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GeekWarrior
Posted - 2007.11.03 19:53:00 - [211]
 

Is the EVE-MEEP website down for anyone else?

Salvis Tallan
Gallente
Sparse Enterprises
Posted - 2007.11.03 21:05:00 - [212]
 

Originally by: GeekWarrior
Is the EVE-MEEP website down for anyone else?

Apparently I am having some website issues, and I am looking into getting it fixed... I hope it wont be down for too long.

Cardnyl Sin
Gallente
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
Posted - 2007.11.05 00:13:00 - [213]
 

If I buy goods with one character but sell them with a completely different character on a different account, and have both toons set up to be managed by Eve meep is there some way I can link 2 specific characters together to see how much net profits I am making?

I suppose this question sorta falls into the same category as my request to see monthly and weekly revenues within the finances section.

lpha centurion
Confrerie des ombres
Sylph Alliance
Posted - 2007.11.05 17:05:00 - [214]
 

Edited by: lpha centurion on 05/11/2007 17:04:49
The site is still unavailable, can you give me some downloads links (or a mirror website), I just want to try this tool Wink

Salvis Tallan
Gallente
Sparse Enterprises
Posted - 2007.11.05 18:47:00 - [215]
 

Edited by: Salvis Tallan on 05/11/2007 21:57:18
Originally by: lpha centurion
Edited by: lpha centurion on 05/11/2007 17:04:49
The site is still unavailable, can you give me some downloads links (or a mirror website), I just want to try this tool Wink

On the first post in this thread there is a link to the zip hosted on eve-files. But eve-files is down. You wouldn't be able to upgrade/download plugins until the website is back, so I am not sure how useful it would be. I am hoping the site will be back soon(tm) at which point all will be well.

*EDIT* Website back up!

Dr Xorn
Posted - 2007.11.06 01:25:00 - [216]
 

Edited by: Dr Xorn on 06/11/2007 06:00:44

Your link goes to 2.3.2.0. You might want to update it to current version.

I was able to install the 2.3.2.0 and updated fine, but the link should be updated anyways.

Thanks for your continued great work.

Orion Shurtak
Amarr
Mission Runners United
Overtime Alliance
Posted - 2007.11.06 10:50:00 - [217]
 

Thanks for a great program!

I have just downloaded and installed the latest version and I'm getting the following error on one of my characters:

Expected BeforRefID[xxxxx] but supplied [0]:Wallet previously loaded.

It only did it on one character, but worked fine for the other.
I checked the log file and didn't see anything indicating an error. Of course it was all greek to me Confused

Paranoic San
PROFTECH
Posted - 2007.11.06 10:59:00 - [218]
 

Edited by: Paranoic San on 06/11/2007 11:06:37
Great soft! Thanks for doing it and keeping it up to date.

I have few questions:

1. Is it possible to create research/production job from scratch and set start-end date-time for it manually? I started few jobs before installing your program and want to add them to the schedule.

2. What does inventory mean? Is it my assets? If yes then does EVEMeep scan items inside station conts?

3. There is a Buy section in multiComponent calc where prices for the minerals are displaying. Is it possible to fill those values for SELL prices? I mean if I have minerals then I can sell them or build something from them. And how to calculate the profit in this situation?

4. How does price editor work? When I choose the item and the region and then click import - only Mean price displays. All other fields remain empty. Is it possible to fill them automatically?

Thanks!

Gearbox Whizbang
Dark Intentions Fullfilled
Posted - 2007.11.06 12:36:00 - [219]
 

Good day.. Extended Downtime = do other stuff (inventory, corp accounting, etc.). This leads me to ask a few questions that I have wondered about Meep as I look through the prog and have read the thread and faqs now.

1.) Probably something you are aware of but the various plugin dll's are not downloading (specifically POS Fuel, Multicomponent, Invention, Reprocessing, and Efficiency). I have looked in the User folder root (I'm using Vista) as well as the AppData folders (where it's seemed to want to put other program updates and programatically added files). The log says they aren't there. The website agrees that they aren't there.

2.) Most of my jobs use the corp hangers for materials/bp(o/c)s/tools. Is there currently a plan to retrieve that data embedded in the corp wallets/hangers/S&T/etc? I am assuming it has to wait for the API but a confirmation would be good that you'd entended to take into account the corp assets.

3.) can I use the tools (once they download, that is) by entering the data manually or will it simply reset the next time that the program attempts to update from the (as you unenabled) API?

Thanks for a great program. I've used the older versions for awhile but this generation has given me fits and I'm on a new machine build and would prefer to avoid the multiple version method I used before.


Salvis Tallan
Gallente
Sparse Enterprises
Posted - 2007.11.06 15:16:00 - [220]
 

Originally by: Paranoic San
Edited by: Paranoic San on 06/11/2007 11:06:37
Great soft! Thanks for doing it and keeping it up to date.

I have few questions:

1. Is it possible to create research/production job from scratch and set start-end date-time for it manually? I started few jobs before installing your program and want to add them to the schedule.

2. What does inventory mean? Is it my assets? If yes then does EVEMeep scan items inside station conts?

3. There is a Buy section in multiComponent calc where prices for the minerals are displaying. Is it possible to fill those values for SELL prices? I mean if I have minerals then I can sell them or build something from them. And how to calculate the profit in this situation?

4. How does price editor work? When I choose the item and the region and then click import - only Mean price displays. All other fields remain empty. Is it possible to fill them automatically?

1. Yes this is possible. If you want to set up a production job, use the Multicomponent calc to set up the job. Select the bp, set the ME, PE, etc. Then click Add Job. From there you can manually select a start time, OR an end time for the job, at which point the program will put the job on the planner spanning the correct amount of time. You do the same thing for research jobs but use the efficiency calculator.
2.Inventory in indeed assets. Right now the only data Meep can automatically get is what you have bought on the market, so it will be inaccurate. Basically if you purchased 50,000 tritanium in the last week, Meep will know, but if you have owned a hulk for a few months it wont. This will change after the trinity path (I think thats what they are calling it now) when the assets API goes online. This will let the program get a full listing of all your assets automatically.
3.The old tech 1 calc used to be able to, but that option never made it over to the multicomponent. I will put it on my todo and see what I can come up with.
4.Importing grabs the price from eve-central, and unfortunately they only provide that one price. You can use market logs to get the rest of the numbers automatically.

Salvis Tallan
Gallente
Sparse Enterprises
Posted - 2007.11.06 15:31:00 - [221]
 

Originally by: Gearbox Whizbang
Good day.. Extended Downtime = do other stuff (inventory, corp accounting, etc.). This leads me to ask a few questions that I have wondered about Meep as I look through the prog and have read the thread and faqs now.

1.) Probably something you are aware of but the various plugin dll's are not downloading (specifically POS Fuel, Multicomponent, Invention, Reprocessing, and Efficiency). I have looked in the User folder root (I'm using Vista) as well as the AppData folders (where it's seemed to want to put other program updates and programatically added files). The log says they aren't there. The website agrees that they aren't there.

2.) Most of my jobs use the corp hangers for materials/bp(o/c)s/tools. Is there currently a plan to retrieve that data embedded in the corp wallets/hangers/S&T/etc? I am assuming it has to wait for the API but a confirmation would be good that you'd entended to take into account the corp assets.

3.) can I use the tools (once they download, that is) by entering the data manually or will it simply reset the next time that the program attempts to update from the (as you unenabled) API?

Thanks for a great program. I've used the older versions for awhile but this generation has given me fits and I'm on a new machine build and would prefer to avoid the multiple version method I used before.


1.Bah, if you have tried in the last day, its because I forgot to put them back when I fixed my site. Sorry about that, I am fixing them now. Thank you for pointing this out!

2.When the assets API goes online and you have access I will probably add an option to see corp assets. This makes sense for those of us who use corp bpos and such. Right now there is not much in the way of corp support only because I have not planned it out yet.

3.Nothing you manually update, except skills, will reset when you reload the app. Skills will revert back to your characters levels.

Paranoic San
PROFTECH
Posted - 2007.11.06 21:06:00 - [222]
 

Originally by: Salvis Tallan

2.Inventory in indeed assets. Right now the only data Meep can automatically get is what you have bought on the market, so it will be inaccurate. Basically if you purchased 50,000 tritanium in the last week, Meep will know, but if you have owned a hulk for a few months it wont. This will change after the trinity path (I think thats what they are calling it now) when the assets API goes online. This will let the program get a full listing of all your assets automatically.
3.The old tech 1 calc used to be able to, but that option never made it over to the multicomponent. I will put it on my todo and see what I can come up with.


Thanks for quick reply.

I hope you will do more a lot of nice functionality in your program. Will be waiting.

Goodluck in your work.

Gearbox Whizbang
Dark Intentions Fullfilled
Posted - 2007.11.06 23:29:00 - [223]
 

Originally by: Salvis Tallan
Originally by: Gearbox Whizbang

...various plugin dll's are not downloading

...intended to take into account the corp assets.



1. (*snipped for bevity*)
2.When the assets API goes online and you have access I will probably add an option to see corp assets. This makes sense for those of us who use corp bpos and such. Right now there is not much in the way of corp support only because I have not planned it out yet.



Thank you for your promptness. Kudos to you for your strong community support. I'd say it's this as much as the content of the program itself that has made Meep such a success. It's enlightening to have a response (!) on the topic (!) quickly (!)..

As for the updated dll's all but the invention one now download. Looking forward to that one arriving soon as well.

As to the corp concept, when you explore it, what I'd like to see is something like the corp blueprints area of s&t, where the important thing on first view is the prints and location info is something you drill into to work out specific logistical issues with getting that item built.

In our corp, a completely industrial experience, there is next to nothing that I consider that is stored in personal hangers. Everything from prints to minerals is stored in corp hangers in various places based on location of the office, original or copy, functional security issues, need for research and so on. What this ends up leading to (once there is more than a single entity using the resources) is overstocks and understocks and jointly edited spreadsheets (a nightmare I'm sure you can't fail to appreciate the irritation of when working at removes geographically and in time but with common goals and tasks)

That is what I'm hoping for Meep to solve.

I'll keep my fingers crossed. Best wishes to you.

Gearbox

Paranoic San
PROFTECH
Posted - 2007.11.07 07:06:00 - [224]
 

Edited by: Paranoic San on 07/11/2007 07:34:07
Ok, then next question.

I'm trying to sort out all my inventory in Meep. How do I remove items from inventory? I've decreased amount of some items but they are still shown in the inventory tab.

Any ideas - thanks!

Updated. Was trying to install research job in schedule like you said. One job installed successfully but another one did not. I choose POS mobile laboratory, selecting End Time (its the same like in first job) but Meep says 'Time unavailable'. What am I doing wrong?

Salvis Tallan
Gallente
Sparse Enterprises
Posted - 2007.11.07 21:00:00 - [225]
 

Originally by: Paranoic San
Edited by: Paranoic San on 07/11/2007 07:34:07
Ok, then next question.

I'm trying to sort out all my inventory in Meep. How do I remove items from inventory? I've decreased amount of some items but they are still shown in the inventory tab.

Any ideas - thanks!

Updated. Was trying to install research job in schedule like you said. One job installed successfully but another one did not. I choose POS mobile laboratory, selecting End Time (its the same like in first job) but Meep says 'Time unavailable'. What am I doing wrong?

You cannot remove their entry from the browse window, but to remove the instance from the list of items, just select and click remove. Time unavailable means that there is a conflict with the slot you choose for the time period needed. Just type a new slot name, such as POS Large Array would be POS Large Array 1, 2, etc.

Paranoic San
PROFTECH
Posted - 2007.11.07 21:57:00 - [226]
 

Originally by: Salvis Tallan

You cannot remove their entry from the browse window, but to remove the instance from the list of items, just select and click remove. Time unavailable means that there is a conflict with the slot you choose for the time period needed. Just type a new slot name, such as POS Large Array would be POS Large Array 1, 2, etc.


Lol, its really simple. Thanks for reply!

Apul MadeekAoud
M. Corp Engineering
M. PIRE
Posted - 2007.11.08 15:31:00 - [227]
 

I have done the latest updates and im still getting the "Expected BeforRefID[xxxxx] but supplied [0]" when trying to get journal entries. What should I be doing differently?

Salvis Tallan
Gallente
Sparse Enterprises
Posted - 2007.11.08 15:58:00 - [228]
 

Originally by: Apul MadeekAoud
I have done the latest updates and im still getting the "Expected BeforRefID[xxxxx] but supplied [0]" when trying to get journal entries. What should I be doing differently?

If you have tried waiting over an hour, then letting the app sit for 3 minutes and still get the error, I have no idea what is wrong. I will be going over the code line by line when I next have time and maybe something will turn up.

Also apparently I forgot to put the invention plugin on the website, hence why it could not be downloaded. This has been fixed.

Hadjima Mitsurugi
Angel Arms
Posted - 2007.11.08 20:14:00 - [229]
 

Really like the program, extremely useful!
Just one thing I've noticed; when doing multiples on a manufacturing job, the numbers do not always match the requirements listed in the job creation tab ingame.
It's not massive amounts, usually only 1 or 2 units - which makes me think it's a rounding error?
Or rather, rounding the amounts per unit than for the whole job?

Not exactly a massive error, but just thought you should know!

Looking forward to how EVEMEEP progresses. Very Happy

Paranoic San
PROFTECH
Posted - 2007.11.09 11:59:00 - [230]
 

Edited by: Paranoic San on 09/11/2007 23:23:42
Edited by: Paranoic San on 09/11/2007 12:13:36
Edited by: Paranoic San on 09/11/2007 12:00:12

Ok, more to go:

Efficiency calc and schedule.

When I press "Add research job" from that efficiency calc new window is shown for selecting place and start-end time:

- when you select previous entered location from "Location" dropdown list "Type of location " dropdown list become disabled and "NPC station" is chosen. There is no possibility to change it for "POS"
- the duration parameter on this window (Add new job) is different from time shown on the efficiency calc tab itself.

From the last thing - schedule is showing wrong period for research job.

But I dont know is this a bug or I'm doing wrong things. Anyway hope that will help to improve your app.

Added. How can I setup PE job? And what about the bug with disappearing of earlier installed job when you've installed new one? Is there any limit of the jobs installed atm in the schedule?

Thanks!

Pecunya
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2007.11.11 16:53:00 - [231]
 

Edited by: Pecunya on 11/11/2007 16:58:16
Just started using MEEP, looks promising. Guess I don't have to write my own version now, so more playing and less coding.

I am still on my trial account, haven't looked at Invention or Manufacturing yet. Just dabbling a bit in Trade.

I am of course eyeing my wallet and journal all the time and want to compare previous sells with current prices. The MEEP wallet has a filter to zoom in on certain sells, but I cannot get the LIKE operator to work. The '=' operator works but you have to type in a complete name, which a pain in the neck. I tried '*', '%' and '?' wildcards, tried regular expressions, but nothings works. And I don't get any feedback either, it is as if the AddFilter_OnClick is ignoring it completely.
So how does it work?

And a feature request while I am at it: can you save the grid settings (column order, column sort, ...) so you don't have to rearrange a grid each time MEEP is loaded?

S tropper
Posted - 2007.11.12 12:09:00 - [232]
 

I still got problems to load the POS calc (no succes at all). When I try to update it I got the following message:

************** Exception Text **************
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at EVEMEEPv2.Changelog.updatesDownloadCompleted(Object sender, DownloadDataCompletedEventArgs e)
at System.Net.WebClient.OnDownloadDataCompleted(DownloadDataCompletedEventArgs e)
at System.Net.WebClient.DownloadDataOperationCompleted(Object arg)


Dont know if it helps.

And by some reason I cant add raven blueprint to my inventory :(

Thx for a great program

tornpain
Precision Collision
ISK Six
Posted - 2007.11.12 16:49:00 - [233]
 

Originally by: Salvis Tallan
Originally by: Apul MadeekAoud
I have done the latest updates and im still getting the "Expected BeforRefID[xxxxx] but supplied [0]" when trying to get journal entries. What should I be doing differently?

If you have tried waiting over an hour, then letting the app sit for 3 minutes and still get the error, I have no idea what is wrong. I will be going over the code line by line when I next have time and maybe something will turn up.


I had this same problem when I was manually hitting the API. I thought it was because I wasn't reusing my connection (since I was just in IE or firefox, I forget) but I didn't have time to mock up a proper test. It appeared as though the API was completely ignoring the value I passed for beforeRefID.

As far as feature requests go, would it be possible to amend the Reprocessing Calculator to actually allow for a reprocess of modules that are recorded in inventory?

Dant Kramble
Posted - 2007.11.12 22:45:00 - [234]
 

Okay, weirdest problem:

Don't know if it is just on my end, but its with the reprocessing calculator. New install on new computer (version 2.3.3.0)

The updating is lazy when I change items, so "total price" column often includes totals from previous items.

Currently on my screen, it says "Medium Shield Boosters" have a total Sell price on the Minerals section of roughly 115,000 isk, largely due to the 102,000 worth of zydrine in it. The materials column lists 0 zydrine, but something that had 52 zydrine in it is still making a contribution to the calculation. If its a "just me" problem, no big deal, but wanted you to be aware.

It took me forever to figure out how I lost 20m grinding up missle launchers, lol.




Feng Schui
Minmatar
Cruor Evertum Dominicus
Posted - 2007.11.12 23:58:00 - [235]
 

Edited by: Feng Schui on 13/11/2007 00:27:55
Originally by: Salvis Tallan
Originally by: Apul MadeekAoud
I have done the latest updates and im still getting the "Expected BeforRefID[xxxxx] but supplied [0]" when trying to get journal entries. What should I be doing differently?

If you have tried waiting over an hour, then letting the app sit for 3 minutes and still get the error, I have no idea what is wrong. I will be going over the code line by line when I next have time and maybe something will turn up.

Also apparently I forgot to put the invention plugin on the website, hence why it could not be downloaded. This has been fixed.


when any main update is downloaded, or when you do a complete reinstall, eve-meep will work properly and update the transactions and journal.

upon launching eve-mon, it breaks down completely. even after a full day of not using any eve-related application (computer shut off as well), eve-meep will still get the beforeRefID error.

I am using Firefox browser, Windows XP Pro

edit: I tried using eve-meep, without the browser opened (i always have the browser open =p), and eve-meep updated the journal correctly. in an hour or so, i'll try to test this theory that it might be a couple of things:

1) if Eve-Mon is responsible
2) if Firefox is responsible

Salvis Tallan
Gallente
Sparse Enterprises
Posted - 2007.11.13 00:29:00 - [236]
 

Oh man, I look away for a few days to do the mining plugin and miss all the questions.

Hadjima Mitsurugi: Eve rounds down at 0.5, but in weird places. If you can give me one or two examples (like, bp type and me level, along with the correct number) I will keep adjusting.

Paranoic San: Seems like a bug, I'll add it to my list and see what I can do about it. I may redo that whole form anyways.

Pecunya:the "*" should be working, dont know why it isnt. Truthfully though I expected to make a whole separate finances plugin to give better information, but we all know what happens to long term plans. Ill add this as a bug and see what I can do.

S tropper: I expect there will be an update to the POS calc soon(tm) but I am not the one working on it so I cant give an exact time. I will make sure though that when it comes out this will be fixed.

tornpain: If the assets API doesnt come out and my current todo list gets smaller I will see what I can do about better manual inventory control

Dant Kramble: thats really strange. It could be that the 0 amount is not changing the total price properly, does it happen for any other items?

Feng Schui: Wow, if your right that will really help me to track the bug down. Ill take a look at eve-mon's source and see if there are conflicts.

Feng Schui
Minmatar
Cruor Evertum Dominicus
Posted - 2007.11.13 02:59:00 - [237]
 

Edited by: Feng Schui on 13/11/2007 05:38:56
just tried eve-meep with firefox running. got the journal error. I was on the forums, but not logged in.

next try will be with eve-mon running in an hour =)

after that, i'll try it with firefox running, but not on the eve-online site. trying to eliminate each tab, or if its with the entire browser itself.

update: tried with firefox shut down, and eve-mon in the background. received the journal error.

Paranoic San
PROFTECH
Posted - 2007.11.13 11:05:00 - [238]
 

Originally by: Feng Schui

1) if Eve-Mon is responsible
2) if Firefox is responsible


It's very strange. I have EVEMon running constantly all the time. And Firefox is almost all the time logged in eve site. But EVEMeep updates transactions and journal without errors.

The only time I had this error after first install - when I was pressing "Force download" few times in 5 mins.

Feng Schui
Minmatar
Cruor Evertum Dominicus
Posted - 2007.11.13 15:45:00 - [239]
 

Edited by: Feng Schui on 13/11/2007 18:36:06
just tried again with firefox running, but just on the google website (1 tab). got the journal error :(

Paranoic: what operating system are you running / firefox build? because this is getting irritating (and the only reason I don't use it constantly).

WinXP Pro SP2

Firefox 2.0.0.9

update: Tried again w/o browser running, or eve-mon, and received the journal error. I have no freaking idea whats going on :\

Paranoic San
PROFTECH
Posted - 2007.11.13 21:52:00 - [240]
 

Originally by: Feng Schui
what operating system are you running / firefox build? because this is getting irritating (and the only reason I don't use it constantly).

WinXP Pro SP2

Firefox 2.0.0.9



I use the same things. XP sp2 and latest firefox's build. Have no errors Rolling Eyes
Do you receive that error after clicking on Force download or you receive it right after EVEMeep starts?


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