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Kryztal
Caldari
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2007.06.17 02:00:00 - [31]
 

Oh yeah and i regulary remind Mitch from Dark-Rising that he sucks. But like Mitch knows im playing around so dont take everything so serious in this internet spaceship game Gungan :P

Mitch Taylor
Caldari
Dark-Rising
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2007.06.17 02:02:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Kryztal
Oh yeah and i regulary remind Mitch from Dark-Rising that he sucks. But like Mitch knows im playing around so dont take everything so serious in this internet spaceship game Gungan :P


shes not lying.

/shakes fist

N2IHC
Minmatar
NibbleTek
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.06.17 02:10:00 - [33]
 

*snip* Trolling. -Elmo Pug

UGWidowmaker
Caldari
freelancers inc
Imperial 0rder
Posted - 2007.06.17 02:10:00 - [34]
 

ye maybe we whine a bit atm. but it will go ower.. plz due have in mind 20 menn made the outpost. so a lot of feelings involved. we will get ower it no worries. as said earliere. been there done that tried it all before.. its not like we started play the game for 2 years ago..

anyway. as topic said standing are reset. and we are free and that is nice for a change...

if we sound whiny!! i apologise. that will soon be historie..

Korin Muradrim
Amarr
freelancers inc
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2007.06.17 02:14:00 - [35]
 

Edited by: Korin Muradrim on 17/06/2007 02:16:05
Originally by: Kryztal
It went quite respectfully and smoothly from most XS guys except Setenta.


Setenta was also the only corporation in Xelas who deployed an outpost a mere six weeks prior to this event, an outpost which it took a very small number of members seven months to prepare. We were growing and improving.

You knew. You directly assisted in the process of deployment.
Don't come around like you didn't plan it.


McMike
Minmatar
Specter Arms
Posted - 2007.06.17 02:21:00 - [36]
 

The delusions Xelas had before all of this about their relationship with BOB makes this just too funny!

'Pets' are 'Pets' after all, nothing more.

Death Bliss
Caldari
Chronic.
Posted - 2007.06.17 02:24:00 - [37]
 

i got respect to u guys, Executors of Tribal SOuls back in the days... very fun in PS. Good times till abs left. GL to you guys

Sprak
Caldari
Donner Party
B4D W01F
Posted - 2007.06.17 02:40:00 - [38]
 

Best of luck to my former corp and its members.

*spanks Kryztal*

Abuse Mitch more, no need to troll ;)

Aldari Verve
Caldari
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.06.17 02:49:00 - [39]
 

*snip* Trolling. -Elmo Pug

Arenis Xemdal
Amarr
Insidious Existence
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2007.06.17 03:05:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Gungankllr
Edited by: Gungankllr on 17/06/2007 01:33:05
Originally by: Kryztal
Originally by: UGWidowmaker
no need sir... you have your pets to shiver for you :)


LoL we just got rid of you so not alot more left that shiver at the sight of corps like yours :p


Kryztal, you've always been pretty straightforward...

Back when STK went to Fountain during the ASCN conflict, a few threads emerged that had to do with people smacking Xelas. (I.e. they suck in huge ways)

In one of those threads I had pointed out what the feelings were about Xelas when we were fighting FA in Fountain. (We as in You, I, Blacklight and the rest of the guys when I was in BNC)

(I had pointed out that most everybody in BNC on TS and in-game had been pretty blunt about Xelas sucking, and that they shouldn't be in our gangs, and that the only thing they were good for was to jump through a gate to see if the other side was camped)

Anyhow, you guys all sat and defended Xelas when those threads came up.

Can't you just be blunt and state finally that Xelas was just an ally of convenience?

I mean, you guys haven't liked them for Years, where's the harm in just being honest about it?




Bluntness? You wan't bluntness?

Theres a difference between sucking at PVP, and sucking in general. ASCN sucked at pvp, but you were able to pull through for quite a long time without calling for help. Hell, STK Scientific sucks at PVP but you still try. This was Xelas. Then you broke down and were unable to communicate with one another, you began having leadership issues, and trust issues. This is Xelas.

Xelas got special treatment for two years. While other caretaker alliances (those that don't pay rent) have expectations and responsibilities placed on them, Xelas had none. Still they tried and maintained professionalism, and behaved like an alliance would. That broke down, and no longer exists. I would explain why, but I don't have the time to waste.

So many people chiming in like they know whats going on, and that applies for BoB members too. If Xelas were being removed based on the reasons these forums cite, it would have been done ages ago. Its a shame you're all too ignorant to see that.

Slow Joe
Amarr
I can't believe it's not a noob corp
Posted - 2007.06.17 03:14:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Korin Muradrim
Edited by: Korin Muradrim on 17/06/2007 02:16:05

Setenta was also the only corporation in Xelas who deployed an outpost a mere six weeks prior to this event, an outpost which it took a very small number of members seven months to prepare. We were growing and improving.

You knew. You directly assisted in the process of deployment.
Don't come around like you didn't plan it.




You built a sand castle in the bully's sandbox, what did you expect?

The Hooch
Minmatar
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
Posted - 2007.06.17 04:06:00 - [42]
 

Not as much fun when your master turns on you...is it?

Sergeant Spot
Caldari
Galactic Geographic BookMark Surveying Inc.
Posted - 2007.06.17 04:13:00 - [43]
 

For the record

All the other Xelas corps are still blue and NOT being fired upon.

They will remain blue until the pre-stated time unless they "also" take actions to change that.

Almarez
Amarr
Setenta Corp
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2007.06.17 04:18:00 - [44]
 

You know what. Xelas did have it's issues but when you kick people out that spent months building something like an outpost (remember that it was like 10-20 people within STC not the whole alliance) and it gets taken away after like a month by the people who were supposed to be your friends with no compensation you can't expect us to not be ****ed. I mean hell BoB has billions of isk I'm sure, you're telling me you couldn't say hey STC, were screwing you but here is a little isk on the side for your trouble (since STC was not a problem corp).

BTW the farmers were from Singapore, get it right. Wink

Dufas
Amarr
freelancers inc
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2007.06.17 06:58:00 - [45]
 

..and the bird says 'SPRAK SPRAK SPRAAAAAAK!!!'

Helen
Amarr
ReviveX Fleet
White Noise.
Posted - 2007.06.17 07:30:00 - [46]
 

Gungankllr remeber what I said awhile back about these forums and your posts and what is the point?

Have a think and then tell me what you should not do in future.

Also thanks for saying STK sucks at pvp we know that already thanks for the clarification on the issue Arenis Xemdal, just remeber we didn't suck as bad as a whole alliance that you had "looking after" fountain for you till you sent reinforcements.

As for Setenta Corp hope you have fun guys no doubt we'll have pew pew soon.YARRRR!!

Nolene
Amarr
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.06.17 08:03:00 - [47]
 

Have fun dying, rofl...

Graalum
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.06.17 08:03:00 - [48]
 

was there any merit to the titan rumors, as bizarre as they might seem?

Arenis Xemdal
Amarr
Insidious Existence
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2007.06.17 08:03:00 - [49]
 

Hmm, I don't know. I'll throw this out there, way out there..

But when several Setenta Corp members here are talking about the outpost they built as being something we knew or authorized before it went up, it tends to prove my point about Xelas leadership, communication, and the utter lack of it.

To quote your CEO, in the huge dossier sent to us the last week;

"...living outa a POS, and knew we couldnít grow / become what we were, so we formulated a plan, which was approved by Xelas leadership and then we saved our Iskies and got the egg for U-soh..."

Followed by a detailed plan to deploy three more outposts within 4 months. What was the plan to defend this space you may ask? A "long standing member of Setenta" with access to capital blueprints would begin constructing some, as soon as there was a "lull" big enough to safely deploy a capital shipyard and build himself a mothership. Within two months of the post-deployment, a full half year & some 150 Billion ISK spent after writing this proposal, Setenta would expand its Dreadnaught fleet from 2 to 6 (yes, six)- with a promise that all other corps who "know about the potential deployment" would do the same.

Ironically enough, it ended with "Xelas actually accomplishing what we said we would some time ago is more of a priority for all involved as far as Iím concerned.".

But again, just throwing that out there. It's probably nothing.

Horatio Nately
Caldari
808 Enterprises
Posted - 2007.06.17 08:50:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Aldari Verve
what did you do with all your chinese isk farmers. did they get evicted as well? I see alot of them in venal. damn chinese isk farmers are poluting eve. lets kill thems



The farmers were mostly in Doomsday corp afaik. Mostly...

UGWidowmaker
Caldari
freelancers inc
Imperial 0rder
Posted - 2007.06.17 09:03:00 - [51]
 

Edited by: UGWidowmaker on 17/06/2007 09:04:23
+- = 0.0

WiseMagic
Gallente
Rubra Libertas Militia
R0ADKILL
Posted - 2007.06.17 10:43:00 - [52]
 

Might I just add Very HappyHAHA Very Happy

Setana Manoro
Gallente
Firefly Inc.
Posted - 2007.06.17 11:05:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Neveren
Edited by: Neveren on 16/06/2007 23:55:36
The corporation Setenta (STC) Has Left the Xelas Alliance and reset ALL Standings to 0.


We will maintain a NBSI policy in low sec and 0.0


see you in space..




Something about a ship that is sinking and rats comes to mind.

Guess XS was after all a collection of farmers, industrials and cowards. :)

Jasai Kameron
Caldari
Hakata Group
Blade.
Posted - 2007.06.17 11:12:00 - [54]
 

Edited by: Jasai Kameron on 17/06/2007 11:43:40
Originally by: Arenis Xemdal
Hmm, I don't know. I'll throw this out there, way out there..

But when several Setenta Corp members here are talking about the outpost they built as being something we knew or authorized before it went up, it tends to prove my point about Xelas leadership, communication, and the utter lack of it.

To quote your CEO, in the huge dossier sent to us the last week;

"...living outa a POS, and knew we couldnít grow / become what we were, so we formulated a plan, which was approved by Xelas leadership and then we saved our Iskies and got the egg for U-soh..."

Followed by a detailed plan to deploy three more outposts within 4 months. What was the plan to defend this space you may ask? A "long standing member of Setenta" with access to capital blueprints would begin constructing some, as soon as there was a "lull" big enough to safely deploy a capital shipyard and build himself a mothership. Within two months of the post-deployment, a full half year & some 150 Billion ISK spent after writing this proposal, Setenta would expand its Dreadnaught fleet from 2 to 6 (yes, six)- with a promise that all other corps who "know about the potential deployment" would do the same.

Ironically enough, it ended with "Xelas actually accomplishing what we said we would some time ago is more of a priority for all involved as far as Iím concerned.".

But again, just throwing that out there. It's probably nothing.

Right, you obviously know a lot more than I do (non-sarcasm, btw).

I think your point is that we suck. And heck, maybe in comparison to you, we do. But it seem to me that you are saying that even at the time you aided us in building the outpost, you viewed our ability to hold it as pretty much imaginary.

So your ally is overextending themselves in your opinion...

Do you a) warn them that they run a large risk of building an asset they will lose b) do nothing and leave them to make their own mistake or c) aid them in overextending themselves, using a Titan to jump bridge in the building efforts, thus endorsing the effort, with the (possible?) intention of taking the asset that a small number of dedicated players, rather like yourself, have put so much time and energy into.

Personally, I'd have chosen a). That's the nice option. But then BoB aren't nice, so I think people could have respected choosing to say nothing and let us make our mistakes. And then take the Outpost. But actually aiding and therefore endorsing is just plain dishonourable.

This is all assuming I understood your post correctly. As I say, you know a lot more than me about the situation.

I'm just trying to understand, same as everyone else.

Zeraph Dregamon
Amarr
Guiding Hand Social Club
Posted - 2007.06.17 11:16:00 - [55]
 

He's questioning your honor Arenis Sad

Jasai Kameron
Caldari
Hakata Group
Blade.
Posted - 2007.06.17 11:39:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Zeraph Dregamon
He's questioning your honor Arenis Sad

Laughing

GHSC? Genius.

Dionisius
Gallente
the muppets
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2007.06.17 11:42:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Korin Muradrim
Edited by: Korin Muradrim on 17/06/2007 02:16:05
Originally by: Kryztal
It went quite respectfully and smoothly from most XS guys except Setenta.


Setenta was also the only corporation in Xelas who deployed an outpost a mere six weeks prior to this event, an outpost which it took a very small number of members seven months to prepare. We were growing and improving.

You knew. You directly assisted in the process of deployment.
Don't come around like you didn't plan it.




I would normally show some support but, considering what some of your corp and alliance members told to Horde members when we were stabbed, considering your actions all i can say, and remembering the outpost you'll lose to BoB i will say only this... AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!DIE!PWNED!YOU HAD IT COMING! and all other stuff that usually comes around.

Smile

Darkstar BP
Caldari
eXceed Inc.
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2007.06.17 12:01:00 - [58]
 

I just hope Fix will whine less when it is their turn

Velsharoon
Gallente
Arcane Velshologies
Posted - 2007.06.17 12:05:00 - [59]
 

Does it not occur to you guys to simply not suck and then say we want our outpost back we promise to be good?


Korin Muradrim
Amarr
freelancers inc
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2007.06.17 12:25:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Arenis Xemdal
But when several Setenta Corp members here are talking about the outpost they built as being something we knew or authorized before it went up, it tends to prove my point about Xelas leadership, communication, and the utter lack of it.



I'm very much aware that you hadn't been informed about our plans until right before they were carried out. But as Jarmon stated, you had three options when our plans became clear to you. You chose the 'unkind' option. All I am saying is what I think about your actions.

Keep doing your thing, and we will keep doing ours. An outpost is just ISK, in the end.


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