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GandolftheWhite
Gallente
CSETS
Blind Octopus
Posted - 2007.09.01 19:43:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: GandolftheWhite on 01/09/2007 20:28:46
The ability to dismiss drones in space without having to warp off.. Commonly with drone ships they are fit for speed and thier main dps is drones. This is particularly true for the ishtar, and curse, also sometimes on dominix, myrmidon and vexor. I say this because if a fight goes awry and your warp scrambled by another ship ie. a vagabond, you dont usually have time to call your ogres or whatever back to your ship before you have to get some range.

Now no time in this fight will you ever get them back unless your extremely lucky or freinds bail you out. So I propose we allow pilots to dismiss thier drones just as if they were warped out on, and incapacitated while flying. So that if you need to use your 30 or whatever back up drones available you can.

Thats my rant, I just think its silly that you can have all those drones but if you lose contact with them while on same grid and scrambled you cant bring out more, leaving your old drones incapacitated to be scooped by the enemy or you if your victorious in the encounter. discuss? BTW soloing in syndacite can be dangerous hehe. yarr

An Anarchyyt
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.09.01 19:45:00 - [2]
 

Something that needs to be added to your keyboard:

An Enter key.

Kazuma Saruwatari
Posted - 2007.09.01 19:46:00 - [3]
 

and also another thing needed:

an ability to even think about what you're suggesting.

There's a reason why CCP requires us to redock to move drones from cargo to the drone bay. Think about it.Rolling Eyes

Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
Posted - 2007.09.01 19:48:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: GandolftheWhite
The ability to dismiss drones in space without having to warp off.. Commonly with drone ships they are fit for speed and thier main dps is drones. This is particularly true for the ishtar, and curse, also sometimes on dominix, myrmidon and vexor. I say this because if a fight goes awry and your warp scrambled by another ship ie. a vagabond, you dont usually have time to call your ogres or whatever back to your ship before you have to get some range.

Now no time in this fight will you ever get them back unless your extremely lucky or freinds bail you out. So I propose we allow pilots to dismiss thier drones just as if they were warped out on, and incapacitated while flying. So that if you need to use your 30 or whatever back up drones available you can.

Thats my rant, I just think its silly that you can have all those drones but if you lose contact with them while on same grid and scrambled you cant bring out more, leaving your old drones incapacitated to be scooped by the enemy or you if your victorious in the encounter. discuss? BTW soloing in syndacite can be dangerous hehe. yarr


There you go, Anarchyyt. You could have helped and made the text readable instead of saying you need a carriage return key.

I like your idea.

An Anarchyyt
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.09.01 19:53:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
I like your idea.


Here is the big giant red flag about how bad your idea actually is.

Jim McGregor
Posted - 2007.09.01 19:55:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Jim McGregor on 01/09/2007 19:59:12

Originally by: An Anarchyyt
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
I like your idea.


Here is the big giant red flag about how bad your idea actually is.


Laughing

Forum Warfare - gotta love it. :)

Kaemonn is going to *click* this one, isnt he... ugh

Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
Posted - 2007.09.01 20:04:00 - [7]
 

I said I like the OP's idea. What is wrong with that? He has a point about abandoning current drones and launching new drones from drone bay.

Moraguth
Amarr
Paragon Fury
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2007.09.01 20:19:00 - [8]
 

/me wishes he could "abandon" his mega pulse lasers on his apoc and re-launch a small laser if a frig shows up. Or better yet, re-launch a remote armor repper to help a bud out. Man, that'd be sweet.

GandolftheWhite
Gallente
CSETS
Blind Octopus
Posted - 2007.09.01 20:28:00 - [9]
 

Yea that works chode smoke your lasers arent going to be left where you were if you mwd away. And your drones arent your only form of dps, or at least vast majority. GG tho, crap analogy tho. And if it makes that big of a deal about scooping drones and launching them as a logistical thing, i could warp off grid come back and scoop em? How does that change anything when were talkin about pvp? Id love a decent response as to why you would or wouldnt agree?

GandolftheWhite
Gallente
CSETS
Blind Octopus
Posted - 2007.09.01 20:31:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
and also another thing needed:

an ability to even think about what you're suggesting.

There's a reason why CCP requires us to redock to move drones from cargo to the drone bay. Think about it.Rolling Eyes

and what does this have to do about anything? Incapacitated drones dont work like that. If you didnt launch them in space in the first place you cant put them in your drone bay, only cargo hold as they are still repackaged. Do you play eve?

GandolftheWhite
Gallente
CSETS
Blind Octopus
Posted - 2007.09.01 20:47:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: An Anarchyyt
Something that needs to be added to your keyboard:

An Enter key.


Ive read alot of the last few posts youve had, and I am concerned about you.. A poster a few days ago asked, and I quote him,"show us on the doll where the bad man touched you"

Thommy
Posted - 2007.09.01 20:57:00 - [12]
 

Actually this is a good idea BUT the following things are makeing it problematic:
- Launching large drone(s) so an friend with an atleast 25m3 drone bay can now use large drones
- Lag creating by massive abandoning of drones

To avoid these problems the drones are not just "lost control" over but actually self destruct.
That way the problems with "loaning" someone else your drones or worse creating lag for others trough this way is non excisting.

Moraguth
Amarr
Paragon Fury
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2007.09.01 21:02:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: GandolftheWhite
Yea that works chode smoke your lasers arent going to be left where you were if you mwd away. And your drones arent your only form of dps, or at least vast majority. GG tho, crap analogy tho. And if it makes that big of a deal about scooping drones and launching them as a logistical thing, i could warp off grid come back and scoop em? How does that change anything when were talkin about pvp? Id love a decent response as to why you would or wouldnt agree?


hmmm... looking at the dominix info now. 6 high slots. 6 guns? maybe? that's how many I run on my apoc, with no damage bonus. The domi gets one.

I haven't run the numbers... but would a domi with 6 guns and using the cap neutralizing drones be good now that the nos change is in effect? who knows.

Anyway, sorry for the tangent, but I'll get to my point. Right now, Gallente and Minmatar ships are the best ships for PVP right now. even after the nos nerf. My amarr ships feel left out in the cold, so I have a hard time feeling sorry for you not being able to change which drones you want to use that easily.

GandolftheWhite
Gallente
CSETS
Blind Octopus
Posted - 2007.09.01 21:07:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: GandolftheWhite on 01/09/2007 21:09:05
Originally by: Thommy
Actually this is a good idea BUT the following things are makeing it problematic:
- Launching large drone(s) so an friend with an atleast 25m3 drone bay can now use large drones
- Lag creating by massive abandoning of drones

To avoid these problems the drones are not just "lost control" over but actually self destruct.
That way the problems with "loaning" someone else your drones or worse creating lag for others trough this way is non excisting.


keep in mind tho tommy this would only really affect in the middle of a pvp situation. Your probably not going to be sharing your drones with a buddy while your being shot at or chased. That method still works with conventional method of just warping off grid and back and he can scoop your drone.

Thats not a bad idea, and yes my old main before i suckered someone else into buying him on eve-0 was amarr so i feel your pain. Most drones can keep up with a nano nerfed domi so hes prolly the last one that this would affect. Also the grid on a dominix makes it so fitting more than a rack of medium blasters on it with a mediocre tank is a joke.

GandolftheWhite
Gallente
CSETS
Blind Octopus
Posted - 2007.09.02 05:40:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: GandolftheWhite on 02/09/2007 17:57:23
drunken posting for the lose on this one.

Antiochus Laetus
Gallente
Triton Research
Illuminati.
Posted - 2007.09.02 05:51:00 - [16]
 

at one point in time werent ppl allowed to use lots of drones, but do to camps with drones that lagged ppl to death before they could even respond, necessitate the need for change

I honestly cant remember where I may have read that, but that is what comes to mind after reading this post. I can understand the benefits, but wouldnt some unscrupulous pilots use this as a means to gain an unfair (lag death) advantage.

If someone already posted something like this, then my bad...I didnt read them all.

Lurtz
Caldari
Gunrunners and Gamblers
Posted - 2007.09.02 16:38:00 - [17]
 

exploitable as follows:

drone ship drops and dismisses 5 heavies.
gangmate with 25m3 proceeds to scoop to drone bay and launch each in turn.
drone ship launches new drones....

I realize people already do this sort of thing by dropping warping out and back, but why make it easier....


SiJira
Posted - 2007.09.02 20:51:00 - [18]
 

we need more drone user input

Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Clinical Experiment
Posted - 2007.09.02 20:54:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 02/09/2007 20:55:36
Well, since abandoning drones is basically like leaving them to the wolves, i'd say a "initiate self destruct" would be nice. Just like Thommy said.

With a warning box.

And another warning box.

And the self destruct button as far as possible Very Happy

techzer0
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2007.09.02 21:43:00 - [20]
 

Dismiss drones already works for me... I just ctrl + click... F1-F6 Very Happy


 

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