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VanuLancer
Autistic Sharks
Posted - 2007.06.27 21:12:00 - [1]
 

Firstly my apologies not on topic for this forum but this NEEDS to be seen by as many UK residents as possible and I'm guessing there's terms saying no political discussions etc but again this is extremely important for everyone in the UK.


Contact your MP today and tell them to put forward a motion for a referendum on the new EU 'treaty' which is essentially the same as the constitution that got slammed by the French and Dutch(?) no vote last year.

We were PROMISED this by all political parties at the last general election and almost 100% of MPs, the fact that Gordon Brown has decided it's not necessary makes it all the more important we have this! At the very least they've lied to us (who'd of thunk it of politicians?) at the worst they've handed over sovereign power to Brussels.

Here's some info, turn off the music its terrible All you need to know about the EU 'Treaty' in 4 minutes

Do you want to have your rights dictated to you by Eurocrats in Brussels that are not democratically elected?

I'm not usually into politics but this has got me more than a little worked up.

Again my apologies if this is not allowable in general disco please at least keep it in out of pod

Quilan Ziller
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2007.06.27 21:14:00 - [2]
 

WTF ?

Dead Inside
Corp of the Dead
Posted - 2007.06.27 21:16:00 - [3]
 

1st page of an epic thread...
m8 honestly...Rolling Eyes

Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
Posted - 2007.06.27 21:18:00 - [4]
 

I am posting in advance of the closing of this topic.

Cornelius Murphy
Intergalactic Peace Organization
Arcane Alliance
Posted - 2007.06.27 21:19:00 - [5]
 

Democracy doesn't exist. If voting was useful it would be banned Wink

The UK is going down the pan, I myself am currently studying Spanish, and plan to move there asap because of this.

The government will not listen, and Gordon "pickpocket" Brown will be no better!

Cypherous
Minmatar
Lions of Judah Incorporated
Posted - 2007.06.27 21:20:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Cypherous on 27/06/2007 21:21:59
Edited by: Cypherous on 27/06/2007 21:18:55
IBTL ^^

Oh and IBDS :P

After looking at the video (nice music btw) i got bored half way through and decided i didn't care because i do as i want anyway :)

Ebil Edna
Posted - 2007.06.27 21:47:00 - [7]
 

Those of you with a brain will have noticed that the video is from the UKIP, a far right fringe party dedicated to keeping Britain out of the EU and keeping "johnny foreigner" out of Britain. The party was led for a while by the perpetually bright orange skinned moron Kilroy-Silk.

Why not search UKIP on Google to find what a joke they are? If you can't be bothered, here's just one reason not to believe anything these jokers say:
http://ukipwatch.org/
Fantastic election video showing the threat Britain faces from flying saucers from Belgium.

IThere's no way you can trust what these fools try and tell you. Please close this thread.

Cammulos
Shadow Of The Light
R i s e
Posted - 2007.06.27 21:48:00 - [8]
 

Maybe you guys will get lucky like us and find yourselves a G.W. Bush to run the show for awhile. Twisted Evil

Ask Unbeatable
Krazny Oktyabr Revolyutsiya
Posted - 2007.06.27 21:50:00 - [9]
 

I once ate a baby

VanuLancer
Autistic Sharks
Posted - 2007.06.27 22:00:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Ebil Edna
Those of you with a brain will have noticed that the video is from the UKIP, a far right fringe party dedicated to keeping Britain out of the EU and keeping "johnny foreigner" out of Britain. The party was led for a while by the perpetually bright orange skinned moron Kilroy-Silk.

Why not search UKIP on Google to find what a joke they are? If you can't be bothered, here's just one reason not to believe anything these jokers say:
http://ukipwatch.org/
Fantastic election video showing the threat Britain faces from flying saucers from Belgium.

IThere's no way you can trust what these fools try and tell you. Please close this thread.


Biased, yes most probably but where's your counter to what was shown in the video?

Or are you just going to attack that party instead of the message?

One of the supposed points of the constitution was further opening up of free trading, well the French have managed to KEEP the protection for their farmers, you think that is the only thing that's changed?

Like I said it's also the principle of not even being given the vote on it after being 'guaranteed' we would by every political party.

So you are perfectly happy for your elected representatives (who only hold power temporarily) to then defer that power to a foreign assembly PERMANENTLY?

What amazing benefits are we to gain by 'intregrating' even more into Europe than we already have? More laws, more taxes, fewer rights?

Sounds great.

Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente
Shadow Templars
Posted - 2007.06.27 22:01:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: VanuLancer
Firstly my apologies not on topic for this forum but this NEEDS to be seen by as many UK residents as possible and I'm guessing there's terms saying no political discussions etc but again this is extremely important for everyone in the UK.


Contact your MP today and tell them to put forward a motion for a referendum on the new EU 'treaty' which is essentially the same as the constitution that got slammed by the French and Dutch(?) no vote last year.

We were PROMISED this by all political parties at the last general election and almost 100% of MPs, the fact that Gordon Brown has decided it's not necessary makes it all the more important we have this! At the very least they've lied to us (who'd of thunk it of politicians?) at the worst they've handed over sovereign power to Brussels.

Here's some info, turn off the music its terrible All you need to know about the EU 'Treaty' in 4 minutes

Do you want to have your rights dictated to you by Eurocrats in Brussels that are not democratically elected?

I'm not usually into politics but this has got me more than a little worked up.

Again my apologies if this is not allowable in general disco please at least keep it in out of pod




Politics are not allowed on the forums. so please take it somewhere else.

Besides, I have no clue whatsoever you are trying to say. And all politicans lie. Someone just goes a little further then the norm.


Stitcher
Caldari
Posted - 2007.06.27 22:02:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Stitcher on 27/06/2007 22:02:47
first, there's an off-topic forum for this stuff.

Second: the UK wins out entirely in this treaty. the vast majority of its terms work strongly in favour of Great Britain. So what if the Dutch and French slammed it?

This treaty takes absolutely no power away from the UK to govern itself. There is no central European government being founded, individual member countries will continue to be self-governing, and in the meantime we benefit considerably.

So I really fail to see why I should petition to my MP about this. As far as I can tell, this treaty is a Good Thing. I'm not in the habit of complaining about Good Things.

Edit: IBTL

Congzilla
Project Gemini
Posted - 2007.06.27 22:02:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Cornelius Murphy
Democracy doesn't exist. If voting was useful it would be banned Wink

The UK is going down the pan, I myself am currently studying Spanish, and plan to move there asap because of this.

The government will not listen, and Gordon "pickpocket" Brown will be no better!


Why would the people who make money off elections rely on dumb voters. Deciding who becomes president is best left to electoral colleges, any idiot knows that. Rolling Eyes

/sarcasm

Gavriel Black
Posted - 2007.06.27 22:03:00 - [14]
 

awesome, got in before the lock wooo!

but i understand you, i feel the same way.

VanuLancer
Autistic Sharks
Posted - 2007.06.27 22:09:00 - [15]
 

Hmm perhaps the Daily Torygraph is more acceptable a source of some info, nice reading some of the comments too, lots of people out there picking up nice little bits of information.

Daily Telegraph

Infact at this time you can see a post with some quotes from various European leaders saying it's essentially the same document.

Dark Shikari
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.06.27 22:17:00 - [16]
 

Wrong board, and against the rules; good job! Laughing

Chrisb6122
Gallente
Reikoku
Posted - 2007.06.27 22:19:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Ask Unbeatable
I once ate a baby


how'de it taste?

Santa Anna
Caldari
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
Posted - 2007.06.27 22:22:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: VanuLancer

So you are perfectly happy for your elected representatives (who only hold power temporarily) to then defer that power to a foreign assembly PERMANENTLY?


No transfer of political power is permanent.

Besides, if you don't like the terms of a treaty, just ignore the ones you don't like. Works fine for the US.

Destiny Calling
Amarr
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.06.27 22:22:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Destiny Calling on 27/06/2007 22:21:37
Conservative with a capital C, Daily Telegraph reading and prohunting, so naturaly at the first sign of a Euro Invasion, I'll tug my forlocks and mumble God Save the Queen as I step into the breach.....

but this is Eve, so confine yourself to the tabloids and other such forums with your non eve stuff, we come here to escape,

well not everyone escapes YARRRR!!




fazeley
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
Posted - 2007.06.27 22:23:00 - [20]
 

I play eve to escape crap like this - thanks for bringing it up.

Go stand on a box in speakers corner with the other mentalists if you care that much.

Frug
Omega Wing
Snatch Victory
Posted - 2007.06.27 22:25:00 - [21]
 

Please give me ISK.

Lucus Ranger
Gallente
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2007.06.27 22:25:00 - [22]
 

*Sigh*

Kweel Nakashyn
shadow and cloaking
Yggdrasill.
Posted - 2007.06.27 22:39:00 - [23]
 

Oh my god, brits awakes now.
Too bad this thread will be closed soon, I'm not sure if CCP allows off topics thread like this.

Estel Arador
Posted - 2007.06.27 22:41:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: VanuLancer
All you need to know about the EU 'Treaty' in 4 minutes


It's not all you need to know. In fact, the information provided is useless.
Useful information would be a comparison between the current state of affairs and the one after the treaty comes into effect. Many things mentioned in the video are already in force due to previous treaties.

Hannobaal
Gallente
Punic Corp.
Posted - 2007.06.27 22:43:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Chrisb6122
Originally by: Ask Unbeatable
I once ate a baby


how'de it taste?


Obviously it must have tasted like chicken.

VanuLancer
Autistic Sharks
Posted - 2007.06.27 22:44:00 - [26]
 

All you need to know to want to find out how many other things are included in it...

Plus a comparison between old constitution and new 'treaty'

Comparison

AegriSomnia
Caldari
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.06.27 22:44:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: AegriSomnia on 27/06/2007 22:43:46
We are losing. The control grid is in place. You have no choice. You have no voice. Do not try to leave the system or remove your self from the matrix as you will be eliminated or reprocessed and reassimilated back into the system through mood altering psychotropic drugs.

This is about control. This is about protection. This is not an option.

The EU has been around for 50 years. You just didnt know it. Soon, the USA will lose all sovreignity to the North American Union, as evidenced by the tremendously unpopular amnesty bill that most Americans disapprove of, yet WILL be passed in one week. Gauranteed. The dollar will be replaced by the Amero.

Just Google it.
NAU, Amero, PNAC.









One more thing.........IBTL!!!!!!!

Santa Anna
Caldari
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
Posted - 2007.06.27 22:48:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: AegriSomnia
Edited by: AegriSomnia on 27/06/2007 22:43:46
We are losing. The control grid is in place. You have no choice. You have no voice. Do not try to leave the system or remove your self from the matrix as you will be eliminated or reprocessed and reassimilated back into the system through mood altering psychotropic drugs.

This is about control. This is about protection. This is not an option.

The EU has been around for 50 years. You just didnt know it. Soon, the USA will lose all sovreignity to the North American Union, as evidenced by the tremendously unpopular amnesty bill that most Americans disapprove of, yet WILL be passed in one week. Gauranteed. The dollar will be replaced by the Amero.

Just Google it.
NAU, Amero, PNAC.









One more thing.........IBTL!!!!!!!


Hm. I thought this was a joke post, but GIS of Amero and PNAC returns no ****.

Spoon Thumb
Khanid Provincial Vanguard
Vanguard Imperium
Posted - 2007.06.27 22:50:00 - [29]
 


Oh God, I just realised I know this person Wink

AegriSomnia
Caldari
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.06.27 22:53:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Santa Anna
Originally by: AegriSomnia
Edited by: AegriSomnia on 27/06/2007 22:43:46
We are losing. The control grid is in place. You have no choice. You have no voice. Do not try to leave the system or remove your self from the matrix as you will be eliminated or reprocessed and reassimilated back into the system through mood altering psychotropic drugs.

This is about control. This is about protection. This is not an option.

The EU has been around for 50 years. You just didnt know it. Soon, the USA will lose all sovreignity to the North American Union, as evidenced by the tremendously unpopular amnesty bill that most Americans disapprove of, yet WILL be passed in one week. Gauranteed. The dollar will be replaced by the Amero.

Just Google it.
NAU, Amero, PNAC.









One more thing.........IBTL!!!!!!!


Hm. I thought this was a joke post, but GIS of Amero and PNAC returns no ****.


Sure it does, i just checked. Here, lemme make it easy.

PNAC
http://www.newamericancentury.org/

Amero
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_currency_union

Maybe, check your spelling?


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