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long RND1
Posted - 2008.11.17 13:39:00 - [2611]
 

Originally by: Arthas Wallace
Originally by: Neddy Fox
How hard is it for everyone to understand that EFT will not be updated until CCP releases its database ?

Gripen can't do anything without that.


Why EveMon is already updated then?



EFT uses a lot more data from that Db then EveMon. Don't push it - I'm doing some dev myself using the eve db and i know how difficult it is to support something like EFt without the actual data!

Katja Saitou
Posted - 2008.11.17 13:48:00 - [2612]
 

Originally by: Neddy Fox
How hard is it for everyone to understand that EFT will not be updated until CCP releases its database ?
Gripen can't do anything without that.


The database has been out for 4 days or so Very Happy
And other programs have been updated already..

Could be that Gripen is on vacation or something else along those lines Very Happy

FullMetal Basilisk
Minmatar
The Naked Peas Group Plc.
Posted - 2008.11.17 14:47:00 - [2613]
 

Originally by: long RND1
Originally by: Arthas Wallace
Originally by: Neddy Fox
How hard is it for everyone to understand that EFT will not be updated until CCP releases its database ?

Gripen can't do anything without that.


Why EveMon is already updated then?



EFT uses a lot more data from that Db then EveMon. Don't push it - I'm doing some dev myself using the eve db and i know how difficult it is to support something like EFt without the actual data!


ah kk, didn't realise that.

we need eft.....brain....diminishing.....becoming.....monkey......need....banan...aphone

YoYo LaBelle
Posted - 2008.11.17 15:22:00 - [2614]
 

When I run with the "/DataDir Data_SpeedPatch" I am unable to import any character information. I get an access violation, although the program seems to continue to function. Anyone else having this issue?

Arthur Guinness
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
Posted - 2008.11.17 16:35:00 - [2615]
 

This worries me a little. I'm sure he'll get it updated when he gets the time, but is it possible for anyone else to take over updating EFT if Gripen ever get's tired of messing with it? Would suck for real life to remove his Eve time and cause EFT to die.

Mithrilo
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2008.11.17 16:37:00 - [2616]
 

Originally by: YoYo LaBelle
When I run with the "/DataDir Data_SpeedPatch" I am unable to import any character information. I get an access violation, although the program seems to continue to function. Anyone else having this issue?


Yeah, I have it same. But I would not worry about it, you can update your character without speed data and restart EFT with them later. Aside of it, as we expect new version soon, it is marginal issue.

Cade Morrigan
Caldari
Posted - 2008.11.17 17:03:00 - [2617]
 

Originally by: YoYo LaBelle
When I run with the "/DataDir Data_SpeedPatch" I am unable to import any character information. I get an access violation, although the program seems to continue to function. Anyone else having this issue?

I just made a new character and it imported via key just fine.

Sebea
Sniggerdly
Posted - 2008.11.17 20:05:00 - [2618]
 

Originally by: Arthas Wallace


Why EveMon is already updated then?
Why Gripen doesn't say anything about the future update? There will still be one? Im not giving isk in advance...
By the way, having EFT before your enemies, right after a great update like this one is a good advantage IMO...


I hope he gives it to everybody BUT you, just because of your splendid attitude.

NoNah
Posted - 2008.11.17 20:35:00 - [2619]
 

Originally by: Arthas Wallace
Originally by: Neddy Fox
How hard is it for everyone to understand that EFT will not be updated until CCP releases its database ?

Gripen can't do anything without that.


Why EveMon is already updated then?
Why Gripen doesn't say anything about the future update? There will still be one? Im not giving isk in advance...
By the way, having EFT before your enemies, right after a great update like this one is a good advantage IMO...


It is, hence he shouldn't release it for a few weeks even after the dbdump is out. And why don't you update it yourself? Don't try to claim customer rights for a free product without any real competition. Donate for what you've got, for him doing the community a great service, and do it when you feel like he's worth it. But don't whine at random people for not having fullfilled your dreams.

Aaspa
Echolalia.
Shangri-La.
Posted - 2008.11.17 21:34:00 - [2620]
 

Originally by: NoNah
Originally by: Arthas Wallace
Originally by: Neddy Fox
How hard is it for everyone to understand that EFT will not be updated until CCP releases its database ?

Gripen can't do anything without that.


Why EveMon is already updated then?
Why Gripen doesn't say anything about the future update? There will still be one? Im not giving isk in advance...
By the way, having EFT before your enemies, right after a great update like this one is a good advantage IMO...


It is, hence he shouldn't release it for a few weeks even after the dbdump is out. And why don't you update it yourself? Don't try to claim customer rights for a free product without any real competition. Donate for what you've got, for him doing the community a great service, and do it when you feel like he's worth it. But don't whine at random people for not having fullfilled your dreams.


Is it possible to update it by my own?

Just wondering...

Rilwar
BlackStar Industrial
Posted - 2008.11.17 21:57:00 - [2621]
 

No, it isn't. EFT Isn't open source, and isn't planned to be.

Quote that magical little FAQ.txt that comes with EFT \o/

Capt Blak
Caldari
Nomad LLP
Black Sun Alliance
Posted - 2008.11.17 22:16:00 - [2622]
 

Well EFT isnt working and found a post in here from someone else and i checked it out. And in short is it purely leet. Its EFT/EveMon/Assets and more all into one. And its up to date with current QR patch, maybe check it out till you get EFT back.

http://www.evehq.net/news.php

That scammer guy (derty joe) real tool, he stole my isk and my wife!

Arthur Guinness
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
Posted - 2008.11.18 02:15:00 - [2623]
 

I honestly wish Gripen would start charging real money for EFT. Not an exorbitant amount, but enough to make it worthwhile to keep developing it, and enough to keep every single Eve player from having a copy. There would of course be those that would refuse to pay, making it better for those that did.

Gripen, charge something so you can profit from such a great tool. Buy yourself a god-like computer or pay off all your bills with the profits. Very Happy

I'd definitely pay for EFT.

NoNah
Posted - 2008.11.18 02:20:00 - [2624]
 

Originally by: Aaspa

Is it possible to update it by my own?

Just wondering...


In theory, yes, it is. But... it's not constructed to be possible and it's basically unrealisticly cumbersome to do. Most cases you'd be better of making your own version of it, especially out of respect.

Overbrain
Posted - 2008.11.18 03:17:00 - [2625]
 

Mann, this EveHQ software is terrible , i wanted to give it a try but i totaly got lost within and after minutes i was able to create a character but then it threw up an error and i just uninstalled it .

Gotta wait for eft update...Rolling Eyes

Iracham
Gallente
Posted - 2008.11.18 04:06:00 - [2626]
 

Originally by: Arthur Guinness
I honestly wish Gripen would start charging real money for EFT. Not an exorbitant amount, but enough to make it worthwhile to keep developing it, and enough to keep every single Eve player from having a copy. There would of course be those that would refuse to pay, making it better for those that did.

Gripen, charge something so you can profit from such a great tool. Buy yourself a god-like computer or pay off all your bills with the profits. Very Happy

I'd definitely pay for EFT.


I would too, but within 20 minutes it'd be uploaded to a half dozen torrent sites YARRRR!!

Balgorad
Posted - 2008.11.18 07:53:00 - [2627]
 

Hmmm.. let's see... A guy takes serious time off his RL to build something he wants to provide for free and people are beginning to grumble that he's not doing it fast enough. The next thing I guess is demanding that he quits his job, abandons his wife and children and start building us a better EFT client, cause this one's graphic environment is not 3D and the fonts and colours are dull. Maybe in the future we can complain that he only works for this 18 hours a day, when clearly the day has 24 hours.

EFT is free and great. Gripen should be made into a statue to be worshiped by all of the hard-core number-fiddlers out there. You have no right whatsoever to complain about anything, even if the next version has a vocal interface that swears at you every time you click on something. It's free for pete's sake!

Balgorad, who wishes there was a greater power to smite down upon the ungrateful

Zahgurim
Posted - 2008.11.18 09:30:00 - [2628]
 

Originally by: Overbrain
Mann, this EveHQ software is terrible , i wanted to give it a try but i totaly got lost within and after minutes i was able to create a character but then it threw up an error and i just uninstalled it .

Gotta wait for eft update...Rolling Eyes


it's not so easy to understand like EFT, but with a bit of time, it's a great tool... i wait for the eft update, then compare EFT and EVEHQ, and if the values are equal, well, then i think, i switch to EVEHQ... but only cause there are more features then in EFT :)

if the values are different, then i come back to EFT, which i trust more at the moment (cause the values are different between actual EVEHQ and the old EFT Wink)

Evlyna
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
Posted - 2008.11.18 09:39:00 - [2629]
 

Bumpidoo!

By the way, Gripen is not that dead or inactive, his last post was on November 2. So keep an eye here. Either he's busy or working on it. Don't worry too much, you'll all have your EFT fix soon I suppose.

Wink

Keitaro Baka
Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises
Babylon Project
Posted - 2008.11.18 09:58:00 - [2630]
 

Trolling removed. Navigator

X1376
Caldari
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.11.18 10:51:00 - [2631]
 

I just wonder why CCP did not created such application themselves already, many people spent more time in EFT as in game for sure. I would say that next EFT is anticipated more as was the QR patch itself.

@Keitaro: Use that organ hidden in your skull between ears. Most of us use EFT when we cannot log online or need validate fitting needs in the release build, not in the testbed where parameters can be different. :P

Ka Jolo
The Tuskers
Posted - 2008.11.18 12:42:00 - [2632]
 

Originally by: Balgorad
Hmmm.. let's see... A guy takes serious time off his RL to build something he wants to provide for free and people are beginning to grumble that he's not doing it fast enough. The next thing I guess is demanding that he quits his job, abandons his wife and children and start building us a better EFT client, cause this one's graphic environment is not 3D and the fonts and colours are dull.


Now as you mention in...

I want Girplan to make EFT so it checks my skillpoints, wallet and hangars, consults my kills and losses on BattleClinic, then recommends ships and fitouts for a variety of purposes, not only for now but also what I should be training for next, allowing me to export a plan to EVEMon. Then if it could log into EVE and totally solowtfpwn other pilots, that would be great. Finally, it should be able to post on these forums, causing other players to drop their mouths in awe at my uberness.

Yeah, that's the ticket!

Squably
Minmatar
Invenio Inceptum
Posted - 2008.11.18 13:10:00 - [2633]
 

/bump

when? when? when?

Cpt Cosmic
Posted - 2008.11.18 13:17:00 - [2634]
 

I hope ccp will take this good example from gripen and introduce such a tool by themself.

Posidrive
UNSOL HEAVY INDUSTRIES
Posted - 2008.11.18 13:29:00 - [2635]
 

Originally by: Ka Jolo
Originally by: Balgorad
Hmmm.. let's see... A guy takes serious time off his RL to build something he wants to provide for free and people are beginning to grumble that he's not doing it fast enough. The next thing I guess is demanding that he quits his job, abandons his wife and children and start building us a better EFT client, cause this one's graphic environment is not 3D and the fonts and colours are dull.


Now as you mention in...

I want Girplan to make EFT so it checks my skillpoints, wallet and hangars, consults my kills and losses on BattleClinic, then recommends ships and fitouts for a variety of purposes, not only for now but also what I should be training for next, allowing me to export a plan to EVEMon. Then if it could log into EVE and totally solowtfpwn other pilots, that would be great. Finally, it should be able to post on these forums, causing other players to drop their mouths in awe at my uberness.

Yeah, that's the ticket!



Do you think it would bring up a cup of tea once it has finished now that really would make my day Cool

I know nothng of the data dump you speak of but is it this

http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=920918

Tryptic Photon
Gallente
Mad Bads
Posted - 2008.11.18 14:00:00 - [2636]
 

Originally by: Balgorad
EFT is free and great. Gripen should be made into a statue to be worshiped by all of the hard-core number-fiddlers out there.


This. ^^ Srsly.

Noah Cyril
Posted - 2008.11.18 15:23:00 - [2637]
 

Originally by: Cpt Cosmic
I hope ccp will take this good example from gripen and introduce such a tool by themself.


Why would CCP do it when some 1 ells is alraedy doing it for them for free =p

RealRancor
Gallente
Rim Collection RC
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2008.11.18 15:37:00 - [2638]
 

Edited by: RealRancor on 18/11/2008 15:36:54
Originally by: RealRancor

I hope this wasn't posted before:

There is an small bug in the interceptor ships, you need Evasive Maneuvering on Lvl5 but EFT doesn't show this...


And another Bug: The Light Ion Blaster II requires Small Hybrid Turret V, not Small Hybrid Turret IV...

http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/EN/shipequipment/turretsbays/hybridturrets/blasters/small/3170.asp

YoYo LaBelle
Posted - 2008.11.18 16:32:00 - [2639]
 

Edited by: YoYo LaBelle on 18/11/2008 16:32:44
This EveHQ program looks pretty rockin' except that it crashes a lot. If that were fixed, it would be a very good application. The shipfit portion seems to be taken almost exactly from EFT. Of course, I can't recall the last time EFT crashed...

Noah Cyril
Posted - 2008.11.18 16:32:00 - [2640]
 

Originally by: RealRancor
Edited by: RealRancor on 18/11/2008 15:36:54
Originally by: RealRancor

I hope this wasn't posted before:

There is an small bug in the interceptor ships, you need Evasive Maneuvering on Lvl5 but EFT doesn't show this...


And another Bug: The Light Ion Blaster II requires Small Hybrid Turret V, not Small Hybrid Turret IV...

http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/EN/shipequipment/turretsbays/hybridturrets/blasters/small/3170.asp


Is not a bug, the skill shows on the EFT is the primary, so the requires for for light ion baster II needs IV, but is the light blaster spec(which is shown in EFT that is needed) that need small hybrid V to train, which is inclued in the skill requirement.


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