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Caldari
Ota Corps
Posted - 2007.07.26 03:59:00 - [511]
 

You are a dork kayo... btw nice sig Smile

Isiah Petrokov
Amarr
RIGHTEOUS AWAKENING
Posted - 2007.07.26 04:29:00 - [512]
 

*snip* - removed reference to deleted post. -Ivan K

Professional Corpse
Posted - 2007.07.26 04:33:00 - [513]
 

Originally by: Natsuki
Edited by: Natsuki on 25/07/2007 21:32:18
OMG OMG OMG OMG

(fixed it)


Why do I not get surprised that a BoB-member started this topic?

Professional Corpse
Posted - 2007.07.26 04:40:00 - [514]
 

*snip* - removed reference to deleted post. -Ivan K

*snip* - please don't troll. -Ivan K

Estoika Chonda
RipHorde
Posted - 2007.07.26 04:50:00 - [515]
 

It seems to be working nice now :O

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2007.07.26 06:48:00 - [516]
 

*snip* - removed reference to deleted post. -Ivan K

Karanth
Gallente
RONA Corporation
RONA Directorate
Posted - 2007.07.26 07:39:00 - [517]
 

Ohnoes, teh server is down!!1ONE!

Ok, not really, but it could be at some point, and then people will see me as a prophet, nay, a GOD!


rus6
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.07.26 07:44:00 - [518]
 

CCP have in the past given free days back to people's subscription if the server has been truely awful. It's been much worse then this before and they've fixed it and I'm sure they'll fix it again. Very Happy

It should be pointed out that there are servers supporting (out there in the real world) millions of users that run 24/7 for 365 including maintaince and are only allowed at most 5 minutes of downtime a year (For instance broadcast servers). So it is possible to do this.

However do we have a service level agreement with CCP saying they will provide 24/7 servers nope...

Kieran Jarnush
Posted - 2007.07.26 09:17:00 - [519]
 

still no feedback from ccp here i wonder on how it's resolved.

is there going to be another patch, extended downtime 'n stuff today or shall we expect the same happening today?

Goca
KAOS.
Imperial Republic Of the North
Posted - 2007.07.26 10:31:00 - [520]
 

Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Goca

"rare occasion"? lol..
yeah ok Rolling Eyes


I request that you compile, in the last month, the proportion of time the server has been down unexpectedly vs. the time is has not. I'm pretty sure that ratio would be around 99.8% percent. Rolling Eyes


putz, who was even talking about just the server being down?
How about the lag, desyncs, screwed up drones, poses, lag, desyncs, memory leaks, traffic advisories I could go on and on..
If the server is up and you cannot even jump a gate, would that qualify as your 99.8%?

Think then post..

Callthetruth
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2007.07.26 10:36:00 - [521]
 

its plodding along

SFShootme
The Carebear Stare
Hydroponic Zone
Posted - 2007.07.26 11:54:00 - [522]
 

I, the great prophet shall predict that it will be down tomorrow at the same time AGAIN! Shocked


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MaxSkywalker
Corp 1 Allstars
Initiative Mercenaries
Posted - 2007.07.26 12:02:00 - [523]
 

Aaah, once again, CCP fails to start the server in time..

No worries, my skill only stopped training 4 hours ago :)

the blender
Viper Intel Squad
Sons of Tangra
Posted - 2007.07.26 12:21:00 - [524]
 

Eve O is considered to be somewhat of a technical marvel by those that know about super computing clusters, and huge databases. How meny of us can really say they have the same level of experiance as CCP in using their own custom designed cluster software, that supports an aveerage of 20,000 simultanious users all making hundreds of database entries per minute each. All of this and it's 23/7 365 days a year, not including unplanned outages and updates, but even with those included it would still amount to over 95% uptime. There's a reason that their server cluster is one of the largest outside of academia, and thats because even the banks don't run their systems on such a large scale. And to top it all, you get 24/7 server support at no extra cost to the customer.

Give em a break, they don't want the servers down any more than we do, to us it's a lack of entertainment, so we go load another game and play on, for them it's a way to feed the family, eve goes down, loses even 1 customer then they have less in the long run.

The server will settle down and we'll find summat else to moan about till the next patch, hope the next thread is as funny as this one :)

Stitcher
Caldari
Posted - 2007.07.26 12:33:00 - [525]
 

*snip* - removed reference to deleted post. -Ivan K

Originally by: the blender
Eve O is considered to be somewhat of a technical marvel by those that know about super computing clusters, and huge databases. How meny of us can really say they have the same level of experiance as CCP in using their own custom designed cluster software, that supports an aveerage of 20,000 simultanious users all making hundreds of database entries per minute each. All of this and it's 23/7 365 days a year, not including unplanned outages and updates, but even with those included it would still amount to over 95% uptime. There's a reason that their server cluster is one of the largest outside of academia, and thats because even the banks don't run their systems on such a large scale. And to top it all, you get 24/7 server support at no extra cost to the customer.


QFT. Tranquility is not an average cluster, and EVE is not an average piece of software. It is constantly being updated, refined, improved, tinkered with, expanded upon and, what's more, both the game and the server cluster are forced to endure use stresses that are unique not only in the modern world of gaming, not only in the history of gaming, but in the history of server clusters and databases, full stop.

To demand any higher quality of workmanship and devotion from CCP than they already give is, to my mind, deeply unreasonable.

Buxaroo
Gallente
The Army of The Ori
IMPERIAL LEGI0N
Posted - 2007.07.26 13:30:00 - [526]
 

Originally by: SFShootme
I, the great prophet shall predict that it will be down tomorrow at the same time AGAIN! Shocked


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And I, the great prophet Buxaphet predict that whenever said server crash happens, the tinfoil hat brigade will place thy blame on thy Bobbitses.

Because we all know BoB NEVER suffer from lag! Wink

ps, Shootme, leave those nuubs in Ibis's alone will ya they don't mean ya no harm YARRRR!!

Nate D
Hell's Rejects
The Council.
Posted - 2007.07.26 17:37:00 - [527]
 

Why is this thread still up?

-Nate

Tarkam
Caldari
Gene Works
Posted - 2007.07.26 17:44:00 - [528]
 

Because It's Sexah

Allen Ramses
Caldari
Zombicidal Mania
Posted - 2007.07.26 19:31:00 - [529]
 

So the thread was de-stickified without so much as an official response. I hope that means something official is on the way... If not, I will lose a lot of respect for CCP.

An Anarchyyt
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.07.26 19:34:00 - [530]
 

Originally by: Buxaroo
Originally by: SFShootme
I, the great prophet shall predict that it will be down tomorrow at the same time AGAIN! Shocked


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And I, the great prophet Buxaphet predict that whenever said server crash happens, the tinfoil hat brigade will place thy blame on thy Bobbitses.

Because we all know BoB NEVER suffer from lag! Wink

ps, Shootme, leave those nuubs in Ibis's alone will ya they don't mean ya no harm YARRRR!!


Proof from the horses mouth!

Once, I heard that BoB all goes to London, and plugs directly into the server. And if they're losing, they simply take a hammer to that particular node.

Oh, and they abduct cats and drink their blood too........

James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2007.07.26 20:59:00 - [531]
 

Originally by: LifeLines
Originally by: Andrahkon
Originally by: Isiah Petrokov


Exactly. I'd like clarification on the same thing. I have budgetted entertainment, and if what I pay for isn't entertaining me, then yeah, I need to find something new.


This thread is entertaining for sure...:)
Btw if server were down for 2 days i never would cancel my subscription..thats the best game on market...doesnt matter how its running after an patch



patches are supposed to fix things, not to mess up everything ..


Welcome to real life.

Where even the best planned changes, patches and upgrades, sometimes go unutterably wrong in subtle ways.

James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2007.07.26 21:01:00 - [532]
 

Originally by: An Anarchyyt
Originally by: Buxaroo
Originally by: SFShootme
I, the great prophet shall predict that it will be down tomorrow at the same time AGAIN! Shocked


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And I, the great prophet Buxaphet predict that whenever said server crash happens, the tinfoil hat brigade will place thy blame on thy Bobbitses.

Because we all know BoB NEVER suffer from lag! Wink

ps, Shootme, leave those nuubs in Ibis's alone will ya they don't mean ya no harm YARRRR!!


Proof from the horses mouth!

Once, I heard that BoB all goes to London, and plugs directly into the server. And if they're losing, they simply take a hammer to that particular node.

Oh, and they abduct cats and drink their blood too........


Proof from the horses mouth

Yeah, I know, I know, but that post _made_ me do it.

heheheh
Phoenix Club
Posted - 2007.07.26 21:01:00 - [533]
 

this is funny ?

James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2007.07.26 21:06:00 - [534]
 

Originally by: Mike'P
Originally by: Ki Tarra

As for compensation, CCP has stated several times that they will not provide compensation for minor unscheduled downtimes. Nor will they provide compensation for longer planned downtimes. Should there be a multi-day unplanned downtime, I would expect CCP to revise that policy.


I'm sure this is the case, but like the phone companies don't want to give you conmpensation when they can't provide you with a phone... similarly, CCP can't pretend they are anything other than a service provider and they are failing to provide their service.

I also don't think that the EULA concept has yet been proven in a court to actually hold water.

All I'm saying is I want to play the game, and if that means some PVP against the investors or owners or whatever the corporate makeup of CCP is..

These downtimes provide the fuel. A high-profile article in PC Gamer would provide the lighting fluid.



Phone companies are regulated, and at the end of the day you _can_ cancel your phone line.

EVE is not regulated, and IMO pretty unique. But you can still cancel your sub if you want.

I remain a fanboy, and ... well, at the end of the day, if EVE's down for a week, I'll sob a bit over lost SPs, and then go do something else with my life instead. Like go to the pub, and talk about EVE.

I don't like there being downtime, but at the end of the day, so what? I care about downtime on the stuff that makes my life really really bad, like not having fresh water, or no shower.


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