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hamburger helper
Posted - 2007.08.30 17:32:00 - [241]
 

Highsec yarring has been a regular part of eve for as long as eve has existed.

Even wit the loss of your 6 accounts, Eve will still have gained any number of dozens of account in the same time period.

They are making cash hand-over-fist with the game as it is REGARDLESS of a few carebears threatening to leave (most of whom will be back in the game in under a week anyways).

Now explian to me why CCP would change such a fundamental component of gameplay that certainly seems to earn them many millions of dollars a year to satisfy the few who complain?

"Oh NOES we lost your 15$!! I wonder if the other 3.7 MILLION dollars we make this month will cover it?"

Wision
Posted - 2007.08.30 17:40:00 - [242]
 

no being able to get revenge makes it personal ;)

Baaldor
Black Sail Anarchists
Yarr Collective
Posted - 2007.08.30 17:45:00 - [243]
 

Edited by: Baaldor on 30/08/2007 17:48:12
Originally by: Wision
no being able to get revenge makes it personal ;)


Then fly with your main. Not your alt.

And posting with your main might be a thought also.

Kazowie
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
Posted - 2007.08.30 18:25:00 - [244]
 

This thread has been very useful. I now have a list of people to gank, and a list of people that will gank me if given the chance. Twisted Evil

btw, do all the anti pvp whiners petition ccp when they're ships get blown up by npcs?
"that gosh darned eom imp ruined my gaming experiance by shooting at me when I wanted to mine!!"

Commodore Andrews
Golden Goose Inc
Posted - 2007.08.30 18:26:00 - [245]
 

Edited by: Commodore Andrews on 30/08/2007 18:27:38
What was it that he lost lol? A hauler, or did his Uber bs get loftyed?

MASTER SMAMMAH
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.08.30 19:09:00 - [246]
 

Hey FLinx, I tried 1v1 with you and you were AFK. How about next time I'm on I'll convo you?

Andreea Void
Posted - 2007.08.31 08:48:00 - [247]
 

High sec pirating exist only because ppl are stupid .In last months CCP made a lot of things to stop high sec pirating .

1. elite indy's
2. INSTAS
3. Overpowered Concord

but to continue traveling in high sec on autopilot in a tech I indy with no fitting and 1 bil in cargo , this is stupid and trust me only stupid ppl die in high sec .

T Nex
Posted - 2007.08.31 10:15:00 - [248]
 

Originally by: Desolacer
a. It makes people unregister
b. It makes people tell other people to unregister.

CCP, today you have lost 6 people from your subscription list. Not because of how dynamic your game is, but because the people who like to play your game as a hobby are the victims of your own failure to make high sector a secure environment for players.

The more people get ganked in high sec. The more they'll quit.



1.- Dont throw the fault to CCP about your fault. You have elite indys, warp to 0km, wcs, inertias, .... ¿¿what more you want??

2.- Stop crying. Learn the lesson for next time. Its easy dont recognize our faults, and blaming CCP, but isnt CCP fault. Sure you had petitioned it, so i hope you dont get the reimbursement. Let me reference the Darwin theory is happening here and this is an example. Some people are going to adapt to the game, and only the most stregthest are going to survive.


Arexu Hukenshinara
Gallente
Intergalactic Specialty Tactical Aeon Brokers
Posted - 2007.08.31 20:19:00 - [249]
 

Edited by: Arexu Hukenshinara on 11/09/2007 17:51:50
While I dont condone any action that would force players to stop playing this game, I dont see you trying to back up the claims of six people leaving the game, not at all. It starts to make me wonder if you and six other accounts have been canceled that YOU own or if it's actually six other people who left the game?

You dont even show the people what you lost and any proof (chatlogs, screenshots..) of said players saying they are leaving the game or what items you have lost.

I may have left World of Warcraft and I know their terms may not fit here, but honestly there is one quote that fits this thread all too well: Screenshot or it never happened. Cool

lyrenna
Caldari
Soliders Of Eve
Posted - 2007.08.31 20:42:00 - [250]
 


lyrenna
Caldari
Soliders Of Eve
Posted - 2007.08.31 20:49:00 - [251]
 

high sec piracy is realy fine, i was a carebear, i mean realy big carebear...but after a suicide attack in high sec everything got changed well i felt to dark side abit not to dark mostly gray but hell yeah its opened whole new face of eve to me and no i am not hesitating about it.

Vasili vonHolst
Minmatar
Gargamel's Lair
Posted - 2007.08.31 20:52:00 - [252]
 

What was it that he lost lol? A hauler, or did his Uber bs get loftyed?

The Hooch
Minmatar
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
Posted - 2007.09.01 02:05:00 - [253]
 

Originally by: Desolacer
a. It makes people unregister
b. It makes people tell other people to unregister.

CCP, today you have lost 6 people from your subscription list. Not because of how dynamic your game is, but because the people who like to play your game as a hobby are the victims of your own failure to make high sector a secure environment for players.

The more people get ganked in high sec. The more they'll quit.



You know I said that myself about 4 years ago when the game was 7000, now as I login it is almost 30,000. Lets hope they lose you soon.

oh, I forgot...boohoohooo, please go play WoW now.


Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2007.09.01 07:41:00 - [254]
 

Originally by: lyrenna
high sec piracy is realy fine, i was a carebear, i mean realy big carebear...but after a suicide attack in high sec everything got changed well i felt to dark side abit not to dark mostly gray but hell yeah its opened whole new face of eve to me and no i am not hesitating about it.


Gray is the best color... the lines are so blurred sometimes I don't even know if it's piracy or simply business YARRRR!!ugh

Kumq uat
Posted - 2007.09.01 09:03:00 - [255]
 

CCP! I have 183 friends with 3 accounts each who will quit in protest too! FIX IT!

Raynes Orbis
Gallente
Sanguine Legion
Posted - 2007.09.01 09:33:00 - [256]
 

Edited by: Raynes Orbis on 01/09/2007 09:36:05
At the OP: if you dont like to end up being shot to pieces, try a game like Maplestory.
Playerbase is like 8-13 years old, everything looks warm and fuzzy and you never ever have to worry about dying at the hands of another player in so called safer regions.

Now go grab your sleepy doll and cuddle up behind that wonderful game.

Digital War
Gallente
North Eastern Swat
Posted - 2007.09.01 18:36:00 - [257]
 

Originally by: Desolacer
None of you seem to get the fact that some people cannot be in large corps and just want to be left alone and solo without disturbing anyone.


Firstly Uninstall Eve. Its an MMO Means you will play with people wether you like it or not. Clearly not for those people.

Secondly install something like X3 since its single player and then you wont get disturbed except by NPCS. And they have infinite patience with your complaints.

Lana Bird
Posted - 2007.09.02 01:02:00 - [258]
 

Originally by: Vasili vonHolst
What was it that he lost lol? A hauler, or did his Uber bs get loftyed?


His virginity? Laughing



M15510NMaN000101
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2007.09.02 10:13:00 - [259]
 

Originally by: Desolacer
Edited by: Desolacer on 26/08/2007 18:14:37
blah blah all you want but it is CCP's problem because the more people pirate in high sec, probability of them quitting is 90% more.

every person lost is 14$ out of ccp's pocket.

So its not an ingame thing you can boast about not being 100% secure about, its the reputation your games gonna get for

a. losing the people who love the game.
b. turning the people who love the game against them.
c. ruining friendships between the people who play the game irl.

And at one point, because you have such a "hardcore" game, you're going to realise, you're the one sitting at the desk wasting your life away taking away people's hard earned work, only to sell your character after a few years on ebay for a few 100$ which you havnt earned.

in other words, you're scum in game and you're scum irl.

yep, each and every ganker is scum irl. waa waa all you want.


BTW, there are two sides to every story. EvE isn't for everyone and if you don't like it then you shouldn't be apart of it. The option you complain about is what brings people TO EVE as well. So, now that you have gotten your imperative waa waa out of the way I think you should consider that you aren't the only one that feels this way but there is a vast majority that don't. Get over it or don't play.

Not personally attacking you or anyone else with these thoughts, honestly that is one thing that makes EVE different from almost all other MMO's. It's not for everyone but, I think CCP does well with the game mechanics as it is. BTW, what about if your corp got war-dec'd? Would you quit because of it? If so, then you shouldn't be playing either. There are ways around everything in the game you just have to push at it.

Come to the dark side it's fun...

DarkXenon
Posted - 2007.09.02 10:29:00 - [260]
 

Originally by: Radar Rat


Theres a major differance between eve and other mmo's ..

other mmo's try to make you feel special, they tell you that you are a hero and attempt to make you feel good about yourself..., eve.. kicks you and beats you and asks you.. 'what makes you special, what makes you better than everyone else ?..' prove that you are better than other players..




BEST STATMENT EVER

Hobbledehoy
Fat J
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2007.09.03 05:39:00 - [261]
 

Originally by: Desolacer
a. It makes people unregister
b. It makes people tell other people to unregister.

CCP, today you have lost 6 people from your subscription list. Not because of how dynamic your game is, but because the people who like to play your game as a hobby are the victims of your own failure to make high sector a secure environment for players.

The more people get ganked in high sec. The more they'll quit.



Even 0.0 is too safe IMO between warp to zero and the ability to logoffski...

Othya
Caldari
Ratio Decidendi
Axiom Empire
Posted - 2007.09.03 11:25:00 - [262]
 

Edited by: Othya on 03/09/2007 11:26:13
MMOs are social games. Social games = real people. Real world = people who generally want to hurt you for no good reason, but are bound by social constraints (they say killing my neighbour and looting his home is illegal Crying or Very sad) Logically MMOs = mean people. (simple enough for you, or should i draw you a sketch to further illustrate this simple conclusion? Razz).

Eve, in it's social structure simulates the real life in many ways. And what would get you in prison, or at least a restraining order in real life, does but little in the little Eve simulator. So it comes as a natural consequence that I, aswell as many others, have taken up piratry, and use any means necessary to get my hands on valuable loot, or just to ruin some poor bastards way.

Now, regarding your argument, that u're either a lone wolf: Assuming other peope won't hurt you just because u're a good person, is like assuming a raging bull won't charge at you, just because you're a vegetarian.

in other words: noone gives a baby caracal's rear thruster about you or your experience. All we look for is to better our experience, and if that implies the misery of some poor other player, so be it.

Want to up your experience? Stop whinig, grow some b4lls to fill those loose pants of yours, start using that God-given-too-long-unused-chunk-of-meat u'd like to call a brain (though some experts in the domain might disagree), play smart and u might just enjoy this wonderful game.

Instead of whining, use the time to better your play.

G0rF
Gallente
The Causality
Electus Matari
Posted - 2007.09.11 11:58:00 - [263]
 

Originally by: Roosterbrood
You have simply experienced causality of your own chosen actions.


The Causality Corporation officially denies this allegation.

We never heard of this individual before this epic thread.

@ OP: You're in the wrong game. Try X3.


Vrabac
Zawa's Fan Club
Posted - 2007.09.11 12:35:00 - [264]
 

Originally by: Othya
Edited by: Othya on 03/09/2007 11:26:13
MMOs are social games. Social games = real people. Real world = people who generally want to hurt you for no good reason, but are bound by social constraints (they say killing my neighbour and looting his home is illegal Crying or Very sad) Logically MMOs = mean people. (simple enough for you, or should i draw you a sketch to further illustrate this simple conclusion? Razz).

Eve, in it's social structure simulates the real life in many ways. And what would get you in prison, or at least a restraining order in real life, does but little in the little Eve simulator. So it comes as a natural consequence that I, aswell as many others, have taken up piratry, and use any means necessary to get my hands on valuable loot, or just to ruin some poor bastards way.

Now, regarding your argument, that u're either a lone wolf: Assuming other peope won't hurt you just because u're a good person, is like assuming a raging bull won't charge at you, just because you're a vegetarian.

in other words: noone gives a baby caracal's rear thruster about you or your experience. All we look for is to better our experience, and if that implies the misery of some poor other player, so be it.

Want to up your experience? Stop whinig, grow some b4lls to fill those loose pants of yours, start using that God-given-too-long-unused-chunk-of-meat u'd like to call a brain (though some experts in the domain might disagree), play smart and u might just enjoy this wonderful game.

Instead of whining, use the time to better your play.


So well said, even if a bit too agressive. Very Happy

Ix Ugnot
Mineral Investment Bank Corporation
Posted - 2007.09.11 20:05:00 - [265]
 

I have heard quite a few comments about the "ever increasing numbers of new players", does anyone have recent numbers to support a static, increasing or decreasing number of players. I am clearly looking for data showing a breakdown of paying players and not including GTC based accounts, etc?

Reading comments by players is irrelevant, whats the health of the player base?

SpankMeElmo
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2007.09.11 20:14:00 - [266]
 

There's a lot fewer scum on Sisi. Go mine over there. Win-Win solution, eh?


Rudy Metallo
Veto.
Posted - 2007.09.11 20:46:00 - [267]
 

Originally by: Desolacer
Edited by: Desolacer on 26/08/2007 18:14:37
blah blah all you want but it is CCP's problem because the more people pirate in high sec, probability of them quitting is 90% more.

every person lost is 14$ out of ccp's pocket.

So its not an ingame thing you can boast about not being 100% secure about, its the reputation your games gonna get for

a. losing the people who love the game.
b. turning the people who love the game against them.
c. ruining friendships between the people who play the game irl.

And at one point, because you have such a "hardcore" game, you're going to realise, you're the one sitting at the desk wasting your life away taking away people's hard earned work, only to sell your character after a few years on ebay for a few 100$ which you havnt earned.

in other words, you're scum in game and you're scum irl.

yep, each and every ganker is scum irl. waa waa all you want.


I'm hurt. Crying or Very sad

Ikoras
Minmatar
Final Agony
B A N E
Posted - 2007.09.11 22:47:00 - [268]
 

This topic and the op make me giggle. I am fairly new to the game. But one of the very few things I know is yes, you're not 100% safe anywhere in game. If you don't want to get killed in high sec then there is really only 2 ways to go about it.

Option #1
Don't auto, Be aware of your surroundings and never put all your eggs in one basket
Option #2
Subscribe to WoW or some other MMO because, Eve is clearly not for you.

Stephannus Calimben
Posted - 2007.09.11 22:54:00 - [269]
 

lol, everyone search your killboards for this guy, i wanna see what he lost Very Happy

Deadious
Posted - 2007.09.14 07:44:00 - [270]
 

Quote:
Edited by: Desolacer on 26/08/2007 18:14:37
blah blah all you want but it is CCP's problem because the more people pirate in high sec, probability of them quitting is 90% more.

every person lost is 14$ out of ccp's pocket.

So its not an ingame thing you can boast about not being 100% secure about, its the reputation your games gonna get for

a. losing the people who love the game.
b. turning the people who love the game against them.
c. ruining friendships between the people who play the game irl.

And at one point, because you have such a "hardcore" game, you're going to realise, you're the one sitting at the desk wasting your life away taking away people's hard earned work, only to sell your character after a few years on ebay for a few 100$ which you havnt earned.

in other words, you're scum in game and you're scum irl.

yep, each and every ganker is scum irl. waa waa all you want.



Yeah EVE isnt for everyone lol, dont leave... to make the solution u sometimes need to esculate the problem. Wasnt there a time when there was no concord???

Oh I totally agree, but my solution to fix this problem is to encourage all players to kill boring missions and noobs off, no noobs no problems Twisted Evil Also i wonder how long before games like this get rated as training grounds for RL incidents.



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