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Privateer Stern
Minmatar
Posted - 2007.09.03 10:41:00 - [1]
 

I only have so much time to play each day, some days maybe more than others... I am going to fail a level 2 mission and lose standing with NPC corp because I won't get it finished before it expires. This is NOT basically because of my limited game play time, but it IS because it is a level 2 mission and NPC's just won't die. I sit there firing fast tracking guns and fast missles at a ship and can't even get shields to drop at all. I don't really care if this ship/gun can't fight that ship/gun... this tracking no good for frigate, that missile no good for cruiser... I want to finish the mission before I lose standing with corp. I am not going to spend most of my precious time in the game trying to find someone else to help me play a level 2 mission, I shouldn't have to, but none the less, I won't finish it and I will lose standing with corp.

Funny that I never fail to find some reason for leaving the game again, always to return and find more reasons later...

Contralto
Rift Tech
Posted - 2007.09.03 10:59:00 - [2]
 

Wow and I thought I was a loner hehe! got to be a "wind up" no one is that anti social! Shocked

Can't send you to WOW that would be even worse, best go back to single player games.

I wish you luck in your Eve career if you choose to stay. and survive the flames you are about to recieve here!

Carniflex
StarHunt
Fallout Project
Posted - 2007.09.03 11:24:00 - [3]
 

Try Caracal if you can fly one

5x assault missile launcher (those light ones)
2x large shield extender 2x ..3x hardeners 1x .. 0x sensor booster
2x BCU

Depending on your fitting skills. You should be able to do all lev 2 missions in less than 15 minutes (except hauling ones). In some missions (if you have below average caldary cruiser and missile skills) you might lack some range. In this case switch to regular heavy missiles for that mission (they fly around 70 km on caracal what should be enough for all lev 2 missions). Sensor booster is not needed actually, it's just that npc frigates die so fast it makes locking next one faster.

Contralto
Rift Tech
Posted - 2007.09.03 11:35:00 - [4]
 

Nice reply Carni' you went for a positive approach, I was sidetracked by the Sig Very Happy

Mikal Drey
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2007.09.03 11:47:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Contralto
Nice reply Carni' you went for a positive approach, I was sidetracked by the Sig Very Happy


i WAS gonna post something constructive like . . . .

1) ask a corp mate to help
2) use a Web
3) take a bigger ship
4) skill better
5) try smartbombs but use them carefully
6) AB out to range and then tracking becomes less of an issue
7) use a smaller gun (ive tried L2's with a claymore and it failed)
8) drones
9) Target Painter
10) Learn from the experience and accept the loss as its part of eve and you will recover anyway.

However, i was sidetracked by ignorance

Not Bait
Posted - 2007.09.03 15:54:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Privateer Stern
I don't really care if this ship/gun can't fight that ship/gun... this tracking no good for frigate, that missile no good for cruiser... I want to finish the mission before I lose standing with corp.


Maybe it's time to start caring about some very basic game concepts.

etgfrogs
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2007.09.03 17:47:00 - [7]
 

if your having problems with small frigates going too fast then use a stasis webifier, they work wonders since it will drop thier speed by quite a bit, then you can use larger turrets to kill them.

Privateer Stern
Minmatar
Posted - 2007.09.03 21:16:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Privateer Stern on 03/09/2007 21:28:23
Originally by: Carniflex
Try Caracal if you can fly one

5x assault missile launcher (those light ones)
2x large shield extender 2x ..3x hardeners 1x .. 0x sensor booster
2x BCU

Depending on your fitting skills. You should be able to do all lev 2 missions in less than 15 minutes (except hauling ones). In some missions (if you have below average caldary cruiser and missile skills) you might lack some range. In this case switch to regular heavy missiles for that mission (they fly around 70 km on caracal what should be enough for all lev 2 missions). Sensor booster is not needed actually, it's just that npc frigates die so fast it makes locking next one faster.


Thanks Carniflex, that helps. I'm out of character now, but... please ignore the attitude associated with my character. It is just a ROLE I play in the game. I have found it easy to do such because I get upset easy with things not going my way, but it is just the ROLE of the character. It just sometimes comes out in the player because I've been that way so long. I have decided to stick with it, just to be different... the loner, the one that because of bad things happening to him and everyone else around him, he trusts no one, works alone... Kinda like the game Privateer, Privateer 2 more. No worries, all. And thanks.

EDIT: Ya, I know, even in Privateer 2 he hired mercs/ships to help on some missions, heheh.

Privateer Stern
Minmatar
Posted - 2007.09.03 21:17:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Privateer Stern on 03/09/2007 21:25:30
Originally by: etgfrogs
if your having problems with small frigates going too fast then use a stasis webifier, they work wonders since it will drop thier speed by quite a bit, then you can use larger turrets to kill them.


That's something I just never thought about either, thanks.

EDIT: BTW, I changed the signature to look more like the CHARACTER and not the PLAYER, heheh. I have actually been here since well into BETA, but have left and returned so much, I miss a lot.

Mikal Drey
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2007.09.03 22:18:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Privateer Stern
Edited by: Privateer Stern on 03/09/2007 21:25:30
Originally by: etgfrogs
if your having problems with small frigates going too fast then use a stasis webifier, they work wonders since it will drop thier speed by quite a bit, then you can use larger turrets to kill them.


That's something I just never thought about either, thanks.


Not that i mentioned webs as point #2

And if you've been playing since beta then you should already know about webs as its pretty much a day 1 lesson.

Id say something witty like post with your main. but try to post with a nice guy character. Missions forum is normally filled with people who what help or want to help others.


Malusonius
Posted - 2007.09.03 22:46:00 - [11]
 

My first thought was, since you have fast tracking guns and fast missiles as you claim, that you must have been up against an elite frig/cruiser (i.e. a Dire Pithi/Elder Corpii/whatever). I think those are first introduced in level 2's. Basically an elite frigate/cruiser has substantially higher resistances than their normal counterparts and thus take a lot more firepower to take down (especially considering NPC shield/armor boosting).

Whether it was an elite ship or not (I'm going to assume it was and that you've completed L2's before), the only thing I can really suggest is upping your firepower, whether you get better mods or you train relevant skills or you get a buddy to come help you out.

Best of luck to you and get used to seeing them (and popping them), especially when you start running L3's and 4's.

Privateer Stern
Minmatar
Posted - 2007.09.04 00:41:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Privateer Stern on 04/09/2007 00:42:30
Originally by: Mikal Drey


Not that i mentioned webs as point #2

And if you've been playing since beta then you should already know about webs as its pretty much a day 1 lesson.

Id say something witty like post with your main. but try to post with a nice guy character. Missions forum is normally filled with people who what help or want to help others.



Ya, I knew of them, but as I said, I come and go a LOT from this game, just forgot about them, as I forget about a lot of things after being away for a few months before returning again. And my main is dorment, this is my main now, so I post with him just because it's who any/all are going to associate with in game anymore anyway. So, ya I knew of them, just forgot about them. Then there is just the changes I always keep missing and have to get used to every time I am away for awhile. Ya, been here a long time, just not long at each time, heheh.

And ya, this particular one was an elite frigate. My 'character' getting upset about it just leaked into the 'player' a bit when I posted, heheh, sorry.

EDIT: Oh, that's another thing, I have missed a LOT of skill training from being away so much. I could have been a lot farther...

Privateer Stern
Minmatar
Posted - 2007.09.04 05:57:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Privateer Stern on 04/09/2007 05:57:54
Update to Situation...

Well, that same mission I was on (with multiple levels) I had cleared the first two levels. I go back today and the first level NPC's respawned so I had to start over from the beginning. I don't think so, I went to agent and cancelled it, losing 0.7 standing with agent. I get another mission and as soon as I enter the area, over 20 rats had my shields gone and armor to half with the first round of missiles that they seem to fire every 2 or 3 seconds non-stop.

I remember a time when I could complete a level 2 mission on my own. Even other (unnamed) popular MMORG's have missions designed for those playing solo. This game absolutely must be played with other people 100 percent of the time (missions and combat I mean) and there is nothing here for me. Too bad.

Toria Nynys
Minmatar
Posted - 2007.09.04 06:04:00 - [14]
 

Can I have your stuff?

As a fan of the massively singleplayer game genre I must say Eve offers quite a bit even to the lone wolf. I've been playing mostly solo on this character for going on 10 months, still feeling no pain.

Oh, and I too have about a mission's worth of time a day to play, if I'm lucky. It's still fun.

Guess it's just you.

Privateer Stern
Minmatar
Posted - 2007.09.04 06:14:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Toria Nynys
Can I have your stuff?


Uhhh, no. I will be back, every few months. Just came back to see what's going on and with missions on my mind this time, I am dissappointed that you need so many skills/abilities to complete a simple level 2 mission. I wonder what the newer player that wants to solo thinks, with only 1 or 2 million skill points... no, I'm not looking for a cakewalk, but it would be nice to finish a level 2 mission in one day, without coming back the next day to find everything respawned and have to start over again.

But yes, you are right, it's me. NPC's are allowed to cheat, with missile firing every 2 or 3 seconds, one cruiser was every second, with no reload delays. That's been like that for quite some time, I know, but it's not for me. I'll go mine or trade for a few days and maybe things will look up...

Toria Nynys
Minmatar
Posted - 2007.09.04 06:32:00 - [16]
 

Ok, I have no idea what to say. 1-2 million combat oriented SP is enough to walk all over level 3s, and start on some L4s.

I've done every L2 while on a trial account ending up at around 250,000SP at end of trial, and they haven't changed that much. A few new tougher ones have been added, but they're not outrageously more difficult than the previous missions if you pay any attention at all or use mission runner resources (like the kill mission survival database.)

Next time try to form your problem in the form of a question -- e.g., I'm doing mission named 'X' vs pirate faction 'Y', and I'm having 'Z' problem flying ship 'N' with fit 'M.' Then we can help you out with the proper fit and approach to solving the problem -- assuming all your 1-2M SP is not tied up in trade or mining.

Marcus Xavier
Minmatar
Xavier Institute for Higher Learning
Posted - 2007.09.04 11:28:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Privateer Stern
Edited by: Privateer Stern on 04/09/2007 05:57:54
Update to Situation...

... I get another mission and as soon as I enter the area, over 20 rats had my shields gone and armor to half with the first round of missiles that they seem to fire every 2 or 3 seconds non-stop.

I remember a time when I could complete a level 2 mission on my own. Even other (unnamed) popular MMORG's have missions designed for those playing solo. This game absolutely must be played with other people 100 percent of the time (missions and combat I mean) and there is nothing here for me. Too bad.



Was this "Recon", by any chance? If so, you only need to race to the gate, jump to the next room and wait for the mission message in local before returning to the agent. No need to engage the bandits.

If you provide the mission name and a little background on available equipment and skills, many folks would offer suggestions to help you complete it in a timely manner.

Privateer Stern
Minmatar
Posted - 2007.09.04 16:39:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Privateer Stern on 04/09/2007 16:42:10
Originally by: Marcus Xavier
Originally by: Privateer Stern
Edited by: Privateer Stern on 04/09/2007 05:57:54
Update to Situation...

... I get another mission and as soon as I enter the area, over 20 rats had my shields gone and armor to half with the first round of missiles that they seem to fire every 2 or 3 seconds non-stop.

I remember a time when I could complete a level 2 mission on my own. Even other (unnamed) popular MMORG's have missions designed for those playing solo. This game absolutely must be played with other people 100 percent of the time (missions and combat I mean) and there is nothing here for me. Too bad.



Was this "Recon", by any chance? If so, you only need to race to the gate, jump to the next room and wait for the mission message in local before returning to the agent. No need to engage the bandits.

If you provide the mission name and a little background on available equipment and skills, many folks would offer suggestions to help you complete it in a timely manner.


No, not a recon that I know of, I had to take out an escort for a freighter and then kill the freighter and return to agent with the prisoners on it. The escort almost killed me with a barage of missiles before I even had the first ship targeted. Literally, I had to warp out before I even finished the targeting cycle on the first ship. Not what I'm looking for, so I'll just skip missions for awhile, do something else and work on more training for now.

EDIT: Oh and being here as long as I have, but being away from the game on and off as long as I have, I do have on this (which at first was my secondary character) 11 mil. skill points, just in a wide area of expertise. This was the miner/refiner before I made him the primary. So, he needs a lot more combat oriented XP, too.

Privateer Stern
Minmatar
Posted - 2007.09.04 21:44:00 - [19]
 

Well, just to finish off this thread, I have played this character on and off since 2003. To refresh my interest and fun in the game, I have started a new character, a Gallente and their luxurious lifestyle. I'm tired of projectiles anyway and this will give me a fresh (re)start.

PS will still work the NPC commodity trade industry to support the new guy's extensive training, but this will let me start fresh with missions for Quafe, for example, a Gallente corporation. Just a decision for new interest and fun, so this thread no longer needed for the time being.

Thanks for all your help though, it will still be needed and useful in the near future with the new character.

Privateer Stern, signing off.

Contralto
Rift Tech
Posted - 2007.09.05 04:39:00 - [20]
 

Good luck with your new life and welcome to the Gallente empire. get those drone and hybrid skills up and you will enjoy youself much more than your present sad situation.

And you are my first contact with that rare breed, the "role player" you had me fooled with your first posts Very Happy


 

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