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Highpriest Aden
Posted - 2007.08.25 13:16:00 - [1]
 

I see 2 motherships in a .4 system nighboursystem to nonni. I have nothing against piracy, hence it's a part of the game, and have always been. What I dont understand is why a MS "that cant be scrambeld" can enter a lowsec system?
Even if my corp had 20 dreads, and wantet to pop it, we couldent keep the ms down.. it would just laugh, wait alittle, and jump out.
the only way to kill it is to get it agroed,and then take away it's cap, jump in the firepower and pop it. Wish us good luck!

It should be nerfed. If it was ordenary carriers they were sitting in, kool. we could assemble a force, and do some PVP'ing, but no way against a MS!
Titans and motherships I belive should be a 0.0 thingie, since they can only be build outthere. I look forward to the next patch!

PMolkenthin
TunDraGon
Posted - 2007.08.25 13:18:00 - [2]
 

True, but not many people have a mothership do they?

Xequecal
Posted - 2007.08.25 13:21:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: PMolkenthin
True, but not many people have a mothership do they?


The ship being expensive should not mean having a license to kill anything you want with total impunity in low-sec.

Highpriest Aden
Posted - 2007.08.25 13:25:00 - [4]
 

Nope, you'r correkt on that. but can you explain me why a MS should be allowed to camp a .4 system, since it's soo friggin hard to kill?
I surely cant see it, but I'm open for people with a intensive insight on the proplem.
I saw a aron and a nyx there yesterday, and those 2 with faction smarties, naaaa. not much can come throw.
IMO the MS and titan should be 0.0 only, they are way to overpowerd in empire.

I know how hard it is to kill a ms in 0.0 It's impossible in empire

T'X
Posted - 2007.08.25 13:46:00 - [5]
 

Same reason why high levels camp other people in other games. They're bored and want some fun. Nothing more satisfying that popping noobs in lowsec in a mothership ^^

Then again, you get popped by a ship that takes a minute to lock ;)

Draoidh
Amarr
Life Eternal
Posted - 2007.08.25 14:06:00 - [6]
 

"can you explain me why a MS should be allowed to camp a .4 system, since it's soo friggin hard to kill?"

I still do not understand why not. I am sorry but this thread is really just a whine about "I want to kill it but cant". If you dont like it camping the system then get your corp to warp in and force it to jump out. If your corp is not strong enough, too bad. Complaining about not being able to take out one of the most powerful ships in the game is just lame.

==D

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2007.08.25 14:08:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Draoidh
"can you explain me why a MS should be allowed to camp a .4 system, since it's soo friggin hard to kill?"

I still do not understand why not. I am sorry but this thread is really just a whine about "I want to kill it but cant". If you dont like it camping the system then get your corp to warp in and force it to jump out. If your corp is not strong enough, too bad. Complaining about not being able to take out one of the most powerful ships in the game is just lame.

==D



'Powerful' and 'Expensive' should NEVER EVER EVER equal 'invincible', and that's what a mothership in lowsec is.

Securion Wolfheart
Trojan Trolls
Controlled Chaos
Posted - 2007.08.25 14:08:00 - [8]
 

The thing is; its just a matter of time before EVERY pirate corp have a mothership or two on almost every gate in low sec.

A long time ago cruisers were big and badass, then as skills progressed battleships became standard, now we are in a transition to using carriers. In a year we will see ALOT of motherships, i can promise you that. Very Happy


NoNah
Posted - 2007.08.25 14:10:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Securion Wolfheart
The thing is; its just a matter of time before EVERY pirate corp have a mothership or two on almost every gate in low sec.

A long time ago cruisers were big and badass, then as skills progressed battleships became standard, now we are in a transition to using carriers. In a year we will see ALOT of motherships, i can promise you that. Very Happy




Thing is, a cruiser is easy to take down - with a cruiser or two.

Now, try taking down a mothership, Ill give you 15 motherships to try and gank it with. It is more or less impossible right now.

JitaTradeManager
Posted - 2007.08.25 14:21:00 - [10]
 

Get a Fleet of neut domis....

Deva Blackfire
Viziam
Posted - 2007.08.25 14:24:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: JitaTradeManager
Get a Fleet of neut domis....


And see him warp away

NoNah
Posted - 2007.08.25 14:26:00 - [12]
 

Or a huge fleet of ibises to instapop him!

Yes, a huge fleet of dreads would work, but that's not really relevant.

Mathias Orsen
Posted - 2007.08.25 14:53:00 - [13]
 

couldn't you just fly up to the MS and have a few ships drop a bunch of sentry drones. Kinda hard for a MS to bump a bunch of sentry drones out of the way to warp... that's what i would think... don't know though.

faction smarties can cause an issue with keeping the drones alive, but it sounds like a damn good start.

Markus Aurelian
Posted - 2007.08.25 14:54:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Mathias Orsen
couldn't you just fly up to the MS and have a few ships drop a bunch of sentry drones. Kinda hard for a MS to bump a bunch of sentry drones out of the way to warp... that's what i would think... don't know though.

faction smarties can cause an issue with keeping the drones alive, but it sounds like a damn good start.


officer/faction smarties > sentry drones

Highpriest Aden
Posted - 2007.08.25 15:06:00 - [15]
 

Draoidh - It has nothing to do about whining.
as other people state. it's nearly impossible to kill, and dude, even if we assemble a fleet to scare it off. it will come back, or camp another system. the proplem dosent dissapeer.
Since people use motherships in empire, there is no way to kill it, more and more ms class ships come ingame. and again, I dont give a fa... that it take a minute to lock me, you dont need a lock, inorder to kill people.
If it was ordenary carriers, it would give people a chance to give them a fight. but due to the ms bonus about ewar. There is no idea in even trying to give them a even fight, most pirates will run, and if we can deliver a serious threat, the ms will just jump when it even sees a shadow of a hostile capital fleet.
I dont wanna flame pirates in general, but I'm just speaking of experience.


Sarah Benthwell
White Knights of New Eden
Ignition.
Posted - 2007.08.25 15:14:00 - [16]
 

The only way i've come up with killing a ms pilot in lowsec is... jump 10 nano neut bhaals in, instagib his cap below 70%(need math genius here). Bump the **** out of him and keep jumping in more nanobhaals. Cyno in dread fleet with nanonaglafars (lol). Then hope you can kill him in time before he can get a lucky warp off. (Also may need some nanomachs, as 1 with likely die quick)

Dheorl
Surge.
Posted - 2007.08.25 15:24:00 - [17]
 

I know it would be an absolute nightmare to carry out but I've always though that having someone in every low sec system within the jump distance killing anyone who looks like they're even thinking about opening a cyno could be amusing.

All you need then is a shot from the webcam of the mom pilot as he realises he is stuck in a system which is rapidly filling with dreads.

I know it would be nigh on impossible to do but oh how I would love to see the face of the mom pilot.

Nyx STeeLGamers
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.08.25 15:54:00 - [18]
 

ye, the MS is pretty invulnable in lowsec, but is it worth buying a MS and use it in Lowsec? nah, and imo, its safer to fly a BS in 0.0 than a MS :), interdictors ftw :P

William DeMeo
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2007.08.25 16:11:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Mathias Orsen
couldn't you just fly up to the MS and have a few ships drop a bunch of sentry drones. Kinda hard for a MS to bump a bunch of sentry drones out of the way to warp... that's what i would think... don't know though.

faction smarties can cause an issue with keeping the drones alive, but it sounds like a damn good start.


Suicide frigs on it's smartbombs to close him in works. Bumping them works too.

Riho
Gallente
Drop of Blood
Posted - 2007.08.25 16:23:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: T'X
Same reason why high levels camp other people in other games. They're bored and want some fun. Nothing more satisfying that popping noobs in lowsec in a mothership ^^

Then again, you get popped by a ship that takes a minute to lock ;)


allmost all MS have few officer sensorboosters... so they lock like BS or cruisers :P

Konnichi Wa
Posted - 2007.08.25 16:41:00 - [21]
 

Suicide frigs on it's smartbombs to close him in works. Bumping them works too.
Yarr

hehe, You guys need to make a contract with the goons, inorder to be able to bump him all the time untill the ms dies.

Terianna Eri
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
Posted - 2007.08.25 16:50:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: T'X
Then again, you get popped by a ship that takes a minute to lock ;)


Smartbombs on a mothership have enough range to cover pretty much anything going in or coming out of the gate and they don't need target locks.

v3rtigo
Selective Pressure
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2007.08.25 19:03:00 - [23]
 

I welcome the challange :)

Taking down a 20 bill ship should pose a challange.

Bumping, spamming jetcans, drones etc are viable methods IMO.

Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
Posted - 2007.08.25 19:23:00 - [24]
 

Actually, spamming wrecks is soon going to go away, as they're planning to fix it.
So, you're left with, er, bumping it and neuting its cap to nothing at the same time.

Basically, since they're not going to allow bubbles in low-sec, they could either:
(a) make them scrammable in a way when they're in low-sec (doesn't really make sense)
(b) disallow them from low-sec completely
(c) give another ship type a way of scrambling them that works in low-sec.

I'd go for (c) or just (b) if they're too lazy for the last one, but meh.. the problem is going to be that they're being built more and more, regardless of cost.

I remember suiciding my breacher attacking a mothership (i bought a breacher, and realised it's the ugliest looking ship in EvE, even selling one is a crime), now that was absolutely completely redicilous ;)


Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
Posted - 2007.08.25 19:26:00 - [25]
 

Lowsec is the only space left where they have a bit of immunity. Would be just wrong to take that away - a ms is not thaaat much better than a carrier but cost like 20 times.
Dont want to see a noob pirate gang tackel down a 30 bil isk ship with a simple bubble like in 0.0. Crappy whine imho.

Vicious Phoenix
Posted - 2007.08.25 20:04:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
Lowsec is the only space left where they have a bit of immunity. Would be just wrong to take that away - a ms is not thaaat much better than a carrier but cost like 20 times.
Dont want to see a noob pirate gang tackel down a 30 bil isk ship with a simple bubble like in 0.0. Crappy whine imho.

So you suggest they be completely invincible instead and impossible to tackle, right.

/signed I support this thread. MS in lowsec are worse than the old stababonds. At least it was possible to kill and sometimes tackle a stababond, an MS in lowsec is impossible to tackle or kill.

Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
Posted - 2007.08.25 20:25:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Yakia TovilToba on 25/08/2007 20:28:49
Originally by: Vicious Phoenix
So you suggest they be completely invincible instead and impossible to tackle, right.



I don't suggest it - it already is this way and should not be changed.
If you spend 30 bil isk you can expect a bit of security and not a only a little improved carrier with a few more drones.

It's fine like it is, looks like the forumwhiner-coalition is searching for something new to whine about in order to enforce another unneccessary nerf.
It's not that everyone and his dog is flying motherships nowadays.
Sad enough they are easy to catch in 0.0 now ... noone likes to buy motherships anymore Mad

Dristra
Amarr
Idle Haven
Posted - 2007.08.25 20:30:00 - [28]
 

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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
Posted - 2007.08.25 20:43:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Highpriest Aden
I see 2 motherships in a .4 system nighboursystem to nonni. I have nothing against piracy, hence it's a part of the game, and have always been. What I dont understand is why a MS "that cant be scrambeld" can enter a lowsec system?
Even if my corp had 20 dreads, and wantet to pop it, we couldent keep the ms down.. it would just laugh, wait alittle, and jump out.
the only way to kill it is to get it agroed,and then take away it's cap, jump in the firepower and pop it. Wish us good luck!

It should be nerfed. If it was ordenary carriers they were sitting in, kool. we could assemble a force, and do some PVP'ing, but no way against a MS!
Titans and motherships I belive should be a 0.0 thingie, since they can only be build outthere. I look forward to the next patch!


You don't have to kill it, you can hurt it by killing it's fighers aswell, you know they are expensive Rolling Eyes

mdl70
Posted - 2007.08.25 21:21:00 - [30]
 

MS's should be 0.0 only!!! just like Titans. I got jumped by 3 carriers and a ms, with a support fleet in low sec. space (all Pirates).


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