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Ductoris


ISD YARR
Posted - 2007.06.07 06:16:00 - [1]
 

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/07/arts/07eve.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Some real big info in there. I'm sure you'll be hearing more about it in the future but until then I thought I'd make a thread to consolidate the comments.

Yurii Chan
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2007.06.07 06:21:00 - [2]
 

a-m-a-z-i-n-g!!!!

i love the new york Times and i love EVE

so i'm happy now. will it come in print tho?

Badhands
Gallente
Posted - 2007.06.07 06:24:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Badhands on 07/06/2007 06:22:56
Although I do not trust CCP anymore, and, being a member of Darkstar1 when it happened, I know that there was NOT a problem with the POS in the Sharkbait incident, I believe that this is most definitely a step in the right direction, and a fantabulous idea. Oh yeah, one more thing...


First!

Edit - Aww... second.

RaTTuS
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2007.06.07 06:25:00 - [4]
 

Umm, I nominate myself for free travel to iceland

Johnnie Nano
The Scope
Posted - 2007.06.07 06:25:00 - [5]
 

You beat me to it!

Amazing that Eve would get such coverage in NYTimes!

Lavinrac Krad
Caldari
Posted - 2007.06.07 06:29:00 - [6]
 

Wow! I am quite amazed and impressed actually.

Yurii Chan
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2007.06.07 06:30:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Johnnie Nano
You beat me to it!

Amazing that Eve would get such coverage in NYTimes!


yea i know! NYT is #1 American paper imo. looks like i'll be up till daylight to snatch the paper right when they deliver it!!!

/me mumbles to self 'or i could set my alarm clock'
Laughing

but yea, i like the idea of a committee of elected uh officials (are they officials?) sent to sniff out CCP HQ for WMDs... oh wait...

Yakoff
Alcatraz Inc.
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2007.06.07 06:32:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Yakoff on 07/06/2007 06:32:15
So, will there be some basic prerequisites/requirements that nominees must meet?

Can I be psychotic and still get on the nominee list, or does one of my multiple personalities have to be somewhat normal?

Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente
Shadow Templars
Posted - 2007.06.07 06:33:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 07/06/2007 06:32:17
Originally by: Ductoris
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/07/arts/07eve.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Some real big info in there. I'm sure you'll be hearing more about it in the future but until then I thought I'd make a thread to consolidate the comments.




Honestly, I have always trusted CCP.

I wish I could be nominated, but I am too much of a fanboi to be trusted ugh



Hippo117
Caldari
Wings of Redemption
Black Flag Alliance
Posted - 2007.06.07 06:34:00 - [10]
 

Interesting.

illusha
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.06.07 06:37:00 - [11]
 

Damn that liberal bias! I thought it was a well written article and very funny in some areas.


Quote:
So now, in a sociological twist, the company that makes Eve, CCP, based in Iceland (population 300,000), says it will tackle the problem the way a democracy would. In what appears to be a first, the company plans to hold elections so that players can select members of an oversight committee.


Quote:
The company will then fly those players to Iceland regularly so they can audit CCP’s operations and report back to their player-constituents. And taking cues from transitions to democracy in the developing world, CCP says it will call in election monitors from universities in Europe and the United States.


Are you serious? I haven't heard CCP anounce this yet and this is really stupid. What kind of a professional and legit company lets non-employees audit them and look at the details of their operation? None that I can think of. Yes, they may hire an outside firm to do it, but they are professionals, not regular people that play a spacecraft game and take it too seriously. Why would you pay a lot of money to fly non-employees to do something you obviously don't want them to do? This won't save your credibility.

Are you going to pay the people of these committee for their working hours lost? How would they explain this to their boss, "sorry boss but I need to go to Iceland for a couple of weeks to tell some idiots how to run a game" "Are you serious? you're FIRED"

Your lack of intelligence once again surprises me CCP, good job again!

Mr Adequate
Gallente
Posted - 2007.06.07 06:38:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Johnnie Nano

Amazing that Eve would get such coverage in NYTimes!


Nice things about the player oversight committee -- I predict endless bickering on the forums that will totally distract everyone.

What to do to keep restless citizens quiet? A committee!

Iceland is a little too far from GMT+8 ugh

Mr Adequate
Gallente
Posted - 2007.06.07 06:42:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: illusha

Are you going to pay the people of these committee for their working hours lost? How would they explain this to their boss, "sorry boss but I need to go to Iceland for a couple of weeks to tell some idiots how to run a game" "Are you serious? you're FIRED"

Your lack of intelligence once again surprises me CCP, good job again!


I am sure that I can apply for some time off -- one of the benefits of being self employed. If I can, then I am sure that within those 200,000 non-macro players there must be plenty.

Ok, we found the first required qualification for an EVE independent monitor:

(1) Need plenty of free time

Feel free to add ...

illusha
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.06.07 06:44:00 - [14]
 

2. Need to have at least a college education, preferably graduated with a business administration degree.

Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
Posted - 2007.06.07 06:45:00 - [15]
 

Interesting idea.

Hilmar is certainly right when he says that reality is partly that what we percieve/believe.

Rslorien
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2007.06.07 06:46:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: illusha
Damn that liberal bias! I thought it was a well written article and very funny in some areas.


Quote:
So now, in a sociological twist, the company that makes Eve, CCP, based in Iceland (population 300,000), says it will tackle the problem the way a democracy would. In what appears to be a first, the company plans to hold elections so that players can select members of an oversight committee.


Quote:
The company will then fly those players to Iceland regularly so they can audit CCP’s operations and report back to their player-constituents. And taking cues from transitions to democracy in the developing world, CCP says it will call in election monitors from universities in Europe and the United States.


Are you serious? I haven't heard CCP anounce this yet and this is really stupid. What kind of a professional and legit company lets non-employees audit them and look at the details of their operation? None that I can think of. Yes, they may hire an outside firm to do it, but they are professionals, not regular people that play a spacecraft game and take it too seriously. Why would you pay a lot of money to fly non-employees to do something you obviously don't want them to do? This won't save your credibility.

Are you going to pay the people of these committee for their working hours lost? How would they explain this to their boss, "sorry boss but I need to go to Iceland for a couple of weeks to tell some idiots how to run a game" "Are you serious? you're FIRED"

Your lack of intelligence once again surprises me CCP, good job again!


CCP is trying to get (even more) the player involved with the company and your first thing to think is how to explain your boss you need to be out for a couple of days ??
btw does your boss know you play EVE??

*snip* Do not troll. -Rauth Kivaro ([email protected])

Nullity
Gallente
Posted - 2007.06.07 06:46:00 - [17]
 

If you don't have a New York Times account, and don't feel like registering one, use this.

Alice Cholmondeley
I Am Legend
Posted - 2007.06.07 06:48:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: illusha
Damn that liberal bias! I thought it was a well written article and very funny in some areas.


Quote:
So now, in a sociological twist, the company that makes Eve, CCP, based in Iceland (population 300,000), says it will tackle the problem the way a democracy would. In what appears to be a first, the company plans to hold elections so that players can select members of an oversight committee.


Quote:
The company will then fly those players to Iceland regularly so they can audit CCP’s operations and report back to their player-constituents. And taking cues from transitions to democracy in the developing world, CCP says it will call in election monitors from universities in Europe and the United States.


Are you serious? I haven't heard CCP anounce this yet and this is really stupid. What kind of a professional and legit company lets non-employees audit them and look at the details of their operation? None that I can think of. Yes, they may hire an outside firm to do it, but they are professionals, not regular people that play a spacecraft game and take it too seriously. Why would you pay a lot of money to fly non-employees to do something you obviously don't want them to do? This won't save your credibility.

Are you going to pay the people of these committee for their working hours lost? How would they explain this to their boss, "sorry boss but I need to go to Iceland for a couple of weeks to tell some idiots how to run a game" "Are you serious? you're FIRED"

Your lack of intelligence once again surprises me CCP, good job again!


You sir, are seriously backward. Try thinking outside of your own boundries for once, you do not have all the wisdom you think you have.

Alice Cholmondeley
I Am Legend
Posted - 2007.06.07 06:49:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Alice Cholmondeley on 07/06/2007 06:48:47
Originally by: Nullity
If you don't have a New York Times account, and don't feel like registering one, use this.



http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/07/arts/07eve.html is the normal link, without the login screen.

Illyria Ambri
SMASH Alliance
Posted - 2007.06.07 06:54:00 - [20]
 

Not just business admin skills.. would need to be a well rounded choice including programmers and professional bug hunters as thats the part that people will really want to hear about..


Ionia
Advanced Manufacturing
Posted - 2007.06.07 06:55:00 - [21]
 

Wow, this is a truly amazing step for CCP. Obviously this shows how much they value their reputation and respect the playerbase. They are willing to go above and beyond what any business would accept as reasonable in a situation like this.

I am totally blown away.

Nullity
Gallente
Posted - 2007.06.07 06:55:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley
Edited by: Alice Cholmondeley on 07/06/2007 06:48:47
Originally by: Nullity
If you don't have a New York Times account, and don't feel like registering one, use this.



http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/07/arts/07eve.html is the normal link, without the login screen.

Thank you. I find those log in screens incredibly annoying.

Helox
Gallente
Demonic Retribution
Posted - 2007.06.07 06:56:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Helox on 07/06/2007 06:54:52
You certainly need a system administrator! Twisted Evil

Yes. I do mean myself.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2007.06.07 06:57:00 - [24]
 

This is incredible, as well as unexpected.

Props to CCP for making such a bold move.

Vorenus16
Posted - 2007.06.07 06:59:00 - [25]
 

*snip* Don't troll and don't respond in kind to trolling, thanks. -Rauth Kivaro ([email protected])

illusha
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.06.07 06:59:00 - [26]
 

I meant to post with my main, Vorenus is my alt.

Awarrior
Posted - 2007.06.07 07:04:00 - [27]
 

now thank you to all forum warriors that EVE is more popular than ever. Now, all the forum warriors get ready and stage another revolt how EVE is so laggy b/c we have alot more players Very HappyVery HappyVery Happy

Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
Posted - 2007.06.07 07:12:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: Kuolematon on 07/06/2007 07:11:03
I will nominate me to travel there because I'm beta2 veteran and CCP owns me IRL cash YARRRR!!

Iwannah Spankjoo
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2007.06.07 07:17:00 - [29]
 

Edited by: Iwannah Spankjoo on 07/06/2007 07:17:22
Well hopefully this will help, not sure but hopefully. But something drastic is needed to wash away the taint from CCP.

Lord Seth
Amarr
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Posted - 2007.06.07 07:17:00 - [30]
 

Edited by: Lord Seth on 07/06/2007 07:28:09
Originally by: illusha
Damn that liberal bias! I thought it was a well written article and very funny in some areas.


Quote:
So now, in a sociological twist, the company that makes Eve, CCP, based in Iceland (population 300,000), says it will tackle the problem the way a democracy would. In what appears to be a first, the company plans to hold elections so that players can select members of an oversight committee.




Quote:
The company will then fly those players to Iceland regularly so they can audit CCP’s operations and report back to their player-constituents. And taking cues from transitions to democracy in the developing world, CCP says it will call in election monitors from universities in Europe and the United States.


Are you serious? I haven't heard CCP anounce this yet and this is really stupid. What kind of a professional and legit company lets non-employees audit them and look at the details of their operation? None that I can think of. Yes, they may hire an outside firm to do it, but they are professionals, not regular people that play a spacecraft game and take it too seriously. Why would you pay a lot of money to fly non-employees to do something you obviously don't want them to do? This won't save your credibility.

Are you going to pay the people of these committee for their working hours lost? How would they explain this to their boss, "sorry boss but I need to go to Iceland for a couple of weeks to tell some idiots how to run a game" "Are you serious? you're FIRED"

Your lack of intelligence once again surprises me CCP, good job again!


OK DUDE!!! lol
Why do ppl have ISO audits? To make the public happy, right? Why make the public happy? Cause when your ISO you can go public with confidence. (by public Im talking about stock market)

Now CCP is doing the same thing a public company would do to make their stocks strong except its not the stock holders you need to make happy its the ppl that play your game.
I cant believe CCP tolerates ppl like yourself attacking them like this your statements are RUDE AND UNCALLED FOR!!!




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