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tiller
THE PILLAGE
Posted - 2007.05.29 16:57:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: tiller on 29/05/2007 16:56:43

Dear CCP

Every other day all I see on the little MOTD / Service status box when I start eve is negative comments threatening blah blah EULA this EULA breach that.

As much as you hate these things it's just bad vibes and does not given anything positive to your subscribers.

IMHO it's bad business and if it were my company I would not allow it. I hate it, imagine how new subscibers feel when all they see is threats of banning.

Tiller out

Lukor
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.05.29 16:59:00 - [2]
 

Yeah it's such a lovely welcome to the game when you log in.

Derovius Vaden
Posted - 2007.05.29 17:01:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: tiller
Edited by: tiller on 29/05/2007 16:56:43

Dear CCP

Every other day all I see on the little MOTD / Service status box when I start eve is negative comments threatening blah blah EULA this EULA breach that.

As much as you hate these things it's just bad vibes and does not given anything positive to your subscribers.

IMHO it's bad business and if it were my company I would not allow it. I hate it, imagine how new subscibers feel when all they see is threats of banning.

Tiller out


Their is no such thing as a good rule, no one likes restraints. I personally like that they have the EULA highlights window.

Drunk Driver
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2007.05.29 17:02:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: tiller
Edited by: tiller on 29/05/2007 16:56:43

Dear CCP

Every other day all I see on the little MOTD / Service status box when I start eve is negative comments threatening blah blah EULA this EULA breach that.

As much as you hate these things it's just bad vibes and does not given anything positive to your subscribers.

IMHO it's bad business and if it were my company I would not allow it. I hate it, imagine how new subscibers feel when all they see is threats of banning.

Tiller out





I think there should be a warning in the MOTD that states:


"Warning, fat headed pirates inside!"


(Sorry couldn't resist.)
Laughing

Asmosis
Posted - 2007.05.29 17:02:00 - [5]
 

"always use 3 positives to every negative remark" at least thats what my previous manager said. Basically if they're going to put those lil things in they need to add a majority of positive remarks be it faction fluff, events or whatnot.

tiller
THE PILLAGE
Posted - 2007.05.29 17:07:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Drunk Driver
Originally by: tiller
Edited by: tiller on 29/05/2007 16:56:43

Dear CCP

Every other day all I see on the little MOTD / Service status box when I start eve is negative comments threatening blah blah EULA this EULA breach that.

As much as you hate these things it's just bad vibes and does not given anything positive to your subscribers.

IMHO it's bad business and if it were my company I would not allow it. I hate it, imagine how new subscibers feel when all they see is threats of banning.

Tiller out





I think there should be a warning in the MOTD that states:


"Warning, fat headed pirates inside!"


(Sorry couldn't resist.)
Laughing


I just have a large chin Mad

Deakka
Caldari
Posted - 2007.05.29 17:08:00 - [7]
 

They just should put general information in there. Like it used to be, when Downtime is, or when something is wrong with server.

People agree with EULA when they start playing, if they fail to get to it then its their problem.
You most likely are putting the warnings there to counter the violations, imo its ppls own responsibility if they violate..

So yeah get rid of the negative thing there..

Drunk Driver
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2007.05.29 17:08:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: tiller

I just have a large chin Mad



Wink


Dalanoria
Northern Intelligence
Veritas Immortalis
Posted - 2007.05.29 17:16:00 - [9]
 

trolling removed - Deckard

Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Posted - 2007.05.29 17:18:00 - [10]
 

I think it's a great message. They warn people of not breaking the EULA, just like every other MMO spams it on their news sections.

What really would be lowering the morale tho would be if we kept seeing "hardware issues, server might be a bit unstable today, we apologize .. working on resolving the issue .." etc.

If your morale drops when reading a reminder not to cheat, I wonder where the problem is. Do you consider breaking the EULA? No? Then what's so bad about it. o_O

FarScape III
Journey On Squad
Posted - 2007.05.29 17:24:00 - [11]
 

I'm a good boy so I'm not threatend by it.

I'm glad to see them warning those nasty EULA breakers because they hurt my game.

But I like the idea of 3 positive to one negitive. and maybe a fluff thrown in for good measure.

Alora Venoda
GalTech
Whiskey Creek Alliance
Posted - 2007.05.29 17:24:00 - [12]
 

or they could make it like on WoW where it shows a random "tip" every time you log in, including useful hints as well as jokes and news items, in addition to the EULA stuff.

it probably needs multiple sections. one to give immediate notifications like they have been, and one to give less important "tips".

PCaBoo
Ammo and Tag
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2007.05.29 17:30:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Dalanoria
snippy

lol I feel a mysterious ban coming.

tiller
THE PILLAGE
Posted - 2007.05.29 17:47:00 - [14]
 

oh yeah, hell lets go the whole 9 yards here.....

MOTD should read

'xxx was banned lol'

Jim McGregor
Posted - 2007.05.29 17:49:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Jim McGregor on 29/05/2007 17:49:52
Originally by: tiller
oh yeah, hell lets go the whole 9 yards here.....

MOTD should read

'xxx was banned lol'


That would be awesome.

TheHolyKamikaze
The Knights of Gonjdor
The Gurlstas Associates
Posted - 2007.05.29 18:05:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Asmosis
"always use 3 positives to every negative remark" at least thats what my previous manager said. Basically if they're going to put those lil things in they need to add a majority of positive remarks be it faction fluff, events or whatnot.

Agreed with that. Keep the bad news, but at least give me some good/amusing news.
Quote:
If your morale drops when reading a reminder not to cheat, I wonder where the problem is. Do you consider breaking the EULA? No? Then what's so bad about it. o_O

Basically it's like when your mom used to remind you not to run in the house, or wash your hands, or blah blah. We know, we understand, stop it. Razz
Originally by: tiller
MOTD should read

'xxx was banned lol'

Hah, or do like what Google used to do, where they had the text bar that showed what people were actually searching. Only have it show who the most recent ban was, followed by a link to the long list of people who were banned that day.

Or a dynamically updated ticker that tells how many people have been banned. Very Happy

Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Naraka.
Posted - 2007.05.29 18:24:00 - [17]
 

Why would new player worry about banning? Unless they're PLANNING to breach the Eula of course??

Thommy
Posted - 2007.05.29 18:30:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Thommy on 29/05/2007 20:54:14
Originally by: MOTD

Revelations 1.4.3 Deployed.

Please remember that selling / buying ISK for real money is an EULA violation.
There where 29 players banned because of violating this rule (click link for exact status and character names, updated each 5 minutes)

26,722 players online: status ok



Hmm no somehow this doesn't sound very appealing either Laughing

edited to add other types of "random" (fun) motd's Very Happy

Something funny and totally useless.
Originally by: MOTD

Revelations 1.4.3 Deployed.

Todays winning lottery number is 399972, brought to you by <ccp staffmember>
This motd has a hint: this is not the number you are looking for.



Handy information for people not regurly visiting the website.
Originally by: MOTD (dureing downtime)

Currently the transquality cluster is unavailable because of daily maintanance.

Meanwhile we recommend you read the eve background stories or visit the dev blogs for upcomming events & expantions.



Some developer / ISD / GM / moderator / thommy's Laughing popular one liners (and there where many more even better ones).
Originally by: MOTD

Revelations 1.4.3 Deployed.

Sharkbait - We are screwed!
<unknown> - Please don't post threads.
CCP Wrangler - (Friendly yet firm message on why this was locked) (Random smiley graphic) (The text "Locked")
<unknown> - First and last - locked
<unknown> - we have had a breaktrough! (moments later the server hangs in an infinite loop)
Thommy - Click incomming (5,4,3,2,1..less then one second) (related to an startup issue)



Obviously many of these wont really happen duo the professional nature ccp would need to hold up though funny nonetheless.

Innominate
Amarr
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.05.29 18:38:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Misanth

If your morale drops when reading a reminder not to cheat, I wonder where the problem is. Do you consider breaking the EULA? No? Then what's so bad about it. o_O


It's because when you're seeing these reminders, you know it's because there are a lot of people doing it.

TheHolyKamikaze
The Knights of Gonjdor
The Gurlstas Associates
Posted - 2007.05.29 18:39:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: TheHolyKamikaze on 29/05/2007 18:38:44
Seriously.
The MOTD really isn't that big of deal.
But seeing as how everyone in the EVE community most likely reads it every time they login, it wouldn't be a bad idea to spend a couple minutes to come up with some 'fortune cookie' messages or tips or something other than EULA violations and server issues. (not saying MOTD has never had anything positive written on it, just a lack of)
Might be just enough to change the attitude of some players before logging in, who knows?

As for the ban tickers and etc.
Well that would be kinda amusing (at least to us non-n00bs)

Thommy, I think you're right. Not appealing at all. But amusingLaughing

Herculite
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2007.05.29 18:50:00 - [21]
 

My morale goes up.

I really really hate isk farmers and the thought that maybe CCP is cracking down harder on them gives me a warm fuzzy feeling.

Khatred
ReallyPissedOff
Guinea Pigs
Posted - 2007.05.29 19:03:00 - [22]
 

It's a bit ironic when the motd is Buying/Selling isk is against the EULA yet you can buy isk with gtcs Razz

Megadon
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.05.29 19:21:00 - [23]
 

I think the idea of naming and shaming is great in the MOTD. Have a new toon banned and tell the reason why. It would make me warm and fuzzy inside.


"Today, RancidBeaver was banned for macromining"

YARRRR!!

Bistot Kid
The First Thing You'll Ever See
Posted - 2007.05.29 19:24:00 - [24]
 

Yeah, MOTD should read "X players banned in the last month".

Rudeness
Minmatar
Dragon's Rage
Posted - 2007.05.29 19:32:00 - [25]
 

My favotite one was. That giving someone your account info and password, was doing so at your own risk. CCP wouldn't reimburse for any losses.

The next MOTD was - that account sharing was a violation of the EULA.

or the famous "Something happened"

Mad Amos
Minmatar
Posted - 2007.05.29 19:43:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Alora Venoda
or they could make it like on WoW where it shows a random "tip" every time you log in, including useful hints as well as jokes and news items, in addition to the EULA stuff.

it probably needs multiple sections. one to give immediate notifications like they have been, and one to give less important "tips".


"Never pet a burning dog." Laughing

Agent Li
Caldari
CCCP INC
Posted - 2007.05.29 19:43:00 - [27]
 

I think it should read: "Lag in Jita today" or "Lag in Motsu today".

You know, something obvious.

ho chiminh
Gallente
SlackaNova
Posted - 2007.05.29 20:06:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Herculite
My morale goes up.

I really really hate isk farmers and the thought that maybe CCP is cracking down harder on them gives me a warm fuzzy feeling.


HaHa

I really hate players,corps,alliances with special dev access. The thought that CCP is cracking down on themselves and their buddies makes me LMAO.

And I'm still waiting for your E-Bay passwords.

CCP Wrangler

Posted - 2007.05.29 20:20:00 - [29]
 

EVE is a dark and harsh world, you're supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for.

BMWM6
Posted - 2007.05.29 20:24:00 - [30]
 

What with lag included as an extra bonus Razz


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