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Gallente McNuggets
Posted - 2007.06.21 02:26:00 - [1]
 

Nuff said.

No other HAC (or other ship) comes even close to the Vagabond in over-poweredness. It has speed, DPS and tank.

Just look at 99% of the alliances killboards and see how many peeps are flying it to see that every noob and his iWin button are flying one.

This is a side-effect of the Nano nerf. Now peeps all fly the only remaining nano ships - Vaga and to a lesser extent, Nanophoon.

Time to plug the hole. Let the noobs learn how to fly ships that actually, you know, involve a bit of risk and brain power.

Moved from Eve General Discussion to Ships and Modules -Eldo

Terazuk
Amarr
Servants of Drawnon
Posted - 2007.06.21 02:26:00 - [2]
 

1st!

Can I have your stuff?

Ryas Nia
Minmatar
Veto.
Posted - 2007.06.21 02:36:00 - [3]
 

overload web == dead vaga
kinetic missles == dead vaga or vaga that runs away
huginn/rapier == dead vaga
sensor damps == dead vaga or one that runs away
.....
.....
.....

Its not our fault you suck.

Mud Pandemonium
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
Posted - 2007.06.21 02:39:00 - [4]
 

*This comment removed as trolling is forbidden on the forums - Timmeh*

heheheh
Phoenix Club
Posted - 2007.06.21 02:40:00 - [5]
 

*This comment removed as trolling is forbidden on the forums - Timmeh*

Gallente McNuggets
Posted - 2007.06.21 02:43:00 - [6]
 

I will use the above abusive responses as proof that I hit the nail on the head.

Dark Shikari
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.06.21 02:43:00 - [7]
 

Curse and Huginn can speedtank just as well as the vaga (if not better due to nos/webs) Neutral

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2007.06.21 02:45:00 - [8]
 

Nerf everything!

Especially those overpowered haulers I can't pop in a single volley YARRRR!!

Skelator
Stronghold corp
CORPVS DELICTI
Posted - 2007.06.21 02:48:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Skelator on 21/06/2007 02:48:06
Originally by: Gallente McNuggets
Nuff said.

No other HAC (or other ship) comes even close to the Vagabond in over-poweredness. It has speed, DPS and tank.

Just look at 99% of the alliances killboards and see how many peeps are flying it to see that every noob and his iWin button are flying one.

This is a side-effect of the Nano nerf. Now peeps all fly the only remaining nano ships - Vaga and to a lesser extent, Nanophoon.
Time to plug the hole. Let the noobs learn how to fly ships that actually, you know, involve a bit of risk and brain power.


Let me guess you didn't train Minmitar skills so now you expect all pilots who trained hard and long in their minnie skills to be nerfed because you chose a different race to train for?

Be realistic will you?





xp8k
Posted - 2007.06.21 03:02:00 - [10]
 

I dont see how they are over powered.

I tanked 2 of them in my myrmidon untill they had to warp out due to syntries (sp).

I may have been able to take one out if I had fit a webber and brought some medium drones.
Keep in mind, there were 2 of them, and they couldnt even break 1 BCs tank, and they were able to tank the syntries for a few minutes.
Personally I think anyone with a decent tank could handle a vagabond, they seem not to have the DPS of other HACs to make up for thier speed and survivability.

Thats what I make of them from my own encounters.

Morn Judith
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2007.06.21 03:11:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Gallente McNuggets
Nuff said.

No other HAC (or other ship) comes even close to the Vagabond in over-poweredness. It has speed, DPS and tank.

Just look at 99% of the alliances killboards and see how many peeps are flying it to see that every noob and his iWin button are flying one.

This is a side-effect of the Nano nerf. Now peeps all fly the only remaining nano ships - Vaga and to a lesser extent, Nanophoon.

Time to plug the hole. Let the noobs learn how to fly ships that actually, you know, involve a bit of risk and brain power.


Lol. So, training to fly a HAC well, which usually involves, what, 10 million skill points, qualifies someone as a noob?

Boy, you need a reality check. Rolling Eyes

MehTheTrader
University of Caille
Posted - 2007.06.21 03:14:00 - [12]
 

Minimatar needs to lose 30 percent of its damage, because of how much of speed bonus it gets. Then it will be on par with other races.

Skelator
Stronghold corp
CORPVS DELICTI
Posted - 2007.06.21 03:18:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: MehTheTrader
Minimatar needs to lose 30 percent of its damage, because of how much of speed bonus it gets. Then it will be on par with other races.


They ALREADY did!

Alpha Strike and artillery nerf for the loss ugh

VicturusTeSaluto
Gallente
Metafarmers
MeatSausage EXPRESS
Posted - 2007.06.21 03:19:00 - [14]
 

Don't nerf anything. Buff everything so that it is ALL powerful Razz


MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2007.06.21 03:28:00 - [15]
 

wait... WHAT???

We have the loest dps in the game!!!

plus we relod after 10 shots!

nerf this nerf that

cut the lowest dps race in the game by 30%... bah

take into account reload time you nut job
yes I have done the math on this me and my friend wanted to see what had more dps, and hybirds came out WAY on top
damn him

yes we do more alpha dmg
if you dont' know what that is no more whining for you

shakes head

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2007.06.21 03:29:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Gallente McNuggets
Nuff said.

No other HAC (or other ship) comes even close to the Vagabond in over-poweredness. It has speed, DPS and tank.

Just look at 99% of the alliances killboards and see how many peeps are flying it to see that every noob and his iWin button are flying one.

This is a side-effect of the Nano nerf. Now peeps all fly the only remaining nano ships - Vaga and to a lesser extent, Nanophoon.

Time to plug the hole. Let the noobs learn how to fly ships that actually, you know, involve a bit of risk and brain power.


also I don't fly them because they are pretty weak compared to anything with a web
it's a watse to have a speed mod in there for my taste

and they don't do as much dps as the other matar HAC

oh and lets nerk the cheeta lol

Firane
Nothing Personal Inc
White Noise.
Posted - 2007.06.21 03:30:00 - [17]
 

lol Laughing

Ryas Nia
Minmatar
Veto.
Posted - 2007.06.21 04:00:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Gallente McNuggets
I will use the above abusive responses as proof that I hit the nail on the head.


you have driven said nail into the spacious void between your ears. Clearly you lack the creative ability to solve your own problems.

Liliane Woodhead
Intergalactic Charwomen
Posted - 2007.06.21 04:05:00 - [19]
 

Hey stop that you silly gallente, i am selling Vagabounds !

.... oops i am gallente, too Shocked


Sell your soul today! fridays two for one price.

Kruel
Beyond Divinity Inc
Posted - 2007.06.21 04:14:00 - [20]
 

Someone got killed by a Vaga methinks. Laughing

More likely it's the pilot who's overpowered. Wink

Khan Dhu
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.06.21 04:23:00 - [21]
 

T2-fit a Hurricane.

Or, I'm sorry - I can hear your answer now - "I shouldn't have to cross train for a month to counter a single overpowered ship."

Vyyrus
An Eye For An Eye
Rule of Three
Posted - 2007.06.21 04:24:00 - [22]
 

Lately I been disgusted with these forums. It seems like omg I got killed by a vagabond CCP nerf it !@#$.

Santa Anna
Caldari
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
Posted - 2007.06.21 04:30:00 - [23]
 


xeom
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.06.21 04:39:00 - [24]
 

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

cheesyhead
Minmatar
Cruoris Seraphim
Exalted.
Posted - 2007.06.21 04:40:00 - [25]
 

kk,im not going to laugh in ur face, i am however going to argue against you..

you say you want risk, vagabonds are the riskiest hacs to fly. sure they have high survivability but thats only if u know what ur doing. For a vagabond to not totally suck nowadays u or need great skills/implatns or an pretty expensive fit.
Also, u need to be a pretty nice pilot (not noob ) to master ur vaga so it doesnt run into web range of a gang ( 2 ships is really hard for a vag )
Unless u know what ur doing in ur vag and u have invested some money, Any old semi-fast ship could catch you ( if they know what there doing ) .So no, vagabonds do not need a nerf at all.

Dazmo Corse
Minmatar
Royal Hiigaran Navy
Posted - 2007.06.21 04:49:00 - [26]
 

I say nerf the nerfbat!

Hennry Fromer
Gallente
The Radiated Space Gerbils
Posted - 2007.06.21 04:51:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Gallente McNuggets
Nuff said.

No other HAC (or other ship) comes even close to the Vagabond in over-poweredness. It has speed, DPS and tank.

Just look at 99% of the alliances killboards and see how many peeps are flying it to see that every noob and his iWin button are flying one.

This is a side-effect of the Nano nerf. Now peeps all fly the only remaining nano ships - Vaga and to a lesser extent, Nanophoon.

Time to plug the hole. Let the noobs learn how to fly ships that actually, you know, involve a bit of risk and brain power.


Okay a little sympathy here,

Now where did the vagabond touch you, show us here on this dolly.

You said the pilot offered you candy to leave the station and help him find his lost puppy.

Jim McGregor
Posted - 2007.06.21 05:38:00 - [28]
 


LOL... vagabond has dps? I read a post a while back about 2 vagabonds not being able to kill a afk raven in 2 minutes. AFK. He wasnt even having hardeners on or boosting the shield.

I can fly it and I dont even want to.

Bein Glorious
SAKUMA DROP
ANAHEIM ELECTRONICS Alliance
Posted - 2007.06.21 05:46:00 - [29]
 

The vagabond isn't really overpowered, its just all the faction and deadspace mods that make it really formidable. Nobody will ever let you nerf their "shinies" though.

Anonay
Posted - 2007.06.21 05:53:00 - [30]
 

stop your moaning and get a life, i guess you have died to one. So pucker up and take it Wink


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