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Astarte Nosferatu
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2007.06.03 15:06:00 - [91]
 

Originally by: Rod Blaine

Either way RA succeeded in surprising us and we'll deal with that fine in our own way thank you.



What, all RA members on the killmail are going to get banned now? Laughing

*snip* Don't troll -Eldo

Reservoir Dog
Amarr
REUNI0N
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2007.06.03 15:07:00 - [92]
 

Edited by: Reservoir Dog on 03/06/2007 15:09:17
Edited by: Reservoir Dog on 03/06/2007 15:07:13
Originally by: Louis DelaBlanche
Nice kill RA

Shame it looks like another mix of dubious tactics n client bugging was the cause of its destruction. But i guess if theres no other way to bring them down, then its what needs to be done.



There's no any dubious tactic. Bob's Aeon logged in right after DT on plex entrance to block it from RA and friends. RA and friends logged in right after DT on plex entrance to kill Aeon and enter the plex. I guess they managed to bubble it successfully to prevent him from jumping out.

And i guess there's may be actually something in CCP programming related with bubbling supercapitals because IAC's mom was desynced too. But it is not reimbursable case i guess because sync problems do not affect your abilities to lock, kill ships and to warp on objects if you're not bubbled.

Rochel Hakiri
Caldari
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.06.03 15:09:00 - [93]
 

Edited by: Rochel Hakiri on 03/06/2007 16:26:14
Great Job RA

9 to go??


Virtuozzo
Gallente
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2007.06.03 15:18:00 - [94]
 

Originally by: Dr Einkeisel
here ya go
here ya go

Oh well this stuff happens and is expected, gg on the kill :) if It gets given back to us then great, but I wouldn't hold any hopes out. And no doubt it will stay on our killboard!


Yeah, that is pretty much as what we observed with Helen at the time (albeit that was worse as in distance and timestamp lapses), and similar to the IAC hickup.

I hear a lot of "desync" comments from MS pilots, even more then other capital types. On sisi it's pretty easy to reproduce as well, there may be something clashing on a code level, who knows.

I don't imagine the ship to get reimbursed, or it would set a reverse precedent, and if there's one thing CCP aren't fond of it is precedents.
Pixels, what can I say.

Helen
Amarr
ReviveX Fleet
White Noise.
Posted - 2007.06.03 15:19:00 - [95]
 

Originally by: DHB FooFighter
Originally by: Dr Einkeisel
here ya go
here ya go

Oh well this stuff happens and is expected, gg on the kill :) if It gets given back to us then great, but I wouldn't hold any hopes out. And no doubt it will stay on our killboard!



The exact same thing happend to the IAC mothership when he went down, and he did not get it back.


I got some lovely pictures of me desynced too but I think the best thing is to show the evidence to the lovely GM's get told its your own problem maybe have a little cry about it then build a new one.

Jesus sometimes MS get desynced I'm pretty sure everyone single MS pilot by now has had severe client issues either a complete lock up or just some 5min delays in stuff actually occuring. Why people feel the need to cry about it on the forums is beyond me, christ I lost the Aeon in a system that had nigh on 300 people in it or so and had a large MC/Outbreak capital fleet in system. When I died did I bleat about lag no I didn't because first your going to get flamed by trolls and alts for crying lag and secondly it achieves absolutley nothing with regards to the issue.

I learnt the hard way that MS aren't supposed to be used like a solowtfbbqpwningmobile against larger fleets so why people continue to abuse their abilities and get owned in them is beyond me. Probably won't stop me though.YARRRR!!

Proxay
Gallente
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2007.06.03 15:19:00 - [96]
 

Ahh....so this is why the russians arn't in the plex today...

Serilla
Gallente
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2007.06.03 15:19:00 - [97]
 

Originally by: Fortior
Long live the Oppression Palace! Crying or Very sad


Too bad the name space was too short for mobile Smile

Del369
Caldari
Insidious Existence
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2007.06.03 15:20:00 - [98]
 

*snip* Removed reference to a deleted post -Eldo (mods@ccpgames.com)

Three0fNine
Caldari
FinFleet
IT Alliance
Posted - 2007.06.03 15:20:00 - [99]
 

Originally by: DHB FooFighter
The exact same thing happend to the IAC mothership when he went down, and he did not get it back.


Correct. I was flying a Thanatos in the gang that killed the IAC mothership.

But it took away all fellings of victory when I heard what happened (the desync thing)

Eldo Davip


Minmatar
ISD YARR
Posted - 2007.06.03 15:33:00 - [100]
 

blah blah blah.. Thread cleaned, dont troll, flame or something bad happens (without lube). You know the routine.

Ciphero
Amarr
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2007.06.03 15:44:00 - [101]
 

Originally by: xRazoRx
here you go

"Well this is good" - Laughing

RDLxVulture
Minmatar
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2007.06.03 15:48:00 - [102]
 

Good job X.I.X and RA!Twisted Evil

WildSide
Minmatar
Spartan Industries
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2007.06.03 15:59:00 - [103]
 

Nice kill....even im bet its more or less 50/50 if u gonna have to kill it again or not..

ElCholo
Minmatar
BURN EDEN
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2007.06.03 16:04:00 - [104]
 

Originally by: Mutant
I dont understand what u want... Login in game after DT is bad mechanics?
well, Leonidas every day (last week) after DT login Aeon on plex gate and kill ppl... so, who use bad mechanics?



If the guy is dumb enuf to log in and camp same place / same time he is just setting himself up for a gank and deserved to lose the MS. Good kill. YARRRR!!

King Leonidas
Amarr
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2007.06.03 16:06:00 - [105]
 

Edited by: King Leonidas on 03/06/2007 16:50:16
Right, that is quite bloody well enough of the accusations and counter accusations in this thread and anywhere else.

Allow me to set the record straight, this loss was the result of a well executed trap that we failed to react properly too. We did not have an emergency cyno in place, we were not quick enough at checking what was incoming and finally, I had been sat at the gate for about 2 weeks after failing to gank the RA nyx in the system.

I got very little kills in the ship, didn't really stop RA from doing anything except scare off the nyx for a while, and funnily enough it is the one from F-T. So I guess there is a little justice there for RA.

Furthermore, in the time I was in the system, we did not do enough plexes to cover the value of the ship nor is there an instant replacement for it, a new one won't be built for a couple of months yet as these things are not throw away ships like everyone would like you to believe when they die.

I hope this goes someway to answering some of the bull**** questions in here.

King

rig0r
Gallente
The Gravedigger Company
Posted - 2007.06.03 16:11:00 - [106]
 

Originally by: King Leonidas

I hope this goes someway to answering some of the bull**** questions in here.

King



Thanks for clearing that up. And props to RA for a well executed trap I guess Shocked

Mattduk
Gallente
Universal Army
Posted - 2007.06.03 16:13:00 - [107]
 

Originally by: Shirei
Originally by: Kehmor
Originally by: Shin Ra
Any dubious circumstance are for the most part irrelevant .

Goon/RA morale +1


well word on the street is it has already been replaced so I wouldn't exactly call it irrelevant.

If it has been, this will just provide some proof of certain allegations that can't be named. The response time for reimbursement petitions is typically up to a week, anything on the order of hours would mean someone abused their connections to get it escalated.quote]

Rubbish.

I had a corp mate that petitioned his Drake loss during a disconnect in a mission and he received his Drake back in 15 minutes.

Granted, we were all gobsmacked, but there were no instances of MSN, red phones or CCP Floodlights in the sky. So please, please, please stop with these stupid, baseless accusations

Regards
Mattduk

Shirei
Minmatar
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2007.06.03 16:19:00 - [108]
 

Edited by: Shirei on 03/06/2007 16:18:40
Originally by: Mattduk
Originally by: Shirei
Originally by: Kehmor
Originally by: Shin Ra
Any dubious circumstance are for the most part irrelevant .

Goon/RA morale +1


well word on the street is it has already been replaced so I wouldn't exactly call it irrelevant.

If it has been, this will just provide some proof of certain allegations that can't be named. The response time for reimbursement petitions is typically up to a week, anything on the order of hours would mean someone abused their connections to get it escalated.quote]

Rubbish.

I had a corp mate that petitioned his Drake loss during a disconnect in a mission and he received his Drake back in 15 minutes.

Granted, we were all gobsmacked, but there were no instances of MSN, red phones or CCP Floodlights in the sky. So please, please, please stop with these stupid, baseless accusations

Regards
Mattduk


Well, if CCP improved their response times lately, that's great. Just from personal experience, I've never received a response to a reimbursement or other petition in less than 5-6 days (with the record being about 4-5 weeks to resolve a simple issue) - although I haven't had to do any in the last 2-3 months admittedly. Wink

branodn lee
Minmatar
kadian blades
Posted - 2007.06.03 16:22:00 - [109]
 

*snip* Trolling. -Elmo Pug

Kryztal
Caldari
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2007.06.03 16:22:00 - [110]
 

*snip*

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Evil Thug
Minmatar
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2007.06.03 16:26:00 - [111]
 

post with your main dbp Laughing

King Leonidas
Amarr
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2007.06.03 16:26:00 - [112]
 

Originally by: branodn lee
*snip*


The ship has not been replaced as I stated as it was a legitime kill.

If you lot want to go cry about petitions or any other tinfoil garbage, you know where to go. If you want to discuss the kill then this is the thread for you.

King

DB Preacher
Minmatar
Reikoku
KenZoku
Posted - 2007.06.03 16:28:00 - [113]
 

Edited by: DB Preacher on 03/06/2007 16:27:27
Originally by: Evil Thug
post with your main dbp Laughing


Sure, but I didn't post here as dbp because you know how it goes. Blah Blah Blah.

But pulling stuff from elsewhere in here is pretty stupid thug, leave that place where it is.

dbp

Shamza
Minmatar
Free Space Pilots aka Banderlogs
Red Alliance
Posted - 2007.06.03 16:30:00 - [114]
 

Gj guys, now Titan's turn.

Kane Rizzel
Minmatar
NovaKane Incorporated
Posted - 2007.06.03 16:33:00 - [115]
 

Massive respect King for giving us your side and clearing up all the mindless accusations flying around

Mattduk
Gallente
Universal Army
Posted - 2007.06.03 16:33:00 - [116]
 

Originally by: Shirei
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley
Originally by: Shirei
Originally by: fire 59
Before throwing around all the tinfoil, how about you wait to hear from the people actually involved before making ridiculous claims 'again'. Btw, iac got there nyx back that desync fyi so i think it's abit of a lottery whether or not you get whatever back.



I did not make any claims, notice the word 'if'. Now stop putting words in my mouth and go back to your flame-hut. Wink


It's pretty obvious what you meant.

I mean what I say. Nothing more.. nothing less..


You said:

"The response time for reimbursement petitions is typically up to a week, anything on the order of hours would mean someone abused their connections to get it escalated."

THAT'S what you said, and THAT's what you meant. The word 'if' was in a previous sentence.

Regards
Mattduk

Zu Vurn
Minmatar
Nekogame
COASTAL BROTHERHOOD
Posted - 2007.06.03 16:35:00 - [117]
 

Edited by: Zu Vurn on 03/06/2007 17:18:49
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ddemec
Minmatar
SoT
Soldiers of Thunderstorm
Posted - 2007.06.03 16:39:00 - [118]
 

we are the best
undoubtedly
!

Alexander Knott
Caldari
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.06.03 16:42:00 - [119]
 

Originally by: King Leonidas
Originally by: branodn lee
lets all face it. there is no way bod would lose a super cap and not get it back. it took what 10mins for them to get this one back im guessing.


The ship has not been replaced as I stated as it was a legitime kill.

If you lot want to go cry about petitions or any other tinfoil garbage, you know where to go. If you want to discuss the kill then this is the thread for you.

King


Thanks for your post King, that was the menschy thing to do. Congratulations RA, awesome kill!

Helganstandt
Caldari
Finis Lumen
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2007.06.03 16:42:00 - [120]
 

There seems to be a lot of problems with desyncing when the lag gets kind of bad in a place where CCP doesn't have time to reinforce the node. I know when I was in The Cartel, Evil Thug and his boys jumped us during a siege of a POS and one of our dreads got desync'd, and subsequently destroyed. It just happens, and CCP did not reimburse that loss either, so I wouldn't hold my breath on this one.

No matter what the circumstances, good job RA and friends.


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