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s0cks
The Scope
Posted - 2004.01.28 16:01:00 - [1]
 

I just had a thought. Drones are now even tougher then ever cus of this new patch. So how do frigates work their way around em. And in some cases.. even cruisers.

Simple... nerf them back to how they used to be. They can still be a strong as today, but their intelligence should be dropped. Way way ago, if a ship had its drones out, when frigate 1 shot at the ship the drones would go after him, frigate 2 then jammed the ship, frigate 1 would either die or run away. The drones would then do nothing... So using a frigate as drone bait was very viable.

They could also make the damn ECM burst bloody work.

Thoughts?

babyblue
Posted - 2004.01.28 16:20:00 - [2]
 


What is the difference to drones? I thought they were "optimised", not neccessarily stat-changes, but changes to make them less laggy.

Tano
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2004.01.28 16:21:00 - [3]
 

I'm all for making the ECM Burst work.

I think that drones should chase but the AI should be strong enough that if they lose lock/move out of range they will seek to acquire another one, so the locked frigate has to lead them a dance in the 20k range - has this been tried, does it work or too difficult?

olyyy
Gallente
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2004.01.28 16:40:00 - [4]
 

Well, even before this patch drones were pwning frigs... Now they still pwn frigs which is a good thing for those who spent a lot of time training the necessary skills.
There is a way for frigs and cruisers to get rid of them pretty fast anyway... Maybe u know it already, otherwise u'll have to find it by yourself Wink

j0sephine
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2004.01.28 17:37:00 - [5]
 

"Thoughts?"

Drones should get more managable when they get their accuracy lowered and related to size of the target, which was mentioned as upcoming change...

Siddy
Minmatar
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2004.01.28 17:37:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Siddy on 28/01/2004 17:38:55
How abaut some soort of EM Pulse wepon that Disables the drones for 20 or 30 secs?

or add this ability to EMC burst thinggy Exclamation

friggys whuld love to use em then

but to BS or Cruisers it whuld be Waste of Medslot

(Homeworld: Cataclysm got similar EMP burst that disabled small ships for long time and large ships for short time)

MaiLina KaTar
Posted - 2004.01.28 17:49:00 - [7]
 

IMHO the ECM-burst should be turned into a drone-disruptor type of module or there should be a new module with that capability.

It would emit a pulse that incapacitates the drones for a short period of time, which would make the drones vulnerable long enough for a frig to take 1 or 2 of them out.
So by using that module you would have an effective defense against the drones and you get more of a paper-scissor-stone approach since using drones against frigates would become a very stupid decision.

Additionally you wouldn´t have to nerf the drones at all.

Siddy
Minmatar
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2004.01.28 17:55:00 - [8]
 

Quote:
IMHO the ECM-burst should be turned into a drone-disruptor type of module or there should be a new module with that capability.

It would emit a pulse that incapacitates the drones for a short period of time, which would make the drones vulnerable long enough for a frig to take 1 or 2 of them out.
So by using that module you would have an effective defense against the drones and you get more of a paper-scissor-stone approach since using drones against frigates would become a very stupid decision.

Additionally you wouldn´t have to nerf the drones at all.


that kind of module shuld hawe significant recykletime + majestick cap drain

and 50/50 chanse of "stunning" drone

Lysanne
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2004.01.28 18:29:00 - [9]
 

nerf caldari ships !

Ithilgore
Caldari
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
Posted - 2004.01.28 20:01:00 - [10]
 

Quote:
nerf caldari ships !



How about *fixing* caldari ships instead of nerfing them into oblivion?



Lysanne
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2004.01.28 20:45:00 - [11]
 

how about fixing amarr & gallente ships first

bugeye
Gallente
RG corp1
Posted - 2004.01.28 21:34:00 - [12]
 

What about reducing the drone bay on battleships? would make them more vulnerable to frigates and force them to use frigates or cruiser sized drone carriers as escorts

Dust Puppy
Posted - 2004.01.28 22:26:00 - [13]
 

Quote:
how about fixing amarr & gallente ships first


I thought amarr ships were the flavor of the week.

pooti
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2004.01.29 06:43:00 - [14]
 

Quote:
Quote:
how about fixing amarr & gallente ships first


I thought amarr ships were the flavor of the week.


the nerfed a couple things that set one of the more popular configs back a bit

Asharee Intrefer
Their Damnedest Day
Posted - 2004.01.29 06:55:00 - [15]
 

Quote:
how about fixing amarr & gallente ships first


At least my Thorax looks really good after patch. Cool Turret models seem to have become more detailed as well.

Cao Cao
Caldari
S.A.S
Posted - 2004.01.29 08:15:00 - [16]
 

ECM burst should be given a 10km radius, and defenders *and* FoFs should auto-target drones and missiles both. This would definitely balance out the drone-frigate problem.

Jim Raynor
Caldari
Bad Kitty Inc.
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2004.01.29 09:36:00 - [17]
 

ECM Burst sucks against Drones because they target very quickly. They need to be given a sensible Scanning Resolution and not a 2 second target lock.

Speaking of which, I'd like to see a reasonable target lock on NPCs as well, they instant lock still.


 

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