive done.
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NEO being light blue to EO. Hmmm I guess thats good, everyone can use more friends. As a new member, I can appreciate your attempt to drive a wedge between my status as such, and EO's leadership, to avoid me taking out retribution on a member of your alliance. I would try it too. If EO leadership is unhappy with me, im sure ill hear about it. They are very good..... At everything they do....If you want to threaten EO with status changes and war, I know I'll prolly hear about it. Maybe you all will declare war over this, add yet another foe to your list of foes, or maybe I might even get booted, for my efforts to reclaim lost property ....

As I see it, You can:
1) Pay me 314mil(RI contract plus material lost) , Boot X1, 50m to repro for their war dec fee. I'll tell them contract fulfilled, and have them retract.
2) Contact EO leadership, threaten them(standings change/war dec or soemthing equally stupid), ask me to be booted, whatever you feel is necessary.

Choice 1 ends the matter
Choice 2 gains you months and months of war targets, for your pew pew delight.

Again, choices...Lets both hope you make the right call...










Arunna
Gallente
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Southern Cross Alliance
Posted - 2007.09.05 19:50:00 - [26]
 

I replied to the message you sent me at "2007.08.26 12:13" (3rd message) offering you half the isk back. You did not respond to this.

Milena Rage
Caldari
The Aftermath
Posted - 2007.09.05 20:06:00 - [27]
 

gogo Kaaii!

Sunabi
Caldari
Shade.
Penumbra Alliance
Posted - 2007.09.05 20:18:00 - [28]
 

Wow, a drama thread about people I know for once Very Happy

Aside from the forum warfare, good luck in the fight, NEO!

Veng3ance
Amarr
Multiversal Enterprise Inc.
Cry Havoc.
Posted - 2007.09.05 20:24:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: ollobrains
Edited by: ollobrains on 05/09/2007 10:27:30
War declared fighting can begin in 24 hours. NEO pilots please keep it civil, smackfree and lets nail us some targets , if repo feels like giving us some explanation feel free if not thats also fine, see u in 21 odd hours :)

YARRRR!!


O noes its ollobrains! Shocked

Repo is gonna own you. Laughing

ollobrains
Gallente
5th Front enterprises
Chain of Chaos
Posted - 2007.09.05 23:47:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Sunabi
Wow, a drama thread about people I know for once Very Happy

Aside from the forum warfare, good luck in the fight, NEO!


/me waves to bruce dude lol yeah should be interesting


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