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Blue Dice
Gallente
Kinley and Dice Technologies
Posted - 2007.07.13 09:00:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Blue Dice on 14/07/2007 07:18:58
Details can be found here: Nano Tech Inc. Website
Attention, there where a few small changes made since this pre pre IPO post. The major change being the drop of the original Idea of depreciation in order to have more transparency for shareholders.

The thread to buy shares can be found here: Sales thread for Nano Tech Inc.

FAQ:

Q. Why should we trust you?
A. I have asked three persons to vouch for my integrity, and hope they will post here today. Iíve been a director in my last corporation and would have been able to run with a lot of money without problems. I value things that remain more than ISK, those things being Loyalty, Trust and Skills. If you need to know me better before investing just contact me in game.

Q. Why are you doing this?
A. Because I need a new challenge in EvE, for me there are two challenges in one here. Running my own corporation, and running it successfully enough to please investors.

Q. How long will it take for you to start making money?
A. I will be making money through trade after 1 or 2 days, production will start to make money after about 2 weeks. I think everything should be on a good operational level after about a month.

Q. What will you do in the event that you don't sell all the shares?
A. I will start anyways as trade and partís of the production can be started with less money already. I will simple keep promoting and selling the remaining shares until the whole lot has been sold.

Q. How can investors demand that you liquidate the company, if at all?
A. There are two ways, one being the polite way, one being the impolite. Way one would be to run for CEO and gather enough votes of the shareholders to take over and liquidate. The second way would be to address it directly with me and to see for a good solution.

Q. Have you done this before? How much experience do you have?
A. No I have not done this before. I have good experience in trade (I have been trading for over 8 months), limited experience with production (I know how to calculate the profits and how the systems works, but have only done it occasionally), limit experience with corporation management and leadership (I have been a director for a few months in my previous corporation)

Q. At any time in the foreseeable future will anyone except you have the power to steal/scam?
A. In a close future, no. In a distant future members of the corporation will get more rights and be able to steal part of the assets, however never the totality. Who this will be can not be determined now.

Q. Do you have any other characters, mains or otherwise? If so, are you comfortable sharing their identities them with us?
My two main characters are Blue Dice and Daniela Destos which will be CEO and director of Nano Tech Inc. (note that Blue Dice is not yet in the corporation, but will be within 24 hours from now). A third character used for research purpose is Coral Ginloh. This are the only characters I have at this time.

Q. Would you be willing to submit to periodic audits?
A. Iíll publish a monthly report for the shareholders, if doubts that can not be cleared in discussion arise a deeper audit can be done publishing certain transaction details to shareholders, or letting a trusted person for both sides audit the corporation with an alt in game.

Q. What if someone War Decs your corporation?
A. Most parts of the trade and the production business will go on as usual, as most of it happens in station. Transports can be arranged through alts outside of the corporation or through contracts. The biggest impact of a war would be the difficulty to mine in highsec without danger, which would surely lead to a certain amount of members wanting to leave, but will not bring operations to a standstill.

Edit: Links

Coral Ginloh
Posted - 2007.07.13 09:02:00 - [2]
 

Confirming this to be my alt.

Daniela Destos
Minmatar
Nano Tech Inc
Posted - 2007.07.13 09:03:00 - [3]
 

confirming this to be my alt

Shar Tegral
Posted - 2007.07.13 12:58:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Blue Dice
A. I have asked three persons to vouch for my integrity, and hope they will post here today.

If you get all three to post references for you and those three are reputable: I'll pick up 250 shares.

Your ipo is well written and thought out. You are not a one trick pony either. However I should point out that your liquidation option is not exactly correct. IIRC only a director in the corporation can issue a vote for ceo change. (I could be wrong to as it has been a long time since I've done one.)

Still, who speaks for you matters more than a faulty opt-out clause.

Shiva Shakti
Gallente
Hi-Tech Industries
Posted - 2007.07.13 23:35:00 - [5]
 

Hi

Good luck with the IPO, I will have some questions for you when I've had a closer look.

Note: Your Nanotech link above is broken, but I found the correct on in your other thread. For those interested its: http://www.freewebs.com/ntinc/

Hope this helps, Shiva

Danger Powers
Posted - 2007.07.14 03:17:00 - [6]
 

Just curious, if you are raising money for your own cap ship production, why are you investing in your competitor http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=556031 ?

Ricdic
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2007.07.14 06:32:00 - [7]
 

Good job. Blue Dice has an alt joining the Zzz Alliance to handle research on the bpo's. Whilst I have no way to secure this, his character shown thus far would lead me to believe this is legit. But we never really know, I wish him the best of luck, and may throw a few iskies towards it. (This is not an endorsement, I was not one of the 3 - I don't think)

YARRRR!!

Blue Dice
Gallente
Kinley and Dice Technologies
Posted - 2007.07.14 11:17:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Blue Dice on 14/07/2007 11:19:20
Originally by: Danger Powers
Just curious, if you are raising money for your own cap ship production, why are you investing in your competitor http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=556031 ?


I'd like to clarify the fact that I'm not intending to produce capital ships.
As well the money invested in the mentioned post is from my personal funds and not in any relation to the IPO funds.


Originally by: Shar Tegral
Originally by: Blue Dice
A. I have asked three persons to vouch for my integrity, and hope they will post here today.

If you get all three to post references for you and those three are reputable: I'll pick up 250 shares.

Your ipo is well written and thought out. You are not a one trick pony either. However I should point out that your liquidation option is not exactly correct. IIRC only a director in the corporation can issue a vote for ceo change. (I could be wrong to as it has been a long time since I've done one.)

Still, who speaks for you matters more than a faulty opt-out clause.



I am still not sure if someone has actually to be director to be able to take over through a vote. Does anyone here have some experience with this? I based that on a reply in my pre IPO post, maybe I was a bit to hasty in taking it for a fact rather than checking by recreating that situation.

And I'll poke those people again to come here and write a few lines.


Originally by: Shiva Shakti
Note: Your Nanotech link above is broken, but I found the correct on in your other thread. For those interested its: http://www.freewebs.com/ntinc/


Thank you I've corrected it.


Originally by: Ricdic
Good job.


Thansk for the support... now when are you going to purchase your part of the shares Wink

Miranda Duvall
Gallente
Saberick Interest and Development
Free Traders of EVE
Posted - 2007.07.14 11:41:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Miranda Duvall on 14/07/2007 11:40:42
Any corp member with shares can "run for CEO".

If you want to be absolutely safe, use 2 corps: Production corp that has the BPO's, all shares in personal wallet of the owner, and the IPO placeholder corp of which the shares are sold. Profits are transferred from production corp to IPO corp, and then dividends are issued from the IPO corp.

For the peace of mind of the investors: allow 3 widely trusted persons (trustees) to have director positions in the production corp, give them each 33% shares, and let them lock the BPOs. The only way to release and steal the BPO's is if 2 trustees work together to steal them...

Thomas Blackstar
Posted - 2007.07.14 14:46:00 - [10]
 

I have know Blue Dice for eight months and have worked together in the same Corp all this time. In all my dealings with him he has proven himself to be a man of honor and a man of his word. He is very knowledgable about Eve universe and will be an asset to any alliance with his skills. I wish him the very best now and in the future. :)

Isabella Cross
Posted - 2007.07.14 15:11:00 - [11]
 

I am the Ceo of FWI corp. I have been Ceo for almost 1 year. During that time, Blue has been in my employ. And I would like to give my highest professional and personal recommendation to Blue. although I am sad to see Blue leave my corp, I am pleased to see that he has decided to take a chance to try this on his own.

During the time that Blue has been an FWI'er, he has handled our finances. Blue has help my develop the necessary funds to form an alliance, maintain and develop new programs, such as the ship replacement program for the alliance, and survive 8 high sec wars. There have never been any shortfalls or missing funds. Blue has been a great asset to my corp and I will continue to seek Blue's advice of the financial affairs of my corp and alliance.

For verification of this reference..feel free to conve or eve-mail me in-game. thank you. Smile

Shadarle
Posted - 2007.07.14 16:53:00 - [12]
 

I've had a short discussion with Blue Dice. I promised the 600 mill listed in the sale thread as pre-sold. I like the business idea and it's worth taking the gamble imo.

I can't guarantee Blue won't run away with my money or anyone else's as I have had no history in dealing with Blue. But I just have a gut feeling this will be a good investment.

Calgorac
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.07.23 17:47:00 - [13]
 

I bought 500 shares of this company and look forward to watching it grow :)


Blue Dice
Gallente
Kinley and Dice Technologies
Posted - 2007.07.24 07:50:00 - [14]
 

Thanks for the feedback to all.

Let me give you a short feedback about the operations:

A small part of the production has now been started and trade is slowly taking up (a bit slower than expected but it's comming).
Recruiting has started too and will go on.

I'll be on holliday the first week of august, but after that the corporation will run full speed with a good mineral stack to get some output. It's still hard to estimate the real ROI for the first dividend at the beginning of september but according to production planning for august projection of I estimate it to be at 7% minimum, which is not yet what I aim for, but still not bad for a first month i guess.

Thetis
Caldari
NewDawn
Posted - 2007.09.06 18:19:00 - [15]
 

How is this going? We're in early september, and i've not heard much from you in recent times.

Titus Lewis
Amarr
Suddenly Successful
Posted - 2007.09.08 23:46:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Blue Dice
It's still hard to estimate the real ROI for the first dividend at the beginning of september but according to production planning for august projection of I estimate it to be at 7% minimum, which is not yet what I aim for, but still not bad for a first month i guess.


Was wondering whats going on as well

Strobe S
Posted - 2007.10.26 18:54:00 - [17]
 

Has anyone seen or contacted Blue Dice recently?. Dividends are now well overdue.

Shadarle
Posted - 2007.10.26 19:51:00 - [18]
 

I sent Blue Dice an eve-mail a week ago or so and received no reply as I was wondering what was going on as well.

Hopefully this does not turn out to be a scam.

EBANK Ricdic
Eve-Tech Savings n Loans
Posted - 2007.10.26 20:09:00 - [19]
 

According to eve-search his last post was in the old EBANK thread on

Quote:
Posted - 2007.08.23 10:00:00


Can be seen here if you like.

Have you seen him online at all. I find it quite bizarre that he would leave as I figured him to be far more trustworthy. If he hasn't logged into eve in months it could be that he has had some sort of RL issues.

If you can get in contact with a corpmate or his CEO they can check corp stats to see when he was last online.

Strobe S
Posted - 2007.10.27 09:11:00 - [20]
 

Quote:
Have you seen him online at all. I find it quite bizarre that he would leave as I figured him to be far more trustworthy. If he hasn't logged into eve in months it could be that he has had some sort of RL issues.


I only realised no dividends had been paid when I reviewed my investments. Will have to try and catch him in game.

As you say, hopefully a RL issue.

Ricdic's Hoe
Posted - 2007.10.27 13:45:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Strobe S
As you say, hopefully a RL issue.


Well I don't know if I would hope for that. From an investors sake sure, as long as it's a RL issue like 'pc exploded' and not one of the disturbing and saddening alternatives.

Shin Ra
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2007.10.27 17:25:00 - [22]
 

Come on, are you all seriously that far up in the clouds that you can't realise a scam? Write it off, your isk is gone.

Ricdic's Hoe
Posted - 2007.10.27 19:00:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Shin Ra
Come on, are you all seriously that far up in the clouds that you can't realise a scam? write it off, your isk is gone.


I actually didn't invest, I don't think I had the liquid isk at the time. I can confirm that Blue Dice's corp is no longer in Zzz any more, he was a coupla months ago.

As Ms Ra said, might be time to write this baby off. Shame as we haven't had any scams for quite some time.

SiJira
Posted - 2007.10.27 19:47:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: SiJira on 27/10/2007 20:33:51

i have done detective work and other than a whole lot of nothing and a few emails yet to be answered i found out that blue dice may have been deployed since he is in the army

Shar Tegral
Posted - 2007.10.27 22:36:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: SiJira
i have done detective work and other than a whole lot of nothing and a few emails yet to be answered i found out that blue dice may have been deployed since he is in the army

... or has been abducted by aliens after his dog ate his ipo. Never say "found a whole lot of nothing" and give something as an explanation. The former makes the latter totally worthless.

As to scam or not, don't know. OP never presented the three references as requested, OP didn't get considered by me. Anyone who did buy in was foolish, regardless of where the OP is, in that light.

Also, imho, those two who did speak up for the OP (Isabella Cross and Thomas Blackstar) should be asked if they know anything and/or held just as responsible as the OP. IMHO, you stand up for someone's credibility you take the same weight.

PS: Buying Nanotech shares at 10 isk each. Eve mail me if interested or counter offers. Twisted Evil

SiJira
Posted - 2007.10.27 22:49:00 - [26]
 

Edited by: SiJira on 27/10/2007 22:55:28

no thats what i found out from people that know him IRL and RL emails have been sent so all we can do for now is await more info

i advise against selling shares undervalued

Via Trebona
Posted - 2007.12.31 23:54:00 - [27]
 

Any news on this? Any sign Blue Dice is even still alive?

Shadarle
Posted - 2008.01.01 06:45:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Via Trebona
Any news on this? Any sign Blue Dice is even still alive?


Blue Dice did a disappearing act. Ricdic has the security on this I believe... so I think if you message him he can reimburse you the investment amount.

EBANK Ricdic
Eve-Tech Savings n Loans
Posted - 2008.01.01 07:17:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Shadarle
Originally by: Via Trebona
Any news on this? Any sign Blue Dice is even still alive?


Blue Dice did a disappearing act. Ricdic has the security on this I believe... so I think if you message him he can reimburse you the investment amount.


This baby was unsecured.

Kylar Renpurs
Dusk Blade
Posted - 2008.01.01 12:34:00 - [30]
 

I've only got one interesting point to make here. According to my last update thread, Blue Dice still has 1000 shares in Dusk Blade. Either he forgot about them, or he's using them to collect passive income, in which case people would see him coming online to collect the money.

My point being it doesn't seem like typical scam behaviour to invest in other corporations, it's just too easy to track down if you want to benefit in any way.

For the record, I'm not accusing one of my shareholders as being a scammer, just raising an interesting (well, interesting to me) fact.


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