Posted - 2007.07.29 01:12:00 - [91]

 

Edited by: Mahrla on 29/07/2007 01:14:22

Originally by: Kira Pasisson

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Edited by: Kira Pasisson on 28/07/2007 20:38:32
yeah trying to relog since more than 20 min...it could have been a great fight....ccp stop thinking about graphic issues and other non-sense...get on the source and make this game playable again !!!!!!!!

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Why you so angry? That is the Problem from the NAPTRAIN your make all blue and if anyone Alliance have a Problem he bring your Friends! And what make the other Side? He bring your friends and the End of the Story is your bring more and more and more ppls why your own Alliance cant defend self your Space! Thats all and now cry all ppls they have LAG no Wonder by 400+ in Local! The same we have this in D2 and now what's now? D2 is anymore and that is good we have now lower blue and better PvP and the important thing no Lag in Fleetbattles!

*Ironie on* Yeah we have 70% from EVE Blue and they help us!! Ohoho more Lag is coming! *Ironie off* The Server cant handle Battles over 300 ppls and more!!!

Make smaller Gangs with lower blue and your have Lagfree Fights and more Targets!

Posted - 2007.07.29 01:43:00 - [93]

 

Originally by: Noluck Ned

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Yay, I soloed a templar, woop-de-doo.

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aha!!! you killed my Templar ????

Posted - 2007.07.29 02:10:00 - [95]

 

Originally by: Dark Shikari

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Originally by: Lifewire

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Originally by: Noluck Ned

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Yay, I soloed a templar, woop-de-doo.

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aha!!! you killed my Templar ????

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Yeah, its an Amarr fighter drone used by carriers.

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Which fighter is that?

Posted - 2007.07.29 02:51:00 - [97]

 

Originally by: M00dy

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Originally by: Selene Le'Cotiere

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Originally by: Dark Shikari

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Originally by: Lifewire

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Originally by: Noluck Ned

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Yay, I soloed a templar, woop-de-doo.

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aha!!! you killed my Templar ????

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Yeah, its an Amarr fighter drone used by carriers.

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Which fighter is that?

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Can Templars use Jump Gates?

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Do Templars suffer from desync?

Posted - 2007.07.29 02:58:00 - [99]

 

Hey, today was even WORSE than JITA on it's worst day! Not just worse... but desync*lag*JITA worse!

I logged and had to face RL! This was the first time in ages that I actually WANTED to not play when my alliance needed/asked for me to be there.

To the current tennants of V7 known as COW - The Desync & lag issues sucked for all involved parties.

Hopefully the rest of the week will be MUCH less laggy after Tuesday... ROFLMAO!!! like the changes on Tuesday will make it any better! Throwing more hardware at a software problem makes the problem more visible. /me starts singing "Here comes the lag... do dah do dah do... Here comes the lag..."

I am Talidorn, and I have thus spoken!

Posted - 2007.07.29 04:29:00 - [101]

 

Originally by: fire 59

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You know what, it may not be too far fetched that in the near future, we won't be able to fight as we do atm. We may have to let the enemy fleet, jump in and load and then meet at a planet or something. Then warp closer to each other so we can actually fight with big numbers.

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This doesnt seem to much far fetched lol I can actually picture this lol

and BTW whats happening in V7

Posted - 2007.07.29 05:45:00 - [103]

 

last night was just another load of bull crap.... MM RZR dont sit there and pretend use had lag thats just bs guys u might of had a little. but when everyone our side is like i only see 402 in local and 3 other guys r like im getting shot... then one guys like umm there 500 and something in local it there gang and its sitting next to us. so frac use trying to make it look like use lagged as well and broke through our huge fraccin gate camp.

its almost like ccp want the defenders to loose and the attackers get all the benefits from the lag. CCP make the guys alrdy in system hav first prefs to server load this is bs im sick of these guys "winning" cus we desync and they dont. yes this is a whine but i got 0 repsect for MM rzr now so i dont want em letting peeps think there winning or there better. right now we hav not had a fair fight with MM rzr so both side hav no idea who accully win cus CCP chooses who win and its usally them jumping in. i would say they hav balls for jumping in but they know there gonna lag us out even more so im not gonna say it.

oh well guess im gonna get hammerd now. bring it on

Posted - 2007.07.29 06:38:00 - [105]

 

Not that I'm happy about the situation (I logged out after desyncing a couple of times and getting frustrated that I couldn't even load anything on grids), but what do you all expect? We called in hundreds of allies, RZR/MM/etc bring hundreds of people. Did anyone seriously think it would be lag free?

The problem is us, blobbing one another with every single pilot we have online. Is there an easy solution? Not really, but that's the plain and simple truth. No other game on the market even comes close to these size battles, why should eve be any different? Because people are stupid enough to sit around and amass thousands of players in alliances and then use them all at once?

*shrug* just sayin'

Posted - 2007.07.29 07:36:00 - [107]

 

Lol, funny...

I was just trying to find out on another PC whats going on after i lost internet connection, to bad this one also lost internet connection while i was posting/editing this thread.
To bad it was a lag hell again.

But funny to see that even if you write nothing (see my post) you can create a thread where ppl start *****ing arround again.

Posted - 2007.07.29 08:40:00 - [109]

 

Originally by: tartrus

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last night was just another load of bull crap.... MM RZR dont sit there and pretend use had lag thats just bs guys u might of had a little. but when everyone our side is like i only see 402 in local and 3 other guys r like im getting shot... then one guys like umm there 500 and something in local it there gang and its sitting next to us. so frac use trying to make it look like use lagged as well and broke through our huge fraccin gate camp.

its almost like ccp want the defenders to loose and the attackers get all the benefits from the lag. CCP make the guys alrdy in system hav first prefs to server load this is bs im sick of these guys "winning" cus we desync and they dont. yes this is a whine but i got 0 repsect for MM rzr now so i dont want em letting peeps think there winning or there better. right now we hav not had a fair fight with MM rzr so both side hav no idea who accully win cus CCP chooses who win and its usally them jumping in. i would say they hav balls for jumping in but they know there gonna lag us out even more so im not gonna say it.

oh well guess im gonna get hammerd now. bring it on

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I guess there are a couple of things you didnt learn from UEJ. First dont sit on a gate waiting for the attackers to come in as Cpt Pugwash said. Warp to the gate after or as they are jumping. Everyone in the system suffered from massive lag as multiple fleets jumped in from both the MU gate and the 2-3 gate. Your own forces (Fallen Souls) jumped in from the MU gate and according to your hypothisis should have had the advantage. We warped only our carriers to that gate to defend and RK jumped in behind the Fallen Souls gang. It appears that everyone at that gate was lagged massively as the 60 man gang from 2-3 jumped into you. The MM/Rzr support fleet warped to the 2-3 gate to a cov ops at range from your fleet. I was one of the first on grid and managed to load overview almost 3 to 5 mins later and started calling primaries. More then half the fleet that jumped into the large bubble on the 2-3 gate never loaded for almost 15 mins or more and some logged. Apparently some of you loaded, because you managed to kill me and a few others.

Bottom line is this is going to be a mess for awhile. You learn to deal with the various situations as they happen and try to learn how to play around the lag and plan on it. We all wish the game would play better, and I havent seen this much lag in along time, and I have been in alot of big fleet fights. We just have to adapt while CCP tries to fix this mess.

Posted - 2007.07.29 09:28:00 - [111]

 

Edited by: Telis Guevera on 29/07/2007 09:31:44

Originally by: Tasuric Orka

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Edited by: Tasuric Orka on 28/07/2007 21:03:54
We all blob, we all lag, shame on us for bringing what we can. No really, the only "blame" can be assigned to the engine and supporting hardware.

I should have stayed home, its all a joke really.

No but really, we do need new graphics and ingame voicecom.

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For what it's worth, I decided to quote a guy from the other side of the guns.
We came for glory, they came for glory, and all we got was a lousy lagfeast (and not even a lousy t-shirt).

Next time every alliance send in 1 representative, and when that one gets killed all the belonging alliance members self-destruct. Pointless, but server-savvy.

NO - to in station walking
NO - to new ship graphics
NO - to the typos in my post
YES - to fleet experience (isn't that what they claim makes EVE such a rich experience?)

Posted - 2007.07.29 10:14:00 - [113]

 

Originally by: EvilPhog

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Don't worry guys! Hardware upgrades on Thursday!!

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Will we test it on Thrusday evening?

Posted - 2007.07.29 10:50:00 - [115]

 

Originally by: Fabienne Sovicou

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Why aren't Razor posting their losses?

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With killboard syndication it isn't an issue any more. They'll get picked up on the updates.

Posted - 2007.07.29 10:59:00 - [117]

 

CCP designed this game the way that you need numbers to achieve something. And POS warfare needs huge numbers.

Razor/MM/etc. came in numbers because they need them for their goals. And since CoW is a small alliance we called for friends. That is not the problem, that´s the way it is, that´s the way EVE is designed.

But obviously the server can´t handle it. So either the game design or the server is flawed.

CCP - are you reading this?

Posted - 2007.07.29 11:05:00 - [119]

 

Originally by: tartrus

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last night was just another load of bull crap.... MM RZR dont sit there and pretend use had lag thats just bs guys u might of had a little. but when everyone our side is like i only see 402 in local and 3 other guys r like im getting shot... then one guys like umm there 500 and something in local it there gang and its sitting next to us. so frac use trying to make it look like use lagged as well and broke through our huge fraccin gate camp.

its almost like ccp want the defenders to loose and the attackers get all the benefits from the lag. CCP make the guys alrdy in system hav first prefs to server load this is bs im sick of these guys "winning" cus we desync and they dont. yes this is a whine but i got 0 repsect for MM rzr now so i dont want em letting peeps think there winning or there better. right now we hav not had a fair fight with MM rzr so both side hav no idea who accully win cus CCP chooses who win and its usally them jumping in. i would say they hav balls for jumping in but they know there gonna lag us out even more so im not gonna say it.

oh well guess im gonna get hammerd now. bring it on

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from what I saw in my covert, cow and friends sat with almost 150 ppl on the gate at some point with drones out. I wonder how the lag was created. When we jump in and you guys drop drones in order to create lag, you get it.