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Kieranda
Amarr
Weyland-Yutani Future Technologies Inc.
Posted - 2007.08.19 11:26:00 - [181]
 

Originally by: NO BRAKES
They day goonfleet starts caring about their opinion in CAOD is the day a great many of us quit.


Remedial does count as "a great many of us", no?

Omega Man
Amarr
The Geddy Foundation
Posted - 2007.08.19 11:29:00 - [182]
 

Originally by: Fry Fortune
Not our fault bob are trying to steal our tactic of forum silence to give themselves a better image.


They do it so much better.

Johnny Ringo
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2007.08.19 11:41:00 - [183]
 

Great read. Through all the boredom of isk-making, the lagfest battles and all the other issues of Eve, what keeps me coming back is the politics. Good job.

YARRRR!!

Fo Kaj
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2007.08.19 12:14:00 - [184]
 

Why has BoB been performing so badly when it was so invincible in the past? If only someone would answer that question in a three-part CAOD series. Oh wait


Nothing to do with 5 alliances v 1

rather pathetic tbh!!!

Veronique deEstelle
Gallente
3M Industries
Posted - 2007.08.19 12:25:00 - [185]
 

Originally by: Gaius Flaminius
So wait... BoB's proof of participation not going down is flawed, but James 315, who doesn't provide any proof, is right? The 'accused' has to provide the proof, and you can judge wether or not that proof is valid? Sounds kindof strange to me.




This is no court. The OP stated a thesis and everybody is free to prove him wrong. Untill he got proven wrong he is free to claim that his thesis is valid. Sounds pretty normal to me.

Jacques Archambault


Gallente
ISD YARR
Posted - 2007.08.19 13:26:00 - [186]
 

Thread cleaned.

Please do not troll or flame. Alt posts will not be tolerated.

-Jacques

Shadowsword
Gallente
The Rough Riders
Ares Protectiva
Posted - 2007.08.19 13:35:00 - [187]
 

Edited by: Shadowsword on 19/08/2007 13:35:39
Originally by: Fo Kaj
Why has BoB been performing so badly when it was so invincible in the past? If only someone would answer that question in a three-part CAOD series. Oh wait


Nothing to do with 5 alliances v 1

rather pathetic tbh!!!


Yes, because we all know that Bob is all alone. Rolling Eyes

Bob isn't performing as well as usual because this time, their ennemis also have a lot of experience in large-scale pvp, that's all.

Kun'mi
Amarr
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.08.19 13:56:00 - [188]
 

Originally by: Kieranda
Originally by: NO BRAKES
They day goonfleet starts caring about their opinion in CAOD is the day a great many of us quit.


Remedial does count as "a great many of us", no?


Judging by those illustrious pictures posted on these forums a few days ago, I would say yes, physically, he does account for slightly over half of eve's population.

Snowden Vel
Minmatar
GoonFleet
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2007.08.19 17:10:00 - [189]
 

Originally by: Fo Kaj
Why has BoB been performing so badly when it was so invincible in the past? If only someone would answer that question in a three-part CAOD series. Oh wait

Nothing to do with 5 alliances v 1

rather pathetic tbh!!!


RISE, DR, RMF, EXE (formerly SOCO and GONAD) and more are all sending large numbers of pilots to fight for BoB.

I seem to remember another alliance *****ing about being outnumbered as its pets were whittled away. With most of LV now in BoB this feels eerily close to deja vu.

dirtystockbird
Gallente
Armoured Assassins
The Red Skull
Posted - 2007.08.19 18:21:00 - [190]
 

Originally by: Omega Man
Participation rates seem to be a huge deal to the OP.

The claim is they are falling off and that BOB are making escuses for this happening.

Also BOB are being ground into the dust, this we been hearing for a few months now.

A massive wall of verbiage has fallen from this lick spittle's slack jaws on the subject.

So lets have a quick look.

BOB fleet battles this year:
Jan 22
Feb 53
March 79
April 69
May 77
June 75
July 75.

Okay, so pretty stable there in terms of fleet battles.

What about the amount of killing they been doing.

March 3222
April 1927
May 2894
June 2561
July 3353.

Hmmm, so they have shot down more in July than previously.

What about dying:

March 445
April 305
May 538
June 686
July 828.

Hmmm, they been dying more as well.

So lets get this right.
OP says participation is falling, coz he says so.

The known facts say:
BOB fighting the same number of fleet battles.
They are killing more
They are dying more.


Goons are keen to tell anyone listening, they are pwning BOB in 9-9.
They been saying that for many weeks now, isnt it about time the might of Goons and allies killed off those few stragglers BOB have left behind in their unseemly rush to escape?

Whats taking you so long?

BOB participation is falling, towers are coming out of reinforced at an incredible rate only 5 BOB are there to defend them?

Goons are either not telling the whole truth, hopeless ineffective, or a mixture of both.

As for James315 and his staff.
Well the jokes are too numerous and obvious to bother.
Make up your own punchlines.


The facts have no place in CAOD, only propaganda.

Ezoran DuBlaidd
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2007.08.19 19:01:00 - [191]
 

Originally by: Omega Man
Originally by: Fry Fortune
Not our fault bob are trying to steal our tactic of forum silence to give themselves a better image.


They do it so much better.



what

Radgun
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2007.08.19 19:18:00 - [192]
 

great read dude and only found one typo!

Delta3000
Gallente
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2007.08.19 19:18:00 - [193]
 

/dead horse

One of the many critiscisms against LV was the mouthpiece that some of its members excercised on these very forums, on a regular basis. It was a driving force for many of the alliances who joined Goons and RA in the fight against us. Goons are doing exactly the same, and before very long that same motivation for removing LV will be the motivator for removing you too.

/flogged

^ My views, not my corp's nor alliance's.

Martin VanBuren
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.08.19 19:42:00 - [194]
 

Originally by: Delta3000
/dead horse

One of the many critiscisms against LV was the mouthpiece that some of its members excercised on these very forums, on a regular basis. It was a driving force for many of the alliances who joined Goons and RA in the fight against us. Goons are doing exactly the same, and before very long that same motivation for removing LV will be the motivator for removing you too.

/flogged

^ My views, not my corp's nor alliance's.


Hey dude check this out I am about to burn the crap outta you. Watch closely:

Delta3000
UK Corp
FATAL Alliance


SirPolle
Gallente
Band of Developers
Posted - 2007.08.19 20:09:00 - [195]
 

Originally by: Director Stoned


who will be the successor CEO of YACAODI1MAC?




Major plot twist: Remedial.

Xyton Zatnox
Caldari
Aku Soku Zan
Posted - 2007.08.19 20:51:00 - [196]
 

good writeup.

Gaius Flaminius
Minmatar
No Reason To Fear
Posted - 2007.08.19 21:46:00 - [197]
 

Originally by: Montasque
You actually expect us to believe that you are just a non-biased observer who happens to be in a one man corp who knows a lot about the BoB/Goon situation?


I really don't care what you believe. I am just asking for the forum war to take on proper proportions, and for people to stop with the personal attacks over a game.

I also know just about squat about the BoB/Goon situation (except for what I read on these forums), but the fact that I left the game because of the BoB/cheating/chest beating thing, only to come back to a Goon/even worse chest beating thing sets me in a bad mood. You are not doing yourselves or Eve any favors with this behaviour.

Originally by: Montasque

Stop insulting our intelligence and post with your main already, this is ridicules.


As I said, believe what you wish.

Gaius Flaminius
Minmatar
No Reason To Fear
Posted - 2007.08.19 21:47:00 - [198]
 

Originally by: Veronique deEstelle
This is no court. The OP stated a thesis and everybody is free to prove him wrong. Untill he got proven wrong he is free to claim that his thesis is valid. Sounds pretty normal to me.


So the OP can cook up a bunch of lies (for all we know), without backing it up with any form of evidence, and we have to regard that as valid until someone can prove differently? Yeah, sounds right.

Kieranda
Amarr
Weyland-Yutani Future Technologies Inc.
Posted - 2007.08.19 22:03:00 - [199]
 

Originally by: Veronique deEstelle
This is no court. The OP stated a thesis and everybody is free to prove him wrong. Untill he got proven wrong he is free to claim that his thesis is valid. Sounds pretty normal to me.


I have been to Mars lately, can only recommend the canyon tours there during summer. However this holiday trip is only available to a selected few high ups in various governments and everyone involved will deny any knowledge of it. Except for me, the black helicopters should appear soon.
Until you can prove me wrong of course.


NO BRAKES
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.08.19 22:07:00 - [200]
 

Originally by: Gaius Flaminius
Originally by: Montasque
You actually expect us to believe that you are just a non-biased observer who happens to be in a one man corp who knows a lot about the BoB/Goon situation?


I really don't care what you believe. I am just asking for the forum war to take on proper proportions, and for people to stop with the personal attacks over a game.

I also know just about squat about the BoB/Goon situation (except for what I read on these forums), but the fact that I left the game because of the BoB/cheating/chest beating thing, only to come back to a Goon/even worse chest beating thing sets me in a bad mood. You are not doing yourselves or Eve any favors with this behaviour.

Originally by: Montasque

Stop insulting our intelligence and post with your main already, this is ridicules.


As I said, believe what you wish.


So you are going to quit eve again because of posts on CAOD? Methinks you take the forums too seriously.

Gaius Flaminius
Minmatar
No Reason To Fear
Posted - 2007.08.19 22:13:00 - [201]
 

Originally by: NO BRAKES
So you are going to quit eve again because of posts on CAOD? Methinks you take the forums too seriously.


Never said I would. I said I did quit over the whole affair in early spring, and just got back. I had hoped for a nice atmosphere, and a better community, but instead it's gotten worse. I'm not going to quit again.

Again, I am saying that the way you conduct yourselves on the forums reflect on your alliance, and will eventually effect you in game. Just look at BoB now. They behaved like idiots on the forums for long enough for everyone to get tired of them and band together to kick them out of the game. Like someone said earlier in this thread: The coalition has become what it set out to destroy.

With that, I'm going to leave you to flame on.

Kyle Frost
Caldari
Creative Cookie Procuring
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2007.08.19 23:36:00 - [202]
 

My experience in EVE is limited , compared to most of the people who have posted in this thread. And I admit that I don’t follow the political scene on daily basis. But…

When I first tried EVE online , I remember I looked at the political map and there was this blue spot in the lower left corner. That was almost 2 years ago.

I started playing seriously about 5 months ago and when I looked at the map – the blue spot had expanded to the lower right and the upper left corners of the map.

Today , the blue spot is no longer expanding but I can clearly see that it is still there.

So until that blue spot is gone , you – James 3151231…whatever – are no different than the next guy who’s saying “BoB sucks” !

So how about you wait for this “historical” war to actually take its’ place in history , before you reward us with another literature masterpiece ?

30 years from now:

Highschool friend: James , how come you never married ?
James: Ah…The Great War of EVE…

Mr Broker
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2007.08.19 23:38:00 - [203]
 

Edited by: Mr Broker on 19/08/2007 23:40:56
repeat

Mr Broker
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2007.08.19 23:41:00 - [204]
 

Originally by: Gaius Flaminius

Again, I am saying that the way you conduct yourselves on the forums reflect on your alliance, and will eventually effect you in game. Just look at BoB now. They behaved like idiots on the forums for long enough for everyone to get tired of them and band together to kick them out of the game. Like someone said earlier in this thread: The coalition has become what it set out to destroy.



That's not why people hate Band of Brothers. Try again.

You can deny all the accusations all you want, but you don't seem to know how this works. Their alliance name must be destroyed for people to get over it. Doesn't matter if people are right or wrong, the mob gets what they think they deserve. Always have, not BOB or GS can change that.

Frederick Skinner
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.08.20 00:58:00 - [205]
 

Edited by: Frederick Skinner on 20/08/2007 00:57:49
Originally by: Kyle Frost
[snip blue spot stuff]


Did you ever happen to look at what happened to that red spot on the right?


Veronique deEstelle
Gallente
3M Industries
Posted - 2007.08.20 01:42:00 - [206]
 

Originally by: Gaius Flaminius
Originally by: Veronique deEstelle
This is no court. The OP stated a thesis and everybody is free to prove him wrong. Untill he got proven wrong he is free to claim that his thesis is valid. Sounds pretty normal to me.


So the OP can cook up a bunch of lies (for all we know), without backing it up with any form of evidence, and we have to regard that as valid until someone can prove differently? Yeah, sounds right.


Since it is obviously only a bunch of lies, you should have no problems to prove him wrong. Even if you fail in doing so you still don't have to regard it as valid, you just can't say he is wrong.
If over time ppl still fail to prove him wrong they tend to assume that he is right. At least till somebody comes up with a better thesis^^


Originally by: Kieranda
Originally by: Veronique deEstelle
This is no court. The OP stated a thesis and everybody is free to prove him wrong. Untill he got proven wrong he is free to claim that his thesis is valid. Sounds pretty normal to me.


I have been to Mars lately, can only recommend the canyon tours there during summer. However this holiday trip is only available to a selected few high ups in various governments and everyone involved will deny any knowledge of it. Except for me, the black helicopters should appear soon.
Until you can prove me wrong of course.



That's an easy one. Just let us wait for the black helicopters...

Superslam
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.08.20 06:53:00 - [207]
 

Originally by: Delta3000

^ My views, not my corp's nor alliance's.


Much like your space

Anglo
Minmatar
Astral Mexicans
Posted - 2007.08.20 07:06:00 - [208]
 

Edited by: Anglo on 20/08/2007 07:15:27
very good read. thx jamez-

Braveheart, by William Wallace


“Aye, fight and you may die, run, and you'll live... at least for a while. And dying in your beds, many years from now, would you be willin' to trade ALL the days, from this day to that, for one chance, just one chance, to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they'll never take... OUR FREEDOM!”

AND

The world will know that free men stood against a tyrant, that few stood against many, and before this battle was over, that even a god-king can bleed.

says it all really-..


Viliny
Caldari
Golden Clover Astrogeologists
Revival Of The Talocan Empire
Posted - 2007.08.20 07:42:00 - [209]
 

It's nice to see that FIX give credit to other participants and in general have respect for others.

Im not what you would call a "Front line ACE dogfighter" but im on my way there and id like to fight some polite skilled pilots then :)

Kuolematon
Caldari
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
Monocle Overlords
Posted - 2007.08.20 13:46:00 - [210]
 

We, as a loyal pets should brought some nice presents to Sir Molle in BoB BBQ. By that we cut our area rent costs by 50%. Pepperami was very pleased by this and raised my status from "Alliance clown" to "Alliance failure". ugh


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