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Alexander Knott
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.11.18 16:33:00 - [2641]
 

Originally by: Evlyna
Bumpidoo!

By the way, Gripen is not that dead or inactive, his last post was on November 2. So keep an eye here. Either he's busy or working on it. Don't worry too much, you'll all have your EFT fix soon I suppose.

Wink
Or, he could be busy.

Master Zenor
Posted - 2008.11.18 17:43:00 - [2642]
 

I think Gripen is having to redesign the interface slightly before he can release the QR version. Since he would have to add the information about the certificates, so it checks if you have the recommended certificates for that ship.

Noah Cyril
Posted - 2008.11.18 18:03:00 - [2643]
 

I rather he do the QR patch ASAP first then move on to the cert, since they r not a must

Legowan Wealson
Caldari
GREY COUNCIL
Imorral Dragons
Posted - 2008.11.18 19:36:00 - [2644]
 

If you didn't notice, the QR patch actually changed some mechanics like how missile damage is applied. So it's not simply a matter of plugging in the updated data dump, the only way to derive the new formulas is to do a bunch of testing ingame.

Give Gripen a rest and some credit, he has done a tremendous amount of free work for the community already and even if he decided to scrap EFT we'd all still owe him beers for all he's done so far.

Foocurr
Posted - 2008.11.18 19:41:00 - [2645]
 

The best thing to do is send Gripen some isk and wait patiently.

Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
Posted - 2008.11.18 21:34:00 - [2646]
 

Originally by: Master Zenor
I think Gripen is having to redesign the interface slightly before he can release the QR version. Since he would have to add the information about the certificates, so it checks if you have the recommended certificates for that ship.

What the point to ever think about implementing certificates? they are redundant in the area of EFT.
Affecting nothing of and doing nothing for ship fitting.

Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
Posted - 2008.11.18 21:37:00 - [2647]
 

Originally by: Legowan Wealson
If you didn't notice, the QR patch actually changed some mechanics like how missile damage is applied.


It wasn't been taken into account ever, at least not in the fitting screen.
Could be some issues in tracking simulation, and I agree it's of low priority for majority of players... but... it's up to Gripen if he ever decide to release new version or not.

Cade Morrigan
Caldari
Posted - 2008.11.19 03:05:00 - [2648]
 

Originally by: Tonto Auri
Originally by: Master Zenor
I think Gripen is having to redesign the interface slightly before he can release the QR version. Since he would have to add the information about the certificates, so it checks if you have the recommended certificates for that ship.

What the point to ever think about implementing certificates? they are redundant in the area of EFT.
Affecting nothing of and doing nothing for ship fitting.

Yeah certs are more the realm of EveMon, if anything.

McFly
Peanut Factory
Posted - 2008.11.19 05:05:00 - [2649]
 

I LOVE EFT.... but, for those of u have not noticed or dont use it. EVE HQ has a ship fitter with the new datadump. Sadly however I've not figured out a way to apply gang bonuses in EveHQ's fitting tool. But for the time being it's been an alright substitute. Here's the link....

Linkage

SonoA
Gallente
Posted - 2008.11.19 07:14:00 - [2650]
 

Originally by: McFly
I LOVE EFT.... but, for those of u have not noticed or dont use it. EVE HQ has a ship fitter with the new datadump. Sadly however I've not figured out a way to apply gang bonuses in EveHQ's fitting tool. But for the time being it's been an alright substitute. Here's the link....

Linkage
Thanks for the Tip

Moresco
I.D.I.O.T.
Sev3rance
Posted - 2008.11.19 10:46:00 - [2651]
 

I'm sure Gripen will be finished with QR EFT soon. But it would be fine if he can write some words like "yes, iam working on it. Just wat a few days" or "i don't have time for the moment."

NRUSSIAN
Posted - 2008.11.19 11:49:00 - [2652]
 

I like EFT and we waiting for new version.
Thanks to Gripen for good tool ...

Hikaru Sulu
Caldari
Black Legion Industries
Posted - 2008.11.19 12:00:00 - [2653]
 

Can I move once again that someone sticky this thread? Seriously, mods, stickies.

On another note, I agreez with people whose advice has been to send isk and wait patiently. I've contributed to the cause, everyone else should too.

Athelas Loraiel
Amarr
StarFleet Enterprises
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2008.11.19 12:47:00 - [2654]
 

Thank you so much for this tool.
Id like to give you a Pay pal donation for your hard work, since I hate oto part with hard earn EVE cash (LOL).

anyway, mail me data in game and Ill send some $.
If everyone using it would give at least 1 $ per paypal, hed be a lucky man.
also, whats the status for new patch?

ChangWufei
Red Federation
Posted - 2008.11.19 15:41:00 - [2655]
 

Originally by: McFly
I LOVE EFT.... but, for those of u have not noticed or dont use it. EVE HQ has a ship fitter with the new datadump. Sadly however I've not figured out a way to apply gang bonuses in EveHQ's fitting tool. But for the time being it's been an alright substitute. Here's the link....

Linkage


EVE HQ is pretty buggy though. Has crashed for me several times and many mods/ships don't seem to be working properly at all. Even mods which have the stats correct in the show info box's still aren't changing the ships projected stats as they should. Gripen will come through as always hehe.

Heavy MG
Paxton Industries
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2008.11.19 17:37:00 - [2656]
 

Originally by: ChangWufei


EVE HQ is pretty buggy though. Has crashed for me several times and many mods/ships don't seem to be working properly at all. Even mods which have the stats correct in the show info box's still aren't changing the ships projected stats as they should. Gripen will come through as always hehe.


I will confirm the buggy/uselessness. Some mods and scripts simply don't effect the stats.

Mdram
Caldari
Point of No Return
Posted - 2008.11.19 18:32:00 - [2657]
 

if youvr tried evehq and found bugs, please report them so they can be fixed. you usually get answer quickly

Jenny Law
Posted - 2008.11.20 11:16:00 - [2658]
 

love to this program.

Darkeen
Gallente
Posted - 2008.11.20 11:23:00 - [2659]
 

Edited by: Darkeen on 20/11/2008 11:25:49
HI,

Noop question here...

Is there a help file (or a possibility to get an updated help file) with descriptions of the details:

ie I know what DPS is but I dont know what Volley is...
Since there isnt a search facility, can anyone tell me what volley is?

Thanx.

Mona X
Caldari
Missions Mining and Mayhem
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.11.20 11:48:00 - [2660]
 


Karad Forsky
Caldari
Posted - 2008.11.20 11:48:00 - [2661]
 

Originally by: Darkeen
ie I know what DPS is but I dont know what Volley is...


Exactly what is sounds like - i.e. the total damage your guns or launchers do when they all hit the target simultaneously (alpha strike).

Raimo
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2008.11.20 12:11:00 - [2662]
 

I'd like to also extend my gratitude to Gripen for providing us with the wonderfully handy tool that is EFT.

However, I like many others am eager to hear some update of when we could expect a fully QR- compliant version... TBH in times of major overhaul like this I do wish that the updating of the app was not dependent on one person but it obviously is his creation and he does like he wishes. ATM I can fit stuff ok with the speedpatch data and most things work like expected on TQ but it would still be great to get totally accurate stats...

I will do like someone suggested and make a modest ISK donation, he does indeed deserve it!

Jack Gilligan
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.11.20 15:12:00 - [2663]
 

Haven't used this in awhile, just d/l'ed the new version today, and I have to say I am astounded at the upgrades in the last 3 months.

Fabulous job, Gripen!

Aravandor
Posted - 2008.11.20 19:01:00 - [2664]
 

Gripen has done some amazing work on EFT and he's devoted a lot of time to it, I agree. It's an excellent utility and very accurate. I do wish that he'd change to a development/distribution model that would allow him to work corraboratively in developing and maintaining it though. As a programmer myself, I can imagine the hours that went into making EFT. I can also understand why he might not want to just release the fruits of that labor to anyone and everyone. I wish he would charge for it instead. Maybe that income could be used to organize a project to maintain EFT. If nothing else, it would represent a concrete incentive. I know that it would be pirated, but there are still some carebears left IRL... Every day I play Eve without it, I feel like I'm flying blind.

So thanks to Gripen for all his hard work, but please think about trying to establish some kind of team to share the burden. I'm no Dijkstra, but I'd be the first one to sign up! And there's got to be plenty of programmers out there who would love to help as well. EFT is reward enough in itself.

Aravandor
Posted - 2008.11.20 19:05:00 - [2665]
 

Originally by: Aravandor
Gripen has done some amazing work on EFT and he's devoted a lot of time to it, I agree. It's an excellent utility and very accurate. I do wish that he'd change to a development/distribution model that would allow him to work corraboratively in developing and maintaining it though. As a programmer myself, I can imagine the hours that went into making EFT. I can also understand why he might not want to just release the fruits of that labor to anyone and everyone. I wish he would charge for it instead. Maybe that income could be used to organize a project to maintain EFT. If nothing else, it would represent a concrete incentive. I know that it would be pirated, but there are still some carebears left IRL... Every day I play Eve without it, I feel like I'm flying blind.

So thanks to Gripen for all his hard work, but please think about trying to establish some kind of team to share the burden. I'm no Dijkstra, but I'd be the first one to sign up! And there's got to be plenty of programmers out there who would love to help as well. EFT is reward enough in itself.


"corraboratively" = "collaboratively" - I'm not as think as you illiterate I am.

Jonak
Gallente
Posted - 2008.11.20 21:20:00 - [2666]
 

So a new version has been released?

Darkeen
Gallente
Posted - 2008.11.20 21:35:00 - [2667]
 

Originally by: Karad Forsky
Originally by: Darkeen
ie I know what DPS is but I dont know what Volley is...


Exactly what is sounds like - i.e. the total damage your guns or launchers do when they all hit the target simultaneously (alpha strike).


Thanks Klarad (and Thanks Mona).

Thats what I thought but I was getting confused as DPS was adding up all the damage form the guns when selected. I forgot that the volley broken down into a per second damage would be the DPS...

Thanks, its clarified it for me!

Arthur Guinness
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
Posted - 2008.11.20 23:30:00 - [2668]
 

Originally by: Jonak
So a new version has been released?

Think he means 2.8.1. which is "new" to him. As far as I know the QR version hasn't been released yet. Can't wait for it though...

Darcha
Dark Production Industries
Posted - 2008.11.20 23:48:00 - [2669]
 

EFT is still my favourite by far and I hope it will still be updated.

EveHQ isn't bad......but it just doesn't work.....not like EFT.

Staticslash
Posted - 2008.11.21 01:30:00 - [2670]
 

Is there a version of EFT for Mac ?? or any skill & loadout planner for Mac ??
someone must have designed one by now......


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