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Salvis Tallan
Gallente
Sparse Enterprises
Posted - 2007.08.31 02:05:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Salvis Tallan on 21/07/2008 18:32:22

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Salvis Tallan
Gallente
Sparse Enterprises
Posted - 2007.08.31 02:06:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Salvis Tallan on 24/09/2007 21:41:52
Plugins

Once again, the only plug-ins you can use for this version are the ones available through the updater. More will be added as they are created/rewritten. If you would like to write one yourself, its quite easy! Just check out the source from sourceforge and go for it. What do you gain from writing a plug-in as opposed to writing your own app? Quick and easy disrubution, no need to write your own framework or data handling, and easy access to all the stored data you could need!

Currently Available Plug-ins
Multicomponent Calculator - Production of all items
Invention - Calculate the cost of inventing a blueprint, the success chance, and the cost per run
POS Calculator - Find the cost of running a pos, save the set-up, and soon even track fuel status with another API
Reprocessing - Find out what items reprocess into, and which way will make you more money. Also works for hauling and which has less volume.
Efficiency Calculator: Determine the waste and efficiency of different levels of Material Research

Salvis Tallan
Gallente
Sparse Enterprises
Posted - 2007.08.31 02:06:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Salvis Tallan on 31/08/2007 04:05:50
I would like to thank a few people who helped me with this version. Until now I have written this all alone, which severely limited what was possible, so without the help of these people I have no idea what this version would be like:
Kronnoss - everything
WhitePhantom - data handling, inventory, forms
Ferana - invention, multicomponent plugin

The app is vista compatible, and if it crashes, a log is generated in the logs folder. To report it, just tell me what you were doing and give me what the log spit out. This will load all your inventory files from the previous version through the "File->Load Old Inventory" menu item. Enjoy!

Features that did not make release:
Improved Graphing control
Blueprint/Item export

General Apocalypse
Amarr
Ship Research
Posted - 2007.08.31 05:55:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: General Apocalypse on 31/08/2007 06:02:23

Best vesrion so far and the update function is nice ugh

But your missing the new advanced labs Sad

Zarlis
Gallente
Posted - 2007.08.31 06:42:00 - [5]
 

couple of things

I have just started playing and found the reprocessing and tech 1 plugins helpful. Will they be added to the new version or should I just go back to the old version?

Also, I tried the autodownload and it showed 2 new plugins, POS fuel and Multi component calc as available but when I tried downloading it just said error and locked up EVEmeep. This isn't much of an issue as I don't have any use for POS fuel calcs but you might get others asking about it.

Ralle030583
Mystic Lion Hearts
Sev3rance
Posted - 2007.08.31 08:00:00 - [6]
 

i've tested and love the new version^^

btw. you can use the multiplce component calculator also for T1 stuff^^

GonzoWCS
The Shadow Order
Posted - 2007.08.31 12:20:00 - [7]
 

A shameless bump for one of The Shadow Order's FINEST. Shocked

Way to Go Salvis!!!

Salute!
GonzoWCS, Director, Industrial Engineering Group
The Shadow Order

Salvis Tallan
Gallente
Sparse Enterprises
Posted - 2007.08.31 13:46:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Zarlis
couple of things

I have just started playing and found the reprocessing and tech 1 plugins helpful. Will they be added to the new version or should I just go back to the old version?

Also, I tried the autodownload and it showed 2 new plugins, POS fuel and Multi component calc as available but when I tried downloading it just said error and locked up EVEmeep. This isn't much of an issue as I don't have any use for POS fuel calcs but you might get others asking about it.


I will look into why its not downloading for you. Did you get any of them? I do plan on rewritting all the original plug-ins to work with the new version, but because of the updater I was not in a rush to get them all done for release.

BritishInvader
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.08.31 13:49:00 - [9]
 

Did you ever pick a winner for the splash contest?

Salvis Tallan
Gallente
Sparse Enterprises
Posted - 2007.08.31 14:28:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: BritishInvader
Did you ever pick a winner for the splash contest?

Yup, load the app and you'll see it :). Or just find the contest thread and its there too.

ScoobieBoy
Gallente
SKots INdusTries
Posted - 2007.08.31 15:01:00 - [11]
 

Hey Salvis, great tool, been using the older version, and have noticed a bug has crept into the new release as well.
When using the multi-comp plugin, if u build a T1 item, the amounts update correctly when increasing the amount of runs, but not when building T2....
Also on the new version, the build time and sometimes cost does not seem to be working, the time always show NaN time, and sometime so does the cost.
Thanks,
Scoob

BritishInvader
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.08.31 22:07:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Salvis Tallan
Originally by: BritishInvader
Did you ever pick a winner for the splash contest?

Yup, load the app and you'll see it :). Or just find the contest thread and its there too.


I did load it, I just must have missed it, I asked cause I didn't see a Splash :P

Feng Schui
Minmatar
Cruor Evertum Dominicus
Posted - 2007.09.01 18:05:00 - [13]
 

good tool so far, though, i've found a few probs:

1) invention success on a pilgrim bpo is set to 100%.. even w/o using an arbitrator or decryptor :\

2) in the inventory, when you update a quantity, you also have to manually update the overall price. would it be possible to have 2 columns, Individual price, and Total Price.

Total Price = Quantity * Individual Price

so that the total price is automatically updated?

3) When you select a new item in the inventory, and then right click, adjust value, i've been getting:

Originally by: EVE-MEEP
Unhandled exception has occurred in your application. If you click Continue, the application will ignore this error and attempt to continue. If you click Quit, the application will close immediately.

Value of '30' is not valid for 'Value'. 'Value' should be between 'Minimum' and 'Maximum'.
Parameter name: Value.

Etrusan
Posted - 2007.09.02 00:22:00 - [14]
 

This new version is awesome. Thank you very much for providing it.

q. With the Finances plug in, is it possible to view my cash flow for weeks and months? Or is this only possible for days atm.

It would be really cool if I could compare weeks (or months) vs other weeks months and also if I had a chart of my total net equity, cash flow, and product line to see how I am doing. How many hours do you think it would take to code that sort of thing?

Salvis Tallan
Gallente
Sparse Enterprises
Posted - 2007.09.02 03:49:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Etrusan
This new version is awesome. Thank you very much for providing it.

q. With the Finances plug in, is it possible to view my cash flow for weeks and months? Or is this only possible for days atm.

It would be really cool if I could compare weeks (or months) vs other weeks months and also if I had a chart of my total net equity, cash flow, and product line to see how I am doing. How many hours do you think it would take to code that sort of thing?

I do plan on putting that all in, but most of it needs a graph to really display well, and it was not completed for when I wanted to release. Such is life I guess. Anyways I am going to wait a bit and see if any bugs crop up, take care of those and add in some new features at the same time.

Feng Schui: I'll see what I can do about making that easier. I guess if it gets to be annoying you could make a new instance and use the merge option. I will also get that bug worked out, at least its not a crash kind of bug.

dodge2005
Vale Heavy Industries
Molotov Coalition
Posted - 2007.09.02 07:48:00 - [16]
 

How do i download the plugins, there linked on your website to eve-files but their not hosted there, i get 404's

Jastra
Gallente
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
Posted - 2007.09.02 11:13:00 - [17]
 

ditto, got the app but not the plugins :(

Salvis Tallan
Gallente
Sparse Enterprises
Posted - 2007.09.02 14:05:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Jastra
ditto, got the app but not the plugins :(

Read the readme, or the first/second post above. You no longer dl the plugins from the website. Go to Help->Check for updates in MEEP's menu, then check for updates. This will tel you which plugins are available for download, and you can get them through there. This also allows me to do quick little updates to plug-ins, data files, or even the main application.

Jastra
Gallente
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
Posted - 2007.09.02 16:41:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Salvis Tallan
Originally by: Jastra
ditto, got the app but not the plugins :(

Read the readme, or the first/second post above. You no longer dl the plugins from the website. Go to Help->Check for updates in MEEP's menu, then check for updates. This will tel you which plugins are available for download, and you can get them through there. This also allows me to do quick little updates to plug-ins, data files, or even the main application.


Thanks Salvis, I figured that out, but is the t1 calculator included in there, as it;s not listed ?? - or being dense :)

Salvis Tallan
Gallente
Sparse Enterprises
Posted - 2007.09.02 17:00:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Jastra
Originally by: Salvis Tallan
Originally by: Jastra
ditto, got the app but not the plugins :(

Read the readme, or the first/second post above. You no longer dl the plugins from the website. Go to Help->Check for updates in MEEP's menu, then check for updates. This will tel you which plugins are available for download, and you can get them through there. This also allows me to do quick little updates to plug-ins, data files, or even the main application.


Thanks Salvis, I figured that out, but is the t1 calculator included in there, as it;s not listed ?? - or being dense :)

I decided to redo the multicomponent and then take a look at redesigning the tech 1. This way I have some time to work on it, since the multi does basically everything it does.

Jastra
Gallente
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
Posted - 2007.09.02 17:12:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Salvis Tallan
Originally by: Jastra
Originally by: Salvis Tallan
Originally by: Jastra
ditto, got the app but not the plugins :(

Read the readme, or the first/second post above. You no longer dl the plugins from the website. Go to Help->Check for updates in MEEP's menu, then check for updates. This will tel you which plugins are available for download, and you can get them through there. This also allows me to do quick little updates to plug-ins, data files, or even the main application.


Thanks Salvis, I figured that out, but is the t1 calculator included in there, as it;s not listed ?? - or being dense :)

I decided to redo the multicomponent and then take a look at redesigning the tech 1. This way I have some time to work on it, since the multi does basically everything it does.


ahh, got it, thnks, great work Razz

PauZotoh Zhaan
Aliastra
Posted - 2007.09.02 22:56:00 - [22]
 

Strange I cant download two plugins (POS and multicomponent). I get error. WHen I try download them from website I get error no file found on eve files website.
ERROR 404!
The wormhole you tried to discover could not be found.
Please warp away and try again.

Looks like most or even all plugins on website listed are missing:(

Etrusan
Posted - 2007.09.03 13:32:00 - [23]
 

I had that same problem originally. I ended up doing a clean install. I installed eve meep into the old folder and had it overwrite everything and when I had the program try and update I got two "errors". I did a clean install and I did not have that problem anymore. It seems, there is nothing you need in the old version anyway.

Salvis Tallan
Gallente
Sparse Enterprises
Posted - 2007.09.03 15:11:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Etrusan
I had that same problem originally. I ended up doing a clean install. I installed eve meep into the old folder and had it overwrite everything and when I had the program try and update I got two "errors". I did a clean install and I did not have that problem anymore. It seems, there is nothing you need in the old version anyway.

You are correct, everything should be a brand new install, which means really just delete the old stuff. Of those people getting an error when trying to dl a plugin, can you look in the Log folder for Eve-MEEP and see if it put the error in there? Easiest way is to try again, get the error, then open the log file for the day. If there is a giant wall of text that starts with something about changelog, thats what I need.

Jesho
Minmatar
Swedish Aerospace Inc
The Kadeshi
Posted - 2007.09.03 16:45:00 - [25]
 

as i was browsing the sourceforge site ( http://sourceforge.net/projects/evemeep/ ) where the source is, one of the pages had an advertisement for a site called 4urpower that was advertising isk selling.

isn't that against the EULA?

Jesho
Minmatar
Swedish Aerospace Inc
The Kadeshi
Posted - 2007.09.03 16:48:00 - [26]
 

and another thing, the pos plugin is missing.
the pos plugin download at http://www.eve-meep.com/index.php?page=downloads#plugin points to an url that gives 404

and the built in plugin updater fails to download the plugin, probably because it's missing.

Salvis Tallan
Gallente
Sparse Enterprises
Posted - 2007.09.03 16:48:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Jesho
as i was browsing the sourceforge site ( http://sourceforge.net/projects/evemeep/ ) where the source is, one of the pages had an advertisement for a site called 4urpower that was advertising isk selling.

isn't that against the EULA?

1. I dont participate in the eve fansite program
2. Sourceforge isnt the site for my application, just the source code

Salvis Tallan
Gallente
Sparse Enterprises
Posted - 2007.09.03 19:51:00 - [28]
 

Just added the reprocessing calculator in for this version. Once again you can get it through the updater. I am working to try and find out why some plug-ins give Error, and if anyone can send me the log file found in Eve-MEEP's Logs directory when it happens, it might help to figure it out. For those of you who are getting errors in the invention calc, where it always says 100% or something do the following steps to fix it:
1. Check for updates, everything should turn green.
2. Check AND Select the 3 resources files.
3. Right-click, and select Download.
This forces the application to get new versions of the same data files you already have, and it apparently will fix the problem.

Etrusan
Posted - 2007.09.03 20:42:00 - [29]
 

After toying with this for a few days, here are a few things I've noticed (you should read this as positive feedback):

1.) Inventory. I am mostly a producer and the inventory seems to count only bought and sold items. If there is no easy no easy way to handle this, having a blank form to manually update actual mineral inventory is a must, otherwise it would be too tedious to manually update each one individually.

2.) Pricing. I still don't fully understand pricing. Eve-central's prices are usually fairly good, but for my volume they aren't accurate enough. I want to use the exact prices that exist in my current or most recent buy orders. Now, if it is older then 5 days I want to use the highest price in the region, within reason.

3.) Pricing 2.0. A "recommended sell price" would be nice. I have a specific margin that I usually mark up by after accounting for all of my costs. Having Meep "recommend" a certain price given a set of criteria would rock.

4.) There needs to be a scroll for the "multi..." and "invention" plug-ins

5.) Errors? I am getting the error 102 getting journal data!

6.) Finances: The sheet should default to todays date.

b.) I've commented earlier on some features I would like to see.

c.) There seems to be an issue with the way displays profit (it wraps around).

Mona X
Caldari
Missions Mining and Mayhem
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2007.09.03 21:52:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Salvis Tallan
I am working to try and find out why some plug-ins give Error, and if anyone can send me the log file found in Eve-MEEP's Logs directory when it happens, it might help to figure it out.


In your links there is "Plugin":
http://www.eve-meep.com/updates/Plugin/Reprocessing-V1.2.0.dll

But in real links there is "PlugIn":

http://www.eve-meep.com/updates/PlugIn/Reprocessing-V1.2.0.dll
http://www.eve-meep.com/updates/PlugIn/POSCalc-V1.3.0.dll
http://www.eve-meep.com/updates/PlugIn/MultiComponentCalc-V1.2.0.dll
http://www.eve-meep.com/updates/PlugIn/Invention-V2.0.0.dll



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