Posted - 2007.07.30 19:43:00 - [211]

 

Originally by: Neena Valdi

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Originally by: Foxy CEO

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They've got to have some huge holes in their code somewhere. They're getting faster and faster hardware but the effective cap on fleet warfare is getting smaller and smaller. They really need to hire some sort of outside auditor to look at their codebase with fresh eyes.

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Where did you get it from? I can bet the current lag during the fleet engagements is caused for 95% by hardware limitations. The server hardware simply can't process that much of information real-time.

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Oh, I have no doubt that nodes crash only when the processing capacity for that node have been maxed out.

We seem to be having trouble with 150 vs 150 now. Last year it was 200 v 200. Before that, more. It may be that bigger battles happen and these are just "bad days" when a lot of other stuff is happening on the same node, but it sure seems that the node crash threshold is shrinking (or at the very least not growing) while the capability of each individual node is being upgraded. It seems like their code is getting less efficient. The same number of ships shooting the same number of weapons at the same number of targets appears to be requiring more and more computational power.

It makes me think they introduced a poorly coded feature, a bug, or both. The faster and faster nodes should be handling bigger and bigger battles, not smaller and smaller, and that's a software problem.

Posted - 2007.07.30 20:03:00 - [213]

 

Originally by: NeverL

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its times more cheaper to buy new hardware then to review the code.

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Oh, yes. But when they buy new hardware and keep getting slower, maybe it's time to bite the bullet and look at the code.

No matter how hard you hit the head of the nail with the flat side of the hammer, it's not coming out of the board.

Posted - 2007.07.30 20:16:00 - [215]

 

Posted - 2007.07.30 20:19:00 - [217]

 

Edited by: Zak Kingsman on 30/07/2007 20:20:45

Originally by: Foxy CEO

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The same number of ships shooting the same number of weapons at the same number of targets appears to be requiring more and more computational power.

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I don't see that as the case at all, you have more ships (500+ in v7-) More weapons (20 carrier's w/ fighters(on just the COW side) plus POS guns) and more targets (again 500+ in local and POSs) the node did not crash, but there was massive lag, this is definately not worse than when nodes crashed out completely.

Posted - 2007.07.30 21:15:00 - [219]

 

The lag gods heavily favoured fatal etc. tonight as our gangs jumped in and appeared 1 by 1 slowly in target system and were picked off by them.

I wonder if there will be so many posts crying about how terrible the lag is from them tonight? I guess not. Lag is only ebil and a problem when its you losing ships to it I guess.

Posted - 2007.07.30 21:55:00 - [221]

 

Originally by: Armois Delgato

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Lagged, yeah it was. I was half amazed that your guys were actually showing up Fitz.

Fleet combat should be decided by skill and guile, not by 'who loads the enemy'.

To be fair, half of the targets were invisible to me half of the time... but at least I could see them this time.

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Dont go posting normal responses or you will destroy CAOD.

Posted - 2007.07.30 22:10:00 - [223]

 

Originally by: Fitz Chivalry

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Originally by: Armois Delgato

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Lagged, yeah it was. I was half amazed that your guys were actually showing up Fitz.

Fleet combat should be decided by skill and guile, not by 'who loads the enemy'.

To be fair, half of the targets were invisible to me half of the time... but at least I could see them this time.

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Dont go posting normal responses or you will destroy CAOD.

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I agree, that was way too level headed to from from the "other side" here!
But tbh, that is a very VERY good response and its teh essence of what many have already said:

Nobody like to loose but loosing a fair fight is ok anyway, you know when you have been played out.
Loosing a battle that you have prepared for, set up strategies for and if that works
you might have a chance of pulling it off and then having it all thrown out due to
that 90% of your fleet didnt load...THAT is what 'urinates' people off royaly.

We can all stand to loose as long as we go down fighting!
Because then you did what you could with what you had.
If that wasnt enough then, tough luck but at least you gave it your best shot.
Right now, even if you are destined to loose, you dont get the chance to even try.


/Lowa

Posted - 2007.07.30 22:22:00 - [225]

 

Edited by: boogaboob on 30/07/2007 22:22:19
Edited by: boogaboob on 30/07/2007 22:21:54

Originally by: Sujinder

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Edited by: Sujinder on 30/07/2007 22:12:57

Check out this battle report between:

FATAL / MPIRE / COW

Vs

RAZOR / MORSUS MIHI / & OTHERS...

*snip* no killboard links. -Ivan K

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Uh, yeah. Lag gods favored you this time. Congratulations.

You know what that reminds me of? oh yeah..

*snip* no killboard links. -Ivan K

Fix the damn lag ccp.

Posted - 2007.07.30 22:30:00 - [227]

 

Some excellent fights you guys are bringing, big props for that

Posted - 2007.07.30 23:10:00 - [229]

 

Edited by: Torquemanda Corteaz on 31/07/2007 02:17:18
good fights to all

Posted - 2007.07.30 23:56:00 - [231]

 

Yea brutal, though not too bad for me only 20 minutes to switch systems and not be able to jump to the rally point. Oh well, least i got on 5-6 km before the jump and die... as long as i get to shoot i won't complain too much.

Still I play this game for the epic fleet fights, least thats what i tell other mmorpg players, and it kinda sucks that i can make lunch waiting to be able to die...

Posted - 2007.07.31 00:29:00 - [233]

 

Lag is acceptable up to 250 in local, closing in on 300 the lag kicks in!
Add in another 100 like we had on saturday, its unplayable.

It really bites with desync and 15min+ lag and to make matters worse, not getting ships reimbursed!
CCP needs to shape up here!

Posted - 2007.07.31 00:45:00 - [235]

 

Edited by: Aya on 31/07/2007 00:45:58
Edited by: Aya on 31/07/2007 00:44:45
They won a minor battle not even in the system they are trying to defend and they are all so happy lol. 1 battleship loss is nothing, you guys killed my scorpion and I made 10Million isk from it. 60+20insurance+10m in mods = 100M payout.

If you think killing like 30 BS will stop whats going on you are gravely wrong.

Posted - 2007.07.31 01:31:00 - [237]

 

Today is the first time they won a minor fleet engagement, let them all sing "We are the champions" in vent together and bask in their glory. When they win a day in their home system i will be impressed and the first to say good job.

Posted - 2007.07.31 04:50:00 - [239]

 

Edited by: Kuolematon on 31/07/2007 04:50:10
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