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Lewis Breaker
Posted - 2007.08.23 09:34:00 - [31]
 

The lack of a response just goes to show curzon dax is a wasteman and i dont think he will be posting here any time soon

Nocturnal Avenger
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2007.08.23 09:44:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Irob Urore
curzon your reps on the line here, just pay the man.


This is the second time Curzon warps out of a legit fight - and refuses to pay.

ry ry
Heroes.
Merciless.
Posted - 2007.08.23 09:49:00 - [33]
 

Edited by: ry ry on 23/08/2007 09:49:36
Originally by: Lewis Breaker
The lack of a response just goes to show curzon dax is a wasteman and i dont think he will be posting here any time soon

the thread had only been up about 4 hours at this point. it's entirely possible to go a few hours without visiting the eve-online forums.

let curzon tell his side of the story, then start your braying.

MaxSkywalker
Corp 1 Allstars
Initiative Mercenaries
Posted - 2007.08.23 10:03:00 - [34]
 

I didnt know Curson would do such a thing, oh well, its his rep... Confused

Johncrab
Minmatar
Teram Odator Rilfur Pegastur
Posted - 2007.08.23 10:11:00 - [35]
 

Edited by: Johncrab on 23/08/2007 10:12:38
I am ashamed for you Curzon ugh
And this is not the 1st time people claim you cheat on your tournament and refuse to pay when you lose.
If you like to advertise everything you do, make sure you at least have the balls to don't cheat.

Oh, and, you are allowed to chose the range the fight starts Siren and, also acording to the rules, ew is a no go. So by using those dampeners, Curzon was breaking his own rules. Even so, he managed to lose the fight Shocked

Shame on you Curzon Confused

Qjais Jew
Posted - 2007.08.23 10:18:00 - [36]
 

Its not as though hes low on money either after winning the EvE radio lotto.

unknownuna
Posted - 2007.08.23 10:35:00 - [37]
 

This doesn't suprise me, although I suggest people wait until Curzon makes a statement. He may be arrogant and rude sometimes, but i've got the impression that he is a decent person mostly and he doesn't seem to be the type to do this, as it goes against everything he has spent so much time on the forum creating and reinforcing.

On the other hand, this could be true. If so, it's a dissapointment.

Serret Nevets
Gallente
Posted - 2007.08.23 10:52:00 - [38]
 

JohnCrab,

His rules specifically state no ECM. Damps are not ECM. Dampners are part of Electronic Warfare along with warp disruptors, webbers, and ECM.

I am not a defending his actions, just clarifying. Smile

Gilthanas
Minmatar
Dreams of Desolation
Systematic-Chaos
Posted - 2007.08.23 10:55:00 - [39]
 

It's now been 6 hours and no reply tsk tsk.

A shameful act if ever i saw oneRolling Eyes

Siren Sylvanis
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
Posted - 2007.08.23 11:02:00 - [40]
 

Edited by: Siren Sylvanis on 23/08/2007 11:05:24
Don't be so quick to accuse Curzon of non-response. He's US timezone, and it is currently 6 AM US time. This was posted at midnightish US-time, and he logged shortly afterwards, presumably for the night.

Curzon has assured me that he has taken elaborate screenshots, and will be posting his case onto the Eve-O forums.

Until this happens, stop making personal attacks on Curzon's character. He has seemed like an honest guy up until this fight, and I'm willing to extend him the benefit of the doubt.

Let him speak and explain his case. Don't rip on a guy who's not online to defend himself.

Dodiez
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2007.08.23 11:08:00 - [41]
 

Jeez people, someone goes for a few hours without posting on the forums and you practically hang the guy.

I was asleep when this challenge happened (as we are on the East Coast in America) but when he came to bed (and woke me up Mad), he told me about the fight.

I think it could be a dysync thing. He had an overview bug, of which he has screenshots, and he couldn't launch drones. Now, I know he's going to post about this when he gets up and explain everything in detail. He tried last night after the fight but he said the forums went down and he couldn't post what he wrote.

I do know (because I helped organize it) that the Battleship Tourney is fair. Curzon does his best to ensure that everything is fair to both sides. He literally gets ill before each match because PVP is gut-wrenching.

He can set whatever rules he likes for a match, because it's his tourney, however he does change things sometimes when the person asks to have an exception made (like Siren did, by asking to fly a Myrm and by asking Curzon not to fly a Domi). 9 out of 10 fights go by the rules posted in the thread.

Give him time to respond to why he did things the way he did. Everyone is so quick to think something horrible about everyone else. Gotta love that about Eve. Rolling Eyes


Johncrab
Minmatar
Teram Odator Rilfur Pegastur
Posted - 2007.08.23 11:08:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Serret Nevets
JohnCrab,

His rules specifically state no ECM. Damps are not ECM. Dampners are part of Electronic Warfare along with warp disruptors, webbers, and ECM.

I am not a defending his actions, just clarifying. Smile

Ah, ok. I stand corrected then. Thanks and sorry for the wrong acusation on that detail Curzon Smile

Shari Vegas
Minmatar
Ctrl Alt Elites
Posted - 2007.08.23 11:10:00 - [43]
 

He goes into a fight knowing better than anyone that he "hasn't undocked in months," then tries to claim that you were taking advantage of him because he put himself in a scenario?

What a tool.

Pay up, you flaky bastard.

Johncrab
Minmatar
Teram Odator Rilfur Pegastur
Posted - 2007.08.23 11:16:00 - [44]
 

The man is constantly on the spotlight Dodiez. That's the way he wants it. So don't ask people to go easy on him. This is the price of wanting to be a celebrity.

Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
Posted - 2007.08.23 11:20:00 - [45]
 

I'm way more better to cheat than him yet I don't do cool MP3's .. and my forum warrior ways are merely shadow of old ways I used to have.. please giev isk? Confused

Celestal
Posted - 2007.08.23 11:21:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Johncrab
Originally by: Serret Nevets
JohnCrab,

His rules specifically state no ECM. Damps are not ECM. Dampners are part of Electronic Warfare along with warp disruptors, webbers, and ECM.

I am not a defending his actions, just clarifying. Smile

Ah, ok. I stand corrected then. Thanks and sorry for the wrong acusation on that detail Curzon Smile


I am trying to get my head around this , are you saying that his rules allow him to use damps but modules to counter the damping are not allowed ?.

Freyya
Advanced Planetary Exports
Intergalactic Exports Group
Posted - 2007.08.23 11:23:00 - [47]
 

Edited by: Freyya on 23/08/2007 11:24:12
to quote the man himself in the topic about siren dishonouring a 1vs1...

Quote:

Dax;

2. Siren, complaining about his setup is weak. If you want a 1v1, be prepared to deal with anything, and suck it up if you lose. I lost my last 1v1 in about 10 seconds because my setup wasn't compatible to what my opponent had fitted.

3. Laughing Mime, you warped out first. I don't care why, you did. Its a 1v1 and you warped out. After that, you guys...started again? And you warped out again? Then started again? At this point, you've lost the fight twice.


Sorry, I don't feel that you have any ground to stand on. Its cheap that Siren whines about your setup, but he won the fight. What's to say you didn't dock and refit a couple times? I'm not saying that you did, but you left the fight.

*shrugs*



Sorry Curzon but following your own post you ditched and lost the fight the moment you warped out, desync or not you don't care Laughing
Internet postings can come back to bite you sometimes Wink

Also i'm just supporting my long lost sister here!
Hi sis!
(you can tell i'm the pretty one)

Strife Phoenix
Blade Enterprises
Posted - 2007.08.23 11:34:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Celestal
I am trying to get my head around this , are you saying that his rules allow him to use damps but modules to counter the damping are not allowed ?.


Both are allowed to use all EWar modules except ECM type. I think I read an explanation of why in his Battleship Tournament thread but I can't be bothered to find it.

Gilthanas
Minmatar
Dreams of Desolation
Systematic-Chaos
Posted - 2007.08.23 11:44:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Siren Sylvanis
Edited by: Siren Sylvanis on 23/08/2007 11:05:24
Don't be so quick to accuse Curzon of non-response. He's US timezone, and it is currently 6 AM US time. This was posted at midnightish US-time, and he logged shortly afterwards, presumably for the night.

Curzon has assured me that he has taken elaborate screenshots, and will be posting his case onto the Eve-O forums.

Until this happens, stop making personal attacks on Curzon's character. He has seemed like an honest guy up until this fight, and I'm willing to extend him the benefit of the doubt.

Let him speak and explain his case. Don't rip on a guy who's not online to defend himself.



My post was meant as tongue in cheek.Shocked

Sorry if people don't understand the concept of sarcasmWink

Anyway if it caused offence i apologise, was just trying to outline the countdownt that was happening towards Dax finally making his post.

Lavraen
Animus Furandi
Posted - 2007.08.23 11:51:00 - [50]
 

Many people have probably read the RAK/Curzon thread where we were trying to set up a 1 v 1 with one of our members Dhejay Centrix.

This thread has put serious doubts as to whether or not Curzon can be trusted to play fair. Especially after he called us up over not honouring a 1 v 1 (which we don't usually) but made an exception in his case because it was going out on EveTV. I know it sounds hypocritical coming from a RAK member but the fight was scheduled and we haven't heard anything back from him.

This thread has knocked his rep a bit and coupled with his lack of proactiveness regarding our scheduled 1 v 1, I'm personally having second thoughts. Obviously I'll wait to see what the other RAK guys decide.

Maybe he should join us in RAK with all the other dishonourables!

Ah well, I await Curzon's side of the story with great interest.


Cpt Placeholder
Posted - 2007.08.23 12:13:00 - [51]
 

Something makes me think he forgot to put drones in his ship.

Anyways use a scrambler and have remote reppers ready, trust is useless.

Ishtar1
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2007.08.23 12:18:00 - [52]
 

if what you say is correct sounds like he owes you 1.25bill due to him warping away (running away, forefitting what ever you want to call it) no excuses tbh if he didnt have his overview etc set thats his problem i bet you he would have kept your money if you warped out saying that.

No excuses simple as you won due to him warping out finishing the fight and leaving you to claim the battlefield

And him saying you had an advantage because he hadnt undocked in 4 months? B.S.

Tiny Tove
Posted - 2007.08.23 12:19:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: Tiny Tove on 23/08/2007 13:33:01
Originally by: Lavraen
Ah well, I await Curzon's side of the story with great interest.



All I'm interested in is exactly how far off the handle he flies this time. He's hilarious. Mr. Normal most of the time. Unless somebody disagrees with him. Then it's flip-out-time.
I do wonder if he's actually murder one, since they both do it. Probably just a coincidence.

*snip* Please be nice -TheDagda (mods@ccpgames.com)

*double snip* Please stop that -TheDagda (mods@ccpgames.com)


I suppose I had better post this with an alt... irony is king.

ry ry
Heroes.
Merciless.
Posted - 2007.08.23 12:28:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: Tiny Tove
Originally by: Lavraen
Ah well, I await Curzon's side of the story with great interest.



All I'm interested in is exactly how far off the handle he flies this time. He's hilarious. Mr. Normal most of the time. Unless somebody disagrees with him. Then it's flip-out-time.
I do wonder if he's actually murder one, since they both do it. Probably just a coincidence.

*snip*

I suppose I had better post this with an alt... irony is king.

dodiez, is that you?

Lewis Breaker
Posted - 2007.08.23 12:57:00 - [55]
 

still no dax response, pure wasteman

Lavraen
Animus Furandi
Posted - 2007.08.23 12:58:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: ry ry
Originally by: Tiny Tove
Originally by: Lavraen
Ah well, I await Curzon's side of the story with great interest.



All I'm interested in is exactly how far off the handle he flies this time. He's hilarious. Mr. Normal most of the time. Unless somebody disagrees with him. Then it's flip-out-time.
I do wonder if he's actually murder one, since they both do it. Probably just a coincidence.

*snip*

I suppose I had better post this with an alt... irony is king.

dodiez, is that you?


OMG classic!

illbebored
Posted - 2007.08.23 13:07:00 - [57]
 

Poor Curzon. He even needs to send a chick on the frontline, trying to wash the shame away.

Not that i was expecting anything better.

3yeb4ll
Racketeers
Posted - 2007.08.23 13:21:00 - [58]
 

No reply yet from Curzon "Compulsive Eve-O Forum Poster" Dax? I can picture him now, poking away with his mouthstick for the works to explain his abject cowardice.

Curzon, you lily-livered cheat - you've been busted. FINALLY you stoop to OUR level and renege on a deal...oh, the sweet, sweet irony.

Props to Siren for outing him - hope you get your cash but I wouldn't hold your breath.

Spitzerr
Racketeers
Posted - 2007.08.23 13:32:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: 3yeb4ll
No reply yet from Curzon "Compulsive Eve-O Forum Poster" Dax? I can picture him now, poking away with his mouthstick for the works to explain his abject cowardice.
QFT!

Curzon, you are a coward. ugh

FreelancerAlpha
Posted - 2007.08.23 13:32:00 - [60]
 

I hope Dax defends himself soon, although after that nonsense where he warped out because he didn't even know the difference between ECM and EWAR and then didn't consider it a loss I'm not entirely confident the guy is as strict on himself as he is on his challengers. Even with screenshots of overview bugs, what does that matter? You don't get your POS back because the defending fleet got desynched. Isnt this about finding the best pvpers? Real pvpers deal with that crap and move on.


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