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T'Renn
Silver Snake Enterprise
Posted - 2007.08.24 03:08:00 - [211]
 

Thank you for paying, Curzon. You managed to save a lot of face in my book by doing so.

Wigglytuff
Perkone
Posted - 2007.08.24 03:31:00 - [212]
 

Hmm, any ship, no ECM, and if I win I get 5x what I bet...

I think I have a doubleweb damp domi of lameness +5 I could setup.Razz

Jirai Grepher
Gallente
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.08.24 04:07:00 - [213]
 

the problem is rectified then.


If i were you curzon, i would probably report the thread to get locked.

Aldus Extremis
Imperial Academy
Posted - 2007.08.24 06:32:00 - [214]
 

Once more, I would urge you to amend your rules to the tournement. They do not allow for what you beleive is reasonable cause to abort the contest. Further more, if you will call the opponents wager an entry fee then amend the language to not use wager or bet. It's clear if it's a wager or bet the "bet" would be returned as well as profit. You choose to make your entry fee a moving target and base your "prize" on that entry fee. It really takes away from the claim that you will pay out at 5 to 1. In reality you are paying out at 4 to 1 in your formal challenges and 1.5 to 1 in this present discussion. What would happen if you claimed you were paying out at 1 to 1? If they win they get the value of the entry fee back? Doesn't sound fair or sporting and therefore the claim that you pay 5 to 1 is not either fair or sporting. You pay 4 to 1 at best and in this case 1.5 to 1.

I say this while maintaining that I am a fan and I hope you continue the humour and challenge and so forth.

It's not my math that needs checking. My math fits with accepted practice of horse racing all the way to pool hall bets. It's yours which is different and in being different needs to be very clear in your rules.

Gaige Gamba
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2007.08.24 06:55:00 - [215]
 

Well, a hefty portion of my respect for the EVE community in general just vanished.

1. Curzon was in the right in his descision not to pay: he said what he said he'd do, and wasn't able to do it at the time. He went to sleep (sorry guys, not all of us live and breathe EVE every hour it's running), the participant assumed things that turned out not to be true, and posted them as facts in an inflamatory fasion.

Granted there's that shifty bit about the bug and continuing to duel. But, given that Curzon was going to leave the descision to pay or not up to the YOU all (which he apparently has done in the past, though I have not seen this particular thread), then judging by the response the man would have been paid without a fuss.

2. Immediately there are cries of "lamer", "scammer", and "tight wad", when Curzon hasn't even made his point yet, and the OP still hasn't fed the angry mob the full, true story.

3. After clearing every scrap of this up, you all still proceed to bash the **** out of him for doing a perfectly reasonable thing (he even gave the guy his 500m back on the spot. What, you think he was gonna make his grand getaway with the omgbbq-750m that was left?).

4. He "pays the man", out of mere curiosity, and all the black-and-white minded forum warriors declare that all is well.

Neutral

Aldus Extremis
Imperial Academy
Posted - 2007.08.24 07:09:00 - [216]
 

Edited by: Aldus Extremis on 24/08/2007 07:20:08
Is your nose brown? Curzon, according to curzon's own rules, surrendered the match when he warped. I read the rules. There is not provision to warp out if there is a game problem. Should opponents wait till the next day to pay if they warped out? No they in fact payed before combat. Curzon should have payed as soon as he warped out.

So are exceptions only the providence of Curzon? If his challenger would have warped out how much slack would he be given?

Asssassin X
Caldari
Mind Games.
0ccupational Hazzard
Posted - 2007.08.24 07:42:00 - [217]
 

Originally by: Gaige Gamba
Well, a hefty portion of my respect for the EVE community in general just vanished.

1. Curzon was in the right in his descision not to pay: he said what he said he'd do, and wasn't able to do it at the time. He went to sleep (sorry guys, not all of us live and breathe EVE every hour it's running), the participant assumed things that turned out not to be true, and posted them as facts in an inflamatory fasion.

Granted there's that shifty bit about the bug and continuing to duel. But, given that Curzon was going to leave the descision to pay or not up to the YOU all (which he apparently has done in the past, though I have not seen this particular thread), then judging by the response the man would have been paid without a fuss.

2. Immediately there are cries of "lamer", "scammer", and "tight wad", when Curzon hasn't even made his point yet, and the OP still hasn't fed the angry mob the full, true story.

3. After clearing every scrap of this up, you all still proceed to bash the **** out of him for doing a perfectly reasonable thing (he even gave the guy his 500m back on the spot. What, you think he was gonna make his grand getaway with the omgbbq-750m that was left?).

4. He "pays the man", out of mere curiosity, and all the black-and-white minded forum warriors declare that all is well.

Neutral


You're obviously not to bright, but that is besides the point.

Dax, I'm glad you decided to pay.

Strife Phoenix
Blade Enterprises
Posted - 2007.08.24 08:23:00 - [218]
 

Originally by: Aille Pluthrak
Originally by: Curzon Dax
I paid because my mercenary CEO told me that he felt I was in the wrong. His opinion holds some weight; I trust him.

RAK, flame on as you like - I think we've already established that your thoughts are meaningless.

Well, seems you need to be told when to do the right thing. You are has untrustworthy has the rest of us. You would fit right in.


Hmm.. your sig man.. it's somehow contradicting you.. :D

ApaKaka
Lone Starr Corporation
Posted - 2007.08.24 08:24:00 - [219]
 

And now we know how the witch hunts of medieval times were facilitated...

Sorry to hear you caved in Curzon. Rolling Eyes

RuleoftheBone
Minmatar
Black Viper Nomads
Posted - 2007.08.24 08:27:00 - [220]
 

Originally by: Siren Sylvanis


Although your wish that I die in a green fire that smells like rotten eggs while listening to Bon Jovi and naked except for a sun bonnet as compromising pictures are taken of me.....


Out of this whole chucklefest I have a question.

Whats with hating Bon Jovi?? Cool

As if none of you have ever drunkenly sung along to "Living On A Prayer" at closing time LaughingLaughing.


Strife Phoenix
Blade Enterprises
Posted - 2007.08.24 08:32:00 - [221]
 

Originally by: ApaKaka
And now we know how the witch hunts of medieval times were facilitated...

Sorry to hear you caved in Curzon. Rolling Eyes


She turned me into a newt! :D

3Lance
Posted - 2007.08.24 11:24:00 - [222]
 

Edited by: 3Lance on 24/08/2007 11:29:27
Originally by: Curzon Dax
RAK, flame on as you like - I think we've already established that your thoughts are meaningless.


That's mature. What are you, 13?

Spitzerr
Racketeers
Posted - 2007.08.24 12:22:00 - [223]
 

Originally by: Curzon Dax


RAK, I just love you guys *tihi*
Awwww =')

Jonny JoJo
Amarr
The Imperial Guards
Posted - 2007.08.24 12:34:00 - [224]
 

Originally by: ApaKaka
And now we know how the witch hunts of medieval times were facilitated...

Sorry to hear you caved in Curzon. Rolling Eyes


Proof that whining on the forums GETS RESULTS!!!

Setana Manoro
Gallente
Firefly Inc.
Posted - 2007.08.24 13:59:00 - [225]
 

Originally by: Curzon Dax
Edited by: Curzon Dax on 23/08/2007 17:37:50
Flame as you like, but it doesn't change the circumstances. I've spoken, and that's it. :)

What some of you don't understand is that the people who think I'm a flying turd already thought that - and their opinion isn't going to be influenced one way or the other. I'm not going to post anything else here; it doesn't do anything other than encourage the trolls.

I fight, I win or lose, but ship incapacitating game errors are not within the spirit of the competition. I'm willing to pay on a technicality, but not like this. Siren has the documentation, and that's it. Its unfortunate that it turned out like this, but *shrugs* Like I said - people are going to believe what they will.

The folks who are eager to jump on and throw insults at me are eager to anyway, and folks - I don't need your patronage. *laughing* The Battleship Championship isn't about me making ISK. I have lots of it. Lots and lots and LOTS of it. Its about me giving away ISK to the community, for the folks willing to take a chance on earning it.

If CCP does away with the reimbursement petition and declares all bugs to be your own fault, then I'll consider this to have weight. Short of that....


You are wrong. I have read the thread since it started and before it i thought nothing of you.
Now I think you are a "I'm a flying turd" and whenever I am caught up in a conversation about the BS champ, i will refer them to this thread and eve-search.
Everyone has a price, you were quite cheap at 750m isk. :)

Mazare Mircea
Gallente
Posted - 2007.08.24 14:09:00 - [226]
 

Edited by: Mazare Mircea on 24/08/2007 14:09:47
Originally by: Adelorae24
Holy crap... Now he's going to play the "I'm such a giver" card. Give me a break. The excuse for being a poor loser is that you spend all your time giving ISK to people. Weak... Very weak...

C'mon man act like a Raketeer. Just say "gf" and shut up.


A few days ago, a guy in my corp was being smacked in local by gang of 9 RAK - he was alone in the system and he had no back-up. He undocked, killed one of them and docked back. The remaining 8 continued to smack him because he didn't have the pair to bring it.

No, RAK never say GF, it doesn't matter if they win or lose.
Feel free to correct me if i'm wrong in this.

FT Diomedes
Gallente
Factio Paucorum
Posted - 2007.08.24 14:15:00 - [227]
 

Props, Curzon.

3yeb4ll
Racketeers
Posted - 2007.08.24 14:18:00 - [228]
 

I'll correct you.

We smack more than a deranged nanny in a nursery full of ADD kids, and what's more you LOVE IT. But sometimes - only sometimes - we can be arsed to type "gf" in local.

Aille Pluthrak
Caldari
Racketeers
Posted - 2007.08.24 14:24:00 - [229]
 

Originally by: Strife Phoenix
Originally by: Aille Pluthrak
Originally by: Curzon Dax
I paid because my mercenary CEO told me that he felt I was in the wrong. His opinion holds some weight; I trust him.

RAK, flame on as you like - I think we've already established that your thoughts are meaningless.

Well, seems you need to be told when to do the right thing. You are has untrustworthy has the rest of us. You would fit right in.


Hmm.. your sig man.. it's somehow contradicting you.. :D

Really? I'm whinning? What's your definition?

Mazare Mircea
Gallente
Posted - 2007.08.24 14:49:00 - [230]
 

Originally by: 3yeb4ll
I'll correct you.

We smack more than a deranged nanny in a nursery full of ADD kids, and what's more you LOVE IT. But sometimes - only sometimes - we can be arsed to type "gf" in local.


Yeah yeah ... i've also heard of the loch ness monster. :)))

Strife Phoenix
Blade Enterprises
Posted - 2007.08.24 14:50:00 - [231]
 

Edited by: Strife Phoenix on 24/08/2007 14:53:21
Originally by: Aille Pluthrak

Really? I'm whinning? What's your definition?


whine (hwīn, wīn) pronunciation

v., whined, whin·ing, whines.

v.intr.

1. To utter a plaintive, high-pitched, protracted sound, as in pain, fear, supplication, or complaint.
2. To complain or protest in a childish fashion.
3. To produce a sustained noise of relatively high pitch: jet engines whining.

v.tr.

To utter with a whine.
n.

1. The act of whining.
2. A whining sound.
3. A complaint uttered in a plaintive tone.

[Middle English whinen, from Old English hwīnan, to make a whizzing sound.]
whiner whin'er n.
whiningly whin'ing·ly adv.
whiny whin'y or whin'ey adj.

whine

verb

1. To cry with soft, intermittent, often plaintive sounds: pule, whimper. See sounds/pleasant sounds/unpleasant sounds/neutral sounds or silence.
2. To express negative feelings, especially of dissatisfaction or resentment: complain, grouch, grump. Informal crab, gripe, grouse, kick. Slang beef, bellyache, *****. See feelings, happy/unhappy.

Translations for: Whine

Dansk (Danish)
n. - klagen, flæben, jamren, klynken, piben
v. intr. - klage sig
v. tr. - klage, flæbe, jamre, klynke

Nederlands (Dutch)
jengelen, janken, gieren

Français (French)
n. - geignement, plainte, sifflement
v. intr. - se plaindre, geindre, pleurnicher, gémir (chien)
v. tr. - geindre

Deutsch (German)
v. - greinen, quengeln, heulen, jaulen, jammern
n. - Gejammer, Heulen

Ελληνική (Greek)
v. - κλαψουρίζω
n. - κλαψούρισμα, ουρλιαχτό, τσίριγμα

Italiano (Italian)
piagnucolare, guaire, lamentarsi, guaito, lamento

Português (Portuguese)
v. - lamentar-se, ganir
n. - lamento (m), ganido de cão (m)

Русский (Russian)
скулить, хныкать, жалобный вой, хныканье

Español (Spanish)
n. - quejido, gemido, aullido, gañido
v. intr. - lloriquear, gañir, zumbar, gemir
v. tr. - expresar gimoteando, decir en voz lastimosa

Svenska (Swedish)
v. - kvida, vina
n. - kvidande, vinande

中文(简体) (Chinese (Simplified))
抱怨, 哀鸣, 牢骚, 报怨声, 发牢骚, 哭诉, 哀诉

中文(繁體) (Chinese (Traditional))
n. - 抱怨, 哀鳴, 牢騷
v. intr. - 報怨聲, 發牢騷, 哭訴
v. tr. - 哀訴

한국어 (Korean)
n. - 보채는 소리, 우는 소리, 넋두리
v. intr. - 애처로운 소리로 울다, 우는 소리를 하다, 투덜대다
v. tr. - 애처로운 소리로 울다

日本語 (Japanese)
v. - 哀れな声を出す, すすり泣く, クンクン鳴く, 泣き言を言う
n. - 哀れっぽい声, クンクン鳴く声, 泣き言

العربيه (Arabic)
‏(فعل) يعوي, يتجنب, يئن, يطن, يعبر بالانتحاب عن (الاسم) انتحاب, عواء, أنين‏

עברית (Hebrew)
n. - ‮תלונה מיבבת, יללה‬
v. intr. - ‮יבב, יילל, התלונן ביבבה‬
v. tr. - ‮אמר ביבבה‬

And, oh yeah.. Feel free to use the translations when encountering sad pandas in space that lack skills in the English language Very Happy

3yeb4ll
Racketeers
Posted - 2007.08.24 14:57:00 - [232]
 

Unicode ftw Very Happy

Swamp Kitsune
Posted - 2007.08.24 15:17:00 - [233]
 

Edited by: Swamp Kitsune on 24/08/2007 15:18:07
Okay i wrote a long letter mad at you for not paying, but you did pay. Good boy >.>

Sol Basso
World Eaterz
Posted - 2007.08.24 15:31:00 - [234]
 

Originally by: Strife Phoenix

Stuff


You missed out binary and hex!

Sultradoness
Posted - 2007.08.24 16:12:00 - [235]
 

Well just my two cents not that it counts but im glad i read the full post instead of posting after reading the first 3 pages... Glad to see you paid up.

Bosie
THE C0RP
Posted - 2007.08.24 16:20:00 - [236]
 

Guess it did take peer pressure for you to do the right thing.

Before this event I held no feelings about you. Now I know you are a tightfisted sore looser who squelches on a bet by trying to change the rules who then pays up to try and save face.

This is one Eve player who will now not trust you in to be in charge of a pile of buffalo dung.

Shari Vegas
Minmatar
Ctrl Alt Elites
Posted - 2007.08.24 16:27:00 - [237]
 

It was all settled, there's no dispute over the payment he received, so why is this thread still going on about how he should have been payed more?

The OP is satisfied, and that should be the end of it.

Siren Sylvanis
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
Posted - 2007.08.24 17:03:00 - [238]
 

Originally by: Shari Vegas
It was all settled, there's no dispute over the payment he received, so why is this thread still going on about how he should have been payed more?

The OP is satisfied, and that should be the end of it.



That's a really good question. Let it go. Seriously.

Spitzerr
Racketeers
Posted - 2007.08.24 17:16:00 - [239]
 

LoL allie you sig is popular

Aille Pluthrak
Caldari
Racketeers
Posted - 2007.08.24 17:27:00 - [240]
 

Originally by: Strife Phoenix
Edited by: Strife Phoenix on 24/08/2007 14:53:21
Originally by: Aille Pluthrak

Really? I'm whinning? What's your definition?


whine (hwīn, wīn) pronunciation

v., whined, whin·ing, whines.

v.intr.

1. To utter a plaintive, high-pitched, protracted sound, as in pain, fear, supplication, or complaint.
2. To complain or protest in a childish fashion.
3. To produce a sustained noise of relatively high pitch: jet engines whining.

v.tr.

To utter with a whine.
n.

1. The act of whining.
2. A whining sound.
3. A complaint uttered in a plaintive tone.

[Middle English whinen, from Old English hwīnan, to make a whizzing sound.]
whiner whin'er n.
whiningly whin'ing·ly adv.
whiny whin'y or whin'ey adj.

whine

verb

1. To cry with soft, intermittent, often plaintive sounds: pule, whimper. See sounds/pleasant sounds/unpleasant sounds/neutral sounds or silence.
2. To express negative feelings, especially of dissatisfaction or resentment: complain, grouch, grump. Informal crab, gripe, grouse, kick. Slang beef, bellyache, *****. See feelings, happy/unhappy.




I thought I was stating my opinion on the subject. So, an opinion is a whine now? Learn something new every day. Idea


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