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Mari Onette
Amarr
Equilibrium.
Posted - 2007.08.02 00:17:00 - [61]
 

I thought Spartans were not supposed to be verbose either.

Harleigh
Genbuku.
Sons of Tangra
Posted - 2007.08.02 00:19:00 - [62]
 

Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: Harleigh
WOW .. so stumped for an answer you have to pick on a spelling mistake and use a cut and paste GM response ..

Then we wonder why there are code bugs ..
Well, it was a funny spelling mistake, I saw one Oveur made a while that was better, he spelled whether wether, which means castrated male sheep.

It's not a cut and paste GM response, we have different queues with different levels of priority, the senior GM queue is one of those, and once a petition is escalated to that queue it gets dealt with in the order it arrived, and obviously it can take more time to investigate some issues than others. That's explaining how the queue works.


Common courtosy would have someone atleast send a "yeah we are still working on it message" or are the Senior gm's that busy investigating bugs? ...

Wait .. i know .. maybe they are too busy in their alliances with all the wars going on ... whoops .. not allowed to bring that one up ... :P


Katarina Hetiako
Posted - 2007.08.02 00:19:00 - [63]
 

Originally by: Mari Onette
I thought Spartans were not supposed to be verbose either.


Sparta seem to have no idea about Spartans tbh, obviously they are not role playing.

AnarchistUK
Posted - 2007.08.02 00:19:00 - [64]
 

Please revert back to the original post. Stop stroking each other and let others sign and disable their accounts. Set a long skill, bring it back online when you think CCP need your money Twisted Evil

Katarina Hetiako
Posted - 2007.08.02 00:22:00 - [65]
 

Originally by: AnarchistUK
Please revert back to the original post. Stop stroking each other and let others sign and disable their accounts. Set a long skill, bring it back online when you think CCP need your money Twisted Evil


Seems the only people signing this are Sparta, I assume the others affected by de-sync losses are waiting for their response without feeling the need to come and shout about it on the forums.

Tarminic
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2007.08.02 00:22:00 - [66]
 

Originally by: AnarchistUK
Please revert back to the original post. Stop stroking each other and let others sign and disable their accounts. Set a long skill, bring it back online when you think CCP need your money

I suppose you filed bug reports every time you experienced a desync, right? Because those are what helps CCP fix the issue. And you posted in the ongoing desync-thread that the devs have been reading? What, no? You'd rather rant about it in General Discussion? Sorry, my sympathy is lacking.
Rolling Eyes

CCP Wrangler

Posted - 2007.08.02 00:23:00 - [67]
 

Originally by: Harleigh
Common courtosy would have someone atleast send a "yeah we are still working on it message" or are the Senior gm's that busy investigating bugs? ...

Wait .. i know .. maybe they are too busy in their alliances with all the wars going on ... whoops .. not allowed to bring that one up ... :P
Well, that's a bit of personal preference, some people complain if they get automated responses, some want it on a daily basis and some seems to want it hourly, but of course the senior GMs will get to that petition as soon as the ones that came in before are dealt with. But we do tell people that if a petition is escalated to the senior GM queue it can take a while because those petitions usually require a lot of investigation.

Katarina Hetiako
Posted - 2007.08.02 00:23:00 - [68]
 

Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: AnarchistUK
Please revert back to the original post. Stop stroking each other and let others sign and disable their accounts. Set a long skill, bring it back online when you think CCP need your money

I suppose you filed bug reports every time you experienced a desync, right? Because those are what helps CCP fix the issue. And you posted in the ongoing desync-thread that the devs have been reading? What, no? You'd rather rant about it in General Discussion? Sorry, my sympathy is lacking.
Rolling Eyes


/signed

Not the op, but the man above.

Tortun Nahme
Minmatar
Umbra Synergy
Posted - 2007.08.02 00:24:00 - [69]
 

the waaaahmbulance is broken now

got a problem, leave, and quit being a freaken forum drama queen, plenty of new people with less bad attitude to fill your place Rolling Eyes

AnarchistUK
Posted - 2007.08.02 00:24:00 - [70]
 

Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: AnarchistUK
Please revert back to the original post. Stop stroking each other and let others sign and disable their accounts. Set a long skill, bring it back online when you think CCP need your money

I suppose you filed bug reports every time you experienced a desync, right? Because those are what helps CCP fix the issue. And you posted in the ongoing desync-thread that the devs have been reading? What, no? You'd rather rant about it in General Discussion? Sorry, my sympathy is lacking.
Rolling Eyes


I don't want your sympathy? It's about all of us being given copy and paste in desync petitions. As for reporting bugs, done and failed. They don't care, but they will with people's accounts going on hold whilst long skills train.

Fader Bane
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2007.08.02 00:25:00 - [71]
 

Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: AnarchistUK
Please revert back to the original post. Stop stroking each other and let others sign and disable their accounts. Set a long skill, bring it back online when you think CCP need your money

I suppose you filed bug reports every time you experienced a desync, right? Because those are what helps CCP fix the issue. And you posted in the ongoing desync-thread that the devs have been reading? What, no? You'd rather rant about it in General Discussion? Sorry, my sympathy is lacking.
Rolling Eyes


actually we have. know the facts before you post.

CCP Wrangler

Posted - 2007.08.02 00:25:00 - [72]
 

Originally by: AnarchistUK
I don't want your sympathy? It's about all of us being given copy and paste in desync petitions. As for reporting bugs, done and failed. They don't care, but they will with people's accounts going on hold whilst long skills train.
How did you fail at reporting bugs?

Aldir Rundal
The Order of Chivalry
Nex Eternus
Posted - 2007.08.02 00:26:00 - [73]
 

Wrangler > Forum Warrior Mode: Engaged.

Film at 11!

Seriously people, they'll get to it when they get to it, and they're working on fixing the problem, do you honestly believe that they've stopped doing so? Or that they don't care that their game isn't working properly? To top it all off do you really believe that all they care about is subcriptions? Go watch some fanfest videos, grow some sense and let it be. It's not going to be solved instantly.

To the Op: You realise that CCP diabled the use of Skill Training on inactive accounts eh? Razz

torswin
Society Of The Abattoir
Posted - 2007.08.02 00:26:00 - [74]
 

can you castrate lady-sheep?

AnarchistUK
Posted - 2007.08.02 00:27:00 - [75]
 

Edited by: AnarchistUK on 02/08/2007 00:32:02
Edited by: AnarchistUK on 02/08/2007 00:29:52
Edited by: AnarchistUK on 02/08/2007 00:28:41
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: AnarchistUK
I don't want your sympathy? It's about all of us being given copy and paste in desync petitions. As for reporting bugs, done and failed. They don't care, but they will with people's accounts going on hold whilst long skills train.
How did you fail at reporting bugs?


Oh shut up and go to bed, you're causing this thread to fill up with repsonses to your lame comments. Nothing constructive to say, but cause hassle. Leave the thread please. oh and........ have a nice day.

THEY HAVE NOT STOPPED SKILL TRAINING WHILST ACCOUNTS ARE DISABLED.

An Anarchyyt
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.08.02 00:28:00 - [76]
 

Originally by: AnarchistUK
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: AnarchistUK
I don't want your sympathy? It's about all of us being given copy and paste in desync petitions. As for reporting bugs, done and failed. They don't care, but they will with people's accounts going on hold whilst long skills train.
How did you fail at reporting bugs?


Oh shut up and go to bed, you're causing this thread to fill up with repsonses to your lame comments. Nothing constructive to say, but cause hassle. Leave the thread. You've been told...... oh and........ have a nice day.


Because this thread was extremely constructive and full of intelligent posts at the beginning?

MrJordanIOI
Minmatar
The Lantern Mining Corporation
Posted - 2007.08.02 00:28:00 - [77]
 

Originally by: An Anarchyyt
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: Russell Simmons
Is Eve dying for another reason?
No, EVE is not dying at all. Be nice, it's 2 am...


Are you sure? Because I heard it has Mad Cow Disease....



Yeah and there are some very anarchyyst bovines among us.

IOI

Fader Bane
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2007.08.02 00:29:00 - [78]
 

Originally by: Aldir Rundal
Wrangler > Forum Warrior Mode: Engaged.


To the Op: You realise that CCP diabled the use of Skill Training on inactive accounts eh? Razz


where are those patch notes?

wrangler has fulling trained the forum warrior kill tree. now he should work on company representative skills.

Tarminic
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2007.08.02 00:30:00 - [79]
 

Edited by: Tarminic on 02/08/2007 00:33:48
Originally by: AnarchistUK
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: AnarchistUK
Please revert back to the original post. Stop stroking each other and let others sign and disable their accounts. Set a long skill, bring it back online when you think CCP need your money

I suppose you filed bug reports every time you experienced a desync, right? Because those are what helps CCP fix the issue. And you posted in the ongoing desync-thread that the devs have been reading? What, no? You'd rather rant about it in General Discussion? Sorry, my sympathy is lacking.
Rolling Eyes


I don't want your sympathy? It's about all of us being given copy and paste in desync petitions. As for reporting bugs, done and failed. They don't care, but they will with people's accounts going on hold whilst long skills train.

So you're suggesting that CCP does not care about the desync issue because you haven't got your ships back when you petitioned? I believe the real reason for this is because unless CCP's server logs don't show desyncs, which means that anyone could "fake" a desync petition if they felt like it.

An Anarchyyt
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.08.02 00:30:00 - [80]
 

Originally by: MrJordanIOI
Originally by: An Anarchyyt
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: Russell Simmons
Is Eve dying for another reason?
No, EVE is not dying at all. Be nice, it's 2 am...


Are you sure? Because I heard it has Mad Cow Disease....



Yeah and there are some very anarchyyst bovines among us.

IOI


I have noooooooooooooo idea what you mean.....at least, I think I am not a cow (or bull).

Aldir Rundal
The Order of Chivalry
Nex Eternus
Posted - 2007.08.02 00:31:00 - [81]
 

Originally by: AnarchistUK

THEY HAVE NO STOPPED SKILL TRAINING WHILST ACCOUNTS ARE DISABLED.


I do believe the phrase: "Proof or STFU" would be appropriate.

My proof is in the patch notes.

Katarina Hetiako
Posted - 2007.08.02 00:31:00 - [82]
 

Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: AnarchistUK
I don't want your sympathy? It's about all of us being given copy and paste in desync petitions. As for reporting bugs, done and failed. They don't care, but they will with people's accounts going on hold whilst long skills train.
How did you fail at reporting bugs?


Seeing as the OP decide to tell you to shut up, but knowing I shouldn't get involved, I believe he means 'Bug reports were posted but 'CCP' have failed to do anything'.

Please correct me if I'm wrong OP.

MrJordanIOI
Minmatar
The Lantern Mining Corporation
Posted - 2007.08.02 00:32:00 - [83]
 

Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: Ggrimreaper
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: Nightbird
/signed.

Your game is broken, and people are leaving. Your customer service is lacking, and it will be the downfall of this game.


That's strange, cause I just checked the subscription numbers, and apart from them increasing every month, this month had an even bigger increase than last month...


with all due respect Wrangler I know of at least a dozen ppl from our alliance who have quit and i know of quite a few more thinking about it...


Well, the average time a person stays with a MMOG is somewhere between 6 and 12 months, very roughly, so any corporation or alliance would have people joining and leaving at any time.

I'm not saying there aren't issues with EVE, though we do work hard to get things resolved, we're constantly working on improving hardware, software and content.

But I see the subscription numbers, and the idea that EVE is going to die because people are leaving is simply not true, those subscription numbers go up every month.


Does this mean with my 3 years I have outlived my Eve life and served the purpose, best ignored while paying and disposed of when being uncomfortable ?

Seriously believing that you improve the cluster, the game and content, but what you have failed in so far is to provide us with fleet battles that actually work.

IOI

Aldir Rundal
The Order of Chivalry
Nex Eternus
Posted - 2007.08.02 00:32:00 - [84]
 

Originally by: Tarminic
I believe the real reason for this is because unless CCP's server logs don't shoe desyncs, which means that anyone could "fake" a desync petition if they felt like it.


Yay! Somebody who thought about the subject!

Fader Bane
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2007.08.02 00:33:00 - [85]
 

Originally by: Aldir Rundal
Originally by: AnarchistUK

THEY HAVE NO STOPPED SKILL TRAINING WHILST ACCOUNTS ARE DISABLED.


I do believe the phrase: "Proof or STFU" would be appropriate.

My proof is in the patch notes.


do post the link.

Athanasios Anastasiou
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.08.02 00:34:00 - [86]
 

Originally by: AnarchistUK
Edited by: AnarchistUK on 02/08/2007 00:32:02
Edited by: AnarchistUK on 02/08/2007 00:29:52
Edited by: AnarchistUK on 02/08/2007 00:28:41
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: AnarchistUK
I don't want your sympathy? It's about all of us being given copy and paste in desync petitions. As for reporting bugs, done and failed. They don't care, but they will with people's accounts going on hold whilst long skills train.
How did you fail at reporting bugs?


Oh shut up and go to bed, you're causing this thread to fill up with repsonses to your lame comments. Nothing constructive to say, but cause hassle. Leave the thread please. oh and........ have a nice day.

THEY HAVE NOT STOPPED SKILL TRAINING WHILST ACCOUNTS ARE DISABLED.


The only one being unconstructive is you. At least wrangler is funny and does not act like a rabid 3 yr old.

Adam Ansari
Posted - 2007.08.02 00:35:00 - [87]
 

Edited by: Adam Ansari on 02/08/2007 00:37:27
We have all forgotten something very important in the midst of mocking the OP

so who's gonna protect all your POSes if you all stop playing? Cuz i know a couple guys who want to blow a few POSses up


Attention all alliance members looking for easy kills. Spartans are quitting the game to protest a bug. Now is the perfect time to steal their stuff. Their numbers are low, and so is their morale.

Tortun Nahme
Minmatar
Umbra Synergy
Posted - 2007.08.02 00:35:00 - [88]
 

my nephew is a rabid 3 year old

they are vicious

but said poster does not repesent them, they are at least a little civilized Razz

Price Watcher
Posted - 2007.08.02 00:37:00 - [89]
 

Originally by: CCP Wrangler
How did you fail at reporting bugs?

That's really arrogant and cold towards a paying customer.

Bug reporting is clumsy, stupid, and more trouble than a paying customer should have to put up with.

Perhaps you don't remember who really pays you. It's the paying customer.

Learn it, love it, live it.

LUH 3471
Posted - 2007.08.02 00:38:00 - [90]
 

Edited by: LUH 3471 on 02/08/2007 00:40:01
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: Harleigh
WOW .. so stumped for an answer you have to pick on a spelling mistake and use a cut and paste GM response ..

Then we wonder why there are code bugs ..
Well, it was a funny spelling mistake, I saw one Oveur made a while that was better, he spelled whether wether, which means castrated male sheep.

It's not a cut and paste GM response, we have different queues with different levels of priority, the senior GM queue is one of those, and once a petition is escalated to that queue it gets dealt with in the order it arrived, and obviously it can take more time to investigate some issues than others. That's explaining how the queue works.


u guys are an awesome team no rly ughSmile
but please fix it will u ( desync and all those bugs annoying the generaly players new and old which have been there since beginning)
for the love of all
love and unity


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