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Zemeckis R
Posted - 2007.06.22 19:41:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Zemeckis R on 22/06/2007 19:41:23
Edited by: Zemeckis R on 22/06/2007 19:40:47
edit: spelling

ok the subject is a bit rude and provocative, eve is the best mmorpg i've ever played... but...
...basically there's something really wrong: the skill system

ok ok before you start a flame... let me explain
i love this kind of skilling system, and i don't want it to change and i'm not here to ask for this

what i want to say is that according to eve i can learn how to fly a spaceship... simply sitting on a chair reading a book......

yeah this is the point
nothing else matter, but book reading
what is wrong with this?
well... for example: how do you learn how to drive a car?
you can read all the book you wish, you can study and become an engineer... but if you don't get a car and make some practise... you will never learn
this is just a little example, but applicable to anything else

and to all the people thinking that eve is so different from World of warcraft: yes, in wow you have to farm to grow up, in eve you can never play and get a 40 million sp, a specialized fighter or miner or anything you wish
but... you have to farm to make money: you can have all the sp you want, but they are completely useless without money

so again: the one that can play more is the one that can play better (more time = more isk = more ships, more items... t2 items.... faction items.... or bpo.. that means even more isks ;)

again: don't misunderstand me: I HATE WOW, but to all of you that just say this to fell uber (i play eve that is l33t, wow is for n00bs(tm) ) think at what you are doing before talk


SUMMARIZING:

- i love eve skill system, i'm not asking for it to change, but actually it is simply wrong ( 50% wrong :P )

- i hate wow, but eve is farm-based too, no less no more


i hope someone will understand my point of view and write something useful and constructive
...and to not fall in the usual uselss flame

see you all and peace to everyone that read my whole post Smile


oh.. and of course sorry for my english and if i made some mistakes

Jim McGregor
Posted - 2007.06.22 19:44:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Jim McGregor on 22/06/2007 19:42:53
Originally by: Zemeckis R

i love this kind of skilling system, and i don't want it to change and i'm not here to ask for this

what i want to say is that according to eve i can learn how to fly a spaceship... simply sitting on a chair reading a book......

yeah this is the point



Eve actually used to have skillpoint advancement when you were doing something, like using your guns or whatever. But people started putting their chars afk shooting rocks to powerlevel, so it was removed.

Vitrael
Reaper Industries
Cry Havoc.
Posted - 2007.06.22 19:45:00 - [3]
 

Sorry, no.

Case in point: People going out into asteroid fields and blasting them all day to get better at gunnery. Catch the drift?

Hakar Kerarmor
Gallente
Arctic Productions
Posted - 2007.06.22 19:45:00 - [4]
 

You're not reading a book, you are having software/knowledge/experience/moxie downloaded and installed into your brain.

Ridley Tree
Veto.
Posted - 2007.06.22 19:46:00 - [5]
 

EVE skilling is more akin to matrix style learning. The information/ability/memories/instincts for it are being feed into brain. You're not really reading a book. Your absorbing all of the experience, instincts and knowledge necessary to use said spaceship/gun/equipment.

Zemeckis R
Posted - 2007.06.22 19:53:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Zemeckis R

- i hate wow, but eve is farm-based too, no less no more



i'm actually thinking about this...
more time to play = more isks ...and isk = POWER
how could it be changed?
i don't know, and maybe there's nothing that need a change, i'm just having a stream of consciousness...

actually if you don't play your character still grow up learning skills by itself: when you log out, your character study... well he study anytime, even during a fight or a fleetbattle Shocked
what a nerd Laughing

joking...
but hey, anyway this don't seems to be too wrong, let me explain:

- you don't play but gain skillpoints

thing about this:

- you don't play but gain isks and sp
why isks? well... maybe... your character... have a job Rolling Eyes

yeah nice... and after all you have to not play to gain isks... you pay the subscription, but don't have fun... mmm maybe it could be like this: when you play you only gain sp... but faster
when you don't play, you get sp slower, but start getting isks too

maybe when logging ouy you could choose what to let your character do:

- more work = more isks
or
- more study = more sp

dunno... it don't seems to be so wrong to me

what do you think about it?

SunTzuRaven
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2007.06.22 19:55:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Jim McGregor
Edited by: Jim McGregor on 22/06/2007 19:42:53
Eve actually used to have skillpoint advancement when you were doing something, like using your guns or whatever. But people started putting their chars afk shooting rocks to powerlevel, so it was removed.



Was this in beta? Or sarcasm?

I joined the day after release and don't remember this... If its sarcasm... I'm slow in the head Embarassed

Zemeckis R
Posted - 2007.06.22 19:56:00 - [8]
 

mmm the matrix system make sens, i feel better now
seriously, it makes sense now Smile
thx Wink

let me know what do you think about my second post, if you want

ps
to Jim McGregor: yeah i knew about that system Confused
i was not thinking to anything like that anyway Wink

Zemeckis R
Posted - 2007.06.22 19:58:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Zemeckis R

maybe when logging out you could choose what to let your character do:

- more work = more isks
or
- more study = more sp


maybe this could even avoid isks sellers
or not?ugh


 

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