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Asif BADKARMA
Mentally Unstable Enterprises
Posted - 2007.09.19 18:52:00 - [61]
 

I signed up for this before the deadline but didnt get a mail :-(

little help ?

Mortiferus Stella
Posted - 2007.09.19 20:29:00 - [62]
 

I just got my new new MacBook Pro and I am very interested in becoming a beta tester.
This would save me from installing bootcamp and vista. I am also experienced computer user and software devloper (but only boring business applications), so I think I can help to hunt the bugs.

Xylle Blackstar
Gallente
Posted - 2007.09.19 22:06:00 - [63]
 

I would LOVE to test the Mac client if possible

I am an IT Expert and have done alot of Beta testing in the past.

Is it possible to get in on the testing? If not then you guys need to hurry case I am sick of dualbootin ;)

Jinx Barker
Caldari
GFB Scientific
Posted - 2007.09.20 00:31:00 - [64]
 

Originally by: Xylle Blackstar
.... you guys need to hurry case I am sick of dualbootin...


Tell me about it. The only reason why I have Bootcamp is because of EVE. Otherwise I would have kicked Microsoft OS to the kerb like a 3-pence-hooker after the sailors left town.

Thrawnfl
Posted - 2007.09.20 06:10:00 - [65]
 

I'd like to test this out, though I know I wont be using Cedega as its Subscription based.... no way in hell im gonna pay a subscription for a game service so i can play eve which im already paying a subscription for.

But im running on wine ok'ish right now but will never fight in it, I'll stick to windows for that.

Dronte
Minmatar
Quam Singulari
Posted - 2007.09.20 06:26:00 - [66]
 

Originally by: Thrawnfl
I'd like to test this out, though I know I wont be using Cedega as its Subscription based.... no way in hell im gonna pay a subscription for a game service so i can play eve which im already paying a subscription for.
If you had been reading up on the forums you would know that CCP has hired Transgaming to work for them, meaning they have already been paid. You are not gonna get or need a full version of Cedega, you get a specially Cedega wrapped EVE Client, running in a specially made Cedega version, which can ONLY run EVE and nothing else. Therefor you do NOT need to buy a subscription for Cedega or anything else than pay your EVE subscription.

This fact has been stressed more than once on the forums. CCP will *NEVER* force anyone to pay more than the EVE subscription to be able to play EVE with an official client.

solbright altaltaltalt
Posted - 2007.09.20 06:50:00 - [67]
 

I think he's a bit out of touch with regard to Wine's performance also.


CCP Lingorm


C C P
Posted - 2007.09.20 15:35:00 - [68]
 

Update.

Just got off the phone with Transgaming.

Some small issues with the MS-less build that we are taking care of.

You will not need to copy ant of the files over as transgaming provide their own implementations of them in the environment. We are just going through ans seeing what is needed and what is not needed to make sure that things are all good.

Sorry for the run around on this and I hope to have better news for you early next week.


Rells
Caldari
Fusillade.
Posted - 2007.09.20 16:08:00 - [69]
 

NP man. We are all eager to see it though. Smile

Man Enkai
Posted - 2007.09.20 21:15:00 - [70]
 

Just keep us all up to date with all of these things. Twisted Evil

Dwindlehop
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2007.09.21 18:09:00 - [71]
 

Thanks for the update, Lingorm.

Man Enkai
Posted - 2007.09.22 04:18:00 - [72]
 

CCP Lingorm, what about new graph engine (Trinity2) : Is fellows from Transgaming ready for it?

DahMainMan
Posted - 2007.09.22 16:42:00 - [73]
 

Edited by: DahMainMan on 25/09/2007 05:21:03
Edited by: DahMainMan on 22/09/2007 16:45:28
This may sound stupid, but i assume the actual reason its takin so long is transgameing. i bet thay are laggin on makin a actual instaler addon thingymajig. but by advice fellas. as far as this client. just get wine or buy a copy of cedega for 15 bucks. and give it a test. atleast at this point perhaps we could help out ccp hammer down a few problems even b4 we get this linux wrapper from cedega. trust me, this will take quite a while to finish. and it wil be buggy and crapy from the start. expect that from tansgaming. thay are quite small, i did not come here to bash them, but this is the way IT IS. we have a while to go till we can just run a file and get eve in linux. but its already damn near close to that.(Wine,Cedega)

so, just get eve goin in any way u can in linux, also my i advice one thing, there is a linux nvidia and ati driver installer called Envy, it will install the best drivers from ati-amd and nvidia, I get 45 more fps with a 7950 Gt. For once eve runs almost better in linux than xp, usin the 100.**. nvidia drivers. case in point, who ever said eve/wine/cedega is what is makin linux run at lower fps?

http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html

BACKUP yer darn xorg.conf file. im not gonna hold yer hand. but if i have too i will. but just goto that page, read up. download install. and update yer drivers. trust me, if all works out well. you will see liquid smooth fps. well, damn near anyhow. Hope This Helps.

Dmm Out.
Very HappyughShockedShocked

Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
Posted - 2007.09.22 22:46:00 - [74]
 

Edited by: Sevarus James on 22/09/2007 22:46:53
Originally by: Man Enkai
CCP Lingorm, what about new graph engine (Trinity2) : Is fellows from Transgaming ready for it?


This is a good question, but the answer is that most of the current FPS shooters using modern gfx ARE working. There are some known issues currently with shaders, but given that EVE's current engine is older than a lot of games that currently DO work via cedega using dx9c, I'd say we'll be fine when EVE's gfx get bumped up to that spec.

Phersephone
Caldari
Stormlord Battleforce
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2007.09.25 15:21:00 - [75]
 

Originally by: CCP Lingorm
Update.

Just got off the phone with Transgaming.

Some small issues with the MS-less build that we are taking care of.

You will not need to copy ant of the files over as transgaming provide their own implementations of them in the environment. We are just going through ans seeing what is needed and what is not needed to make sure that things are all good.

Sorry for the run around on this and I hope to have better news for you early next week.




its early next week :) is there any update on this? i'm buying a new IMac this weekend and would really like to run eve on it :)

cheers

Crimsonjade
Posted - 2007.09.26 17:45:00 - [76]
 

zomg missed the sign up for beta, but but pwwweaaase keep us Mac users informed. we await mmorp heaven.Very Happy

Jinx Barker
Caldari
GFB Scientific
Posted - 2007.09.27 09:19:00 - [77]
 

Any updates? It is Thursday, September 27th. Wink

Fredrick Engly
RaVal Thyokill Industies Inc.
Intergalactic Exports Group
Posted - 2007.09.27 12:18:00 - [78]
 

RHCE, MCSE, MAX Osx User..would love to get in on this beta at some stage :).. certainly add value to you guys :)

NETbreed
Gallente
Posted - 2007.09.27 15:54:00 - [79]
 

Okay, so I know I'm late to the party. I had a long hiatus from the game due to giving up my PC in favour of a MacBook Pro, and I'm only now getting back into EVE.

In the past week I've been suffering the pain of trying to play EVE using CrossOver Office and/or Parallels, with varying degrees of success. In light of said pain, I'd love the opportunity to test the EVE Mac OS X client, and as a software developer I should be able to give you useful feedback regarding bugs, etc.

CCP Lingorm


C C P
Posted - 2007.09.27 16:05:00 - [80]
 

Edited by: CCP Lingorm on 27/09/2007 16:13:53
*Fanfare*

Client builds are going through the final test at Transgaming. I will be downloading them overnight and tomorrow morning (all things going well).

I will be sending out an email to the Beta testers tomorrow with instructions on the program and access information to the test server that will be used.

The client itself will be available for download on Monday for you all to have at it.

We only have 2 small issues that are not show stoppers.

These are :

Crash on Quit on the Mac client (does not seem to corrupt any files so we are going ahead)
JPEG Scaling (some avatars are missing some decorations)

There you have it. We are going ahead and you should all be testing happily next week. I am still organizing extra forum access to record your findings.

We will also be running at least 2 patch tests during the Beta program so be aware that you will be required to patch the beta to test the patching system.

EDIT : We are already working with Transgaming on the new features coming in Trinity 2 and making sure that everything will be supported on the different clients.

We are also trying to plan some EVE on alternate platform stuff for Fanfest, but this has not been confirmed yet.


Capn Hack
Caldari
Posted - 2007.09.27 16:41:00 - [81]
 

yay! so glad to see things are moving again. :D

i do have a couple of tiny questions if you think you could answer them. will antialiasing work in the game? cider appears to have trouble with it and some games (c&c3 antialiasing settings do nothing) but, since boot camp is the only way to get it with osx, itd really be nice to have it. also, will windowed mode be supported by the testing phase? id rather run it in a window if i can (toggling the config file setting), but im thinking theres a tiny chance that might introduce some bug that wouldnt appear in fullscreen.

CCP Lingorm


C C P
Posted - 2007.09.27 16:49:00 - [82]
 

Windowed mode is disabled in the EVE client on Mac and Linux but the Transgaming wrapper has window control.

So you set the EVE Client to the Resolution you want than then resize the Window via the Transgaming tools.

I will find out about the Anti-aliasing.

Miusho
Silver Snake Enterprise
SMASH Alliance
Posted - 2007.09.27 19:59:00 - [83]
 

I want in! /cry

Phersephone
Caldari
Stormlord Battleforce
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2007.09.27 20:50:00 - [84]
 

nice... now please let a few more of us into the test !!!! please :)

Bob Niac
Gallente
freelancers inc
Imperial 0rder
Posted - 2007.09.27 23:27:00 - [85]
 

Originally by: CCP Lingorm
Windowed mode is disabled in the EVE client on Mac and Linux but the Transgaming wrapper has window control.

So you set the EVE Client to the Resolution you want than then resize the Window via the Transgaming tools.

I will find out about the Anti-aliasing.



Wait .. huh? Cider has no virtual desktop?

myfaith
A.N.A.R.C.H.I.C.A
Cult of War
Posted - 2007.09.28 08:59:00 - [86]
 

Guys don't joke... I could kill to have that client!! Twisted Evil

Aeon Jonas
Caldari
Point Blank.
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2007.09.28 09:32:00 - [87]
 

Please let more people in. Please! You would get sooooo much feedback it would be unreal. At least when its opened to more put it in the login announcement/news bit if you could so more people know and can get in. We don't all remember to check the forums :P.

CCP Lingorm


C C P
Posted - 2007.09.28 09:48:00 - [88]
 

I would love to let more people in but our test server will only handle a certain amount of load.

There will be an Open Beta following the Closed beta but the details of that are still being decided.

As an UPDATE I have the Mac installer.

Expecting the Linux installer later today.

Khanin Gher
Posted - 2007.09.28 10:45:00 - [89]
 

Edited by: Khanin Gher on 28/09/2007 10:46:40
Thx for the update Lingorm, very much appreciated. It doesn't even matter that much if i was late to get into the closed beta (although i would still like to get in), seeing the whole thing advance makes me happy.
Soon Windows will be a memory of the past.

EDIT: Corrected a typo

Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
Posted - 2007.09.28 11:36:00 - [90]
 

Edited by: Sevarus James on 28/09/2007 12:23:33
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
Windowed mode is disabled in the EVE client on Mac and Linux but the Transgaming wrapper has window control.

So you set the EVE Client to the Resolution you want than then resize the Window via the Transgaming tools.

I will find out about the Anti-aliasing.



If the 'wrapper' hold true to cedega standards, then anti-aliasing will, or should be available in conjunction with the features specific to ati /nvidia's drivers (for linux).

That said, I never use it with the current client as while there is some "smoothing", the frame rate hit is just not worth it, and as well, the client without looks very good regardless.

It would be nice to see if this is improved over current cedega capabilities, but I'd rather have the fps personally.

That all said, I anxiously await the beginning of the testing. Thanks for the heads up Lingorm!


-further edit due to lack of sleep.

I tested 6.03 and nvidia 100.14.19 drivers, using the nvidia settings to override settings. there is no difference apparent so I must take it back. apparently the only thing that cedega is providing with its current settings is anistropic filtering. --client looks good regardless, imho, and fps is good.



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