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Ephemeron
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2007.07.10 05:43:00 - [1]
 

The isk seller spam is getting gradually worse. Some of their bots copy & paste ads every 5 seconds. Do you realize how bad a chat looks when someone copy & pastes the same thing every 5 seconds?

They can be blocked by individual players, but isk sellers made a dozen new chars per day, if not more. And everyone gets exposed. Blocking them is a poor solution. Asking GMs to ban them is good, but GMs are too slow to react when you consider the speed at which these bots spam.

We need a player volunteer department with rights to mute isk selling spam bots. Players can moderate the channels much more efficiently than CCP can, unless CCP hire someone who will spend their entire time monitoring public channels. There is concern that players will abuse this power, but the damage that can be done is minimal, only prevents people from talking in certain channels. And the number of petitions regarding these matters will fall dramatically.

CCP, let well known traders moderate the trade channels. (I can do it too :)

P3109
Posted - 2007.07.10 05:51:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: P3109 on 10/07/2007 05:51:07
i volunteer f9 to moderate the ships channel =D

northwesten
Amarr
Trinity Corporate Services
Terran United Federation
Posted - 2007.07.10 05:53:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Ephemeron
The isk seller spam is getting gradually worse. Some of their bots copy & paste ads every 5 seconds. Do you realize how bad a chat looks when someone copy & pastes the same thing every 5 seconds?

They can be blocked by individual players, but isk sellers made a dozen new chars per day, if not more. And everyone gets exposed. Blocking them is a poor solution. Asking GMs to ban them is good, but GMs are too slow to react when you consider the speed at which these bots spam.

We need a player volunteer department with rights to mute isk selling spam bots. Players can moderate the channels much more efficiently than CCP can, unless CCP hire someone who will spend their entire time monitoring public channels. There is concern that players will abuse this power, but the damage that can be done is minimal, only prevents people from talking in certain channels. And the number of petitions regarding these matters will fall dramatically.

CCP, let well known traders moderate the trade channels. (I can do it too :)


I think its a good idea like ISD!

ArtemisEntreri
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.07.10 05:56:00 - [4]
 

Can of worms etc, people will start muting people they don't like or people that are spamming more then they are.

Jim McGregor
Posted - 2007.07.10 05:59:00 - [5]
 


They could put in a automated block system, but I guess it would get circumvented pretty easily by just making the message slightly different every time so the filter wont trigger.

Its difficult to fix this without manual inspection, and who wants to sit and watch a chat channel all day long for bots? Sounds like the most boring job in the universe.

Dark Shikari
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.07.10 06:00:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: ArtemisEntreri
Can of worms etc, people will start muting people they don't like or people that are spamming more then they are.

Make such a thing result in instant-loss of player muting privileges forever on all accounts.

Ephemeron
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2007.07.10 06:01:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: ArtemisEntreri
Can of worms etc, people will start muting people they don't like or people that are spamming more then they are.
That is possible, but muting someone doesn't hurt them so bad. And petitions regarding this matter will hurt the offender much more. It's not like having your trial account alt banned.

F90OEX
F9X
Posted - 2007.07.10 06:16:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: P3109
Edited by: P3109 on 10/07/2007 05:51:07
i volunteer f9 to moderate the ships channel =D



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Sicil Fioet
Minmatar
Posted - 2007.07.10 07:06:00 - [9]
 

What they need is somebody to be constantly sitting and looking over the trade, recruitment and other channels where this spam get posted. I petition ISK sellers under Harassment now and get response within 1-5 minutes. This means that somebody is sitting there all the time and reading the petitions that are coming in. Could this somebody simply have trade and recruitment channels open at the same time to read the spam and insta-ban ISK sellers? I don't see what difference it makes - sitting reading petitions under Harassment field all day long and just having these channels open at the same time and delivering swift insta-bans to spamming ISK sellers.

LUKEC
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance
Posted - 2007.07.10 08:04:00 - [10]
 

They should follow the isk back to isk generators & ban those.

Dark Shikari
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.07.10 08:19:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: LUKEC
They should follow the isk back to isk generators & ban those.

Then they'd lose the money the farmers are paying in account fees.

Its not like its hard to track the ISK--they use contracts ffs.

Eefrit
Eve Financial Services
Posted - 2007.07.10 08:32:00 - [12]
 

I agree with the op. If CCP were to institute moderators of public channels and one of the moderators just muted someone they did not like, then there would be a log of it and that person could petition CCP about it resulting in the moderator loosing that status.

I for one wish that the public purpose specific trade channels were kept to some sort of basic rules in addition to Isk WTS spams. Blocking is not a suitable solution imho but moderating would be. There are a lot of people who hold a fair amount of public trust as it is and would be willing to do this sort of thing anyway.

CCP, please look into this.

/Eefrit

Shari Vegas
Minmatar
Ctrl Alt Elites
Posted - 2007.07.10 08:52:00 - [13]
 

*snip* Inappropriate. -Elmo Pug

ApaKaka
Lone Starr Corporation
Posted - 2007.07.10 09:06:00 - [14]
 

Just disallow all forms and variants of HTTP links in public channels.
If someone needs to share a link, they can do it in private channels / convos.


Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr
House of El
Posted - 2007.07.10 09:25:00 - [15]
 

Why add all this extra work for CCP, when all you have to do, is ignore the sellers.
Either that, or create a new player created/moderated channel and advertise about it in the public trade channel like the isk sellers. If you can "garantee" isk seller free channel, I bet it will be popular very quickly. The creator just have to give certain players the rights to administrate the channel.

Let CCP work on the technical part of EvE and leave the community to deal with the community Smile

Ephemeron
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2007.07.10 09:40:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes
Let CCP work on the technical part of EvE and leave the community to deal with the community Smile
That's exactly what I'm asking. Community can deal with it better. We just need CCP to give up some responsibility to us

Bizz Lizz
Posted - 2007.07.10 09:49:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Bizz Lizz on 10/07/2007 09:48:41
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: ArtemisEntreri
Can of worms etc, people will start muting people they don't like or people that are spamming more then they are.

Make such a thing result in instant-loss of player muting privileges forever on all accounts.


Yes, hope that some professionals are responsible to investigate those incidents then.
Volunteers policing the wrongdoings of their own mates doesn't work. That's something that I have learned already.

Alrich
Posted - 2007.07.10 10:02:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Bizz Lizz
Edited by: Bizz Lizz on 10/07/2007 09:48:41
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: ArtemisEntreri
Can of worms etc, people will start muting people they don't like or people that are spamming more then they are.

Make such a thing result in instant-loss of player muting privileges forever on all accounts.


Yes, hope that some professionals are responsible to investigate those incidents then.
Volunteers policing the wrongdoings of their own mates doesn't work. That's something that I have learned already.


yea that is like the police investigating the police... they say it was an accident and give him a extra large cristmas bonus because of all the trouble he went through

Ephemeron
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2007.07.10 10:16:00 - [19]
 

I can't believe there are so many paranoics thinking that they gonna get muted by other players in Trade channels.

What the hell is wrong with you?
What is it that you do in trade channel that you fear of being muted?

Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr
House of El
Posted - 2007.07.10 10:54:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Ephemeron
Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes
Let CCP work on the technical part of EvE and leave the community to deal with the community Smile
That's exactly what I'm asking. Community can deal with it better. We just need CCP to give up some responsibility to us


They allready have, afaik. If you create a channel, you are owner of that channel and can moderate other people in that channel.. problem solved (if you can get people to use your channel).

Adaris
E X I U S
Posted - 2007.07.10 12:03:00 - [21]
 

http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=552617

shady trader
Posted - 2007.07.10 20:54:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes
Why add all this extra work for CCP, when all you have to do, is ignore the sellers.
Either that, or create a new player created/moderated channel and advertise about it in the public trade channel like the isk sellers. If you can "garantee" isk seller free channel, I bet it will be popular very quickly. The creator just have to give certain players the rights to administrate the channel.

Let CCP work on the technical part of EvE and leave the community to deal with the community Smile



The problem with that is they seam to monitor the forums and other channels. They have spammed the macrointel channel before know and that was player created. The problem with the player doing the moderated channel the player needs to be online.

Mir Net
Posted - 2007.07.10 21:21:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Bizz Lizz


Yes, hope that some professionals are responsible to investigate those incidents then.
Volunteers policing the wrongdoings of their own mates doesn't work. That's something that I have learned already.


Thats allways been the case.

If you've been around the fps scene, you'll know, admin playing on the server gets the arse because youre droping him from hight, booted, complain, you get nowhere, friend of a friend v's you, it's not even worth bothering with.

In the past this has happen to me over at jolt, and i have little of no faith in such a system working working here.

I don't like the idea of player volunteers policing on any level, friends of friends and liked individuals, it allways comes down to that, adding another tier would make it worseNeutral


DubanFP
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2007.07.10 21:39:00 - [24]
 

I say we trace their IPs and begin to Castrate these guys 1 by one. I mean GOD These guys are breeding! They shouldn't be allowed to dim humanity with their stupidity!

BluOrange
Gallente
The OZ Hunters and Mercenary Association
Black Scope Project
Posted - 2007.07.11 06:06:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: P3109
Edited by: P3109 on 10/07/2007 05:51:07
i volunteer f9 to moderate the ships channel =D


I second the motion!


 

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