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BMWM6
Posted - 2007.05.29 06:52:00 - [61]
 

Total BS .. One of your SWA guys decided to take it upon himself to steal loot from a wreak, from a pvp fight that just finished hence the reason he got podded in his shuttle... I guess you must teach that in your school too Rolling Eyes This is 15mins before you 25 SWA guys decided to show up. Next time get your facts straight please. You make it sound like this guy got podded just to be podded that is not the case, he was trying to steal loot . 4 other people who where there can tell you can same thing


Originally by: Stellar Vix
Edited by: Stellar Vix on 29/05/2007 00:15:45
Edited by: Stellar Vix on 28/05/2007 23:14:00
REPORT
State War Academy to Caldari State Navy
First Battle Report

SUBJECT
Training Pvp Squadron Program & Incident

REF A
Combat Still Image

BODY
Appox 0100 Eve Time
Central command gives reports of a Pilot of notoriety had began a string of attacks on shuttle craft and other civillian craft flying though a low security sector of space.
Even a worse atrocity he has flying a ship belonging to our long hated bigots a Gallentian Drone Battle cruiser, the Myrmidon we assumed this was the work of the Federation.

Although the initial reports didnít give name or ship info the reports where however true, the pilot attacked indiscriminately that wandered in his crosshairs of anything that would seem to be an easy prey.

Caldari State issued an order for SWA to organize a PVP training session with veteran officer instructor pilots assigned to the Academy to train and outfit newly graduates on the concepts of war and combat and the practical instruction of on hands teaching.
The training session managed to comprise of 24 volunteer instructor and student pilots willing to learn how to defend their state.

0200 Eve Time
The class briefed and prepared went on their patrol with one veteran pilot leading the scout effort. Another veteran field commanding along with three more instructional pilots including one advisory one tactical load outs and one navigation officers.
The students where described as eager to learn and willing to follow orders followed their field commander to the dot and perform precision maneuvers as they ventured to the dangerous lower security space where the reports pointed to.

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Stellar Vix
State War Academy
Posted - 2007.05.29 06:57:00 - [62]
 

Edited by: Stellar Vix on 29/05/2007 07:11:45
Due to the 1200 pilots, in channel we cannot feasibly train and keep track of all of our pilots or their actions let alone control all of thier actions, including our instructors, this class has no form of control nor tools like what that of normal player corps have, we dont have tax rate, we cant kick out players. Also like I said we may have PIRATE alts instructring and they will encourage thier methoods of pvp.
Had your allegated SWA character payed attention to corp chat you may have gotten word a pvp group was roaming the area at the time. This was announced a full 4 hours before the group got together.

Day 2 of this pvp training had 1 fleet and proper operation with a run in with the Carebare stare group losses where inflicted and the FC made the proper called declaring the fight unwinnable and withdrew the froces 2 ships and a pod was belived to be lost, but reports are sketchy, Howeve there where about 3 indiependet operations held with various FCs who imposed thier fleet tatics numerous ships where declared destroyed wtih the likes of a raven, tristain, and a pair of caracals.

BMWM6
Posted - 2007.05.29 07:05:00 - [63]
 

Originally by: Stellar Vix
Due to the 1200 pilots in channel we cannot feasibly train and keep track of all of our pilots or their actions. If you however get mobbed by 5 10 mabey 30 swa pilots, youll know it is us.



Your missing the point, only reason why you came after the Myrm was b/c the person who tried to take steal the loot from the wreck ended up with kill rights, hence you would not have taken the SS hit, thats they only reason you went after the myrm, b/c the SWA guy made it seem he got podded for nothing.

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2007.05.29 07:05:00 - [64]
 

When will you claim 0.0 sov and start building up your cap fleet?

jk, great job

Stellar Vix
State War Academy
Posted - 2007.05.29 07:15:00 - [65]
 

I talked with the FC of that group, nobody with the group was podded, ships lost but no pods.

JackBeLucky
Posted - 2007.05.29 07:23:00 - [66]
 

Nobody was podded from the first encounter with the myrmidon pilot... I don't know why he is saying that... anyways if someone wants to get mad about it I dont understand why you're risking more than you're willing to out in LowSec. Stuff happens, buddy. Laughing

Stellar Vix
State War Academy
Posted - 2007.05.29 07:35:00 - [67]
 

Edited by: Stellar Vix on 29/05/2007 07:50:00
Sir there are several pilots that doubt your claim of your alternative character getting attacked by our group, There where 3 additional classes of ship I did not mention in the report and one class of ship stated that wasnt there, if you can name these ships then I can belive you.

And of course the bigger question is, was I there personally?

Lastly why are you getting offended by a Rolled Played Report, this simply could have gone 'took 30 frigs and blew up a myrmidon no sweat.' but no the facts where as the proper liturature term, romanacized, and made to be more 'heroic' than it really was.

Sakura Nihil
Selective Pressure
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2007.05.29 08:06:00 - [68]
 

Kudos and good luck! The more people that learn how to defend themselves in space without the help of others, the better our future will be Very Happy.

Pastryfish
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2007.05.29 08:22:00 - [69]
 

WTF? Why are all our names blacked out on that image?

Acacia Everto
INTERNET HARBLRAGE
Posted - 2007.05.29 08:24:00 - [70]
 

Hey! Why's my name blacked out?

Stellar Vix
State War Academy
Posted - 2007.05.29 08:26:00 - [71]
 

CCP disallows picture divulging information as it would lead to 'greifing' practicees and various others reasons they can probably state better themselves, so to allow the pictures to be shown i had to censor the image.

Pastryfish
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2007.05.29 08:33:00 - [72]
 

Edited by: Pastryfish on 29/05/2007 08:50:00
Edited by: Pastryfish on 29/05/2007 08:45:09
Actual feed. Unedited.
There we go. That's fixed.

Gaven Blands
Caldari
Cosmic Fusion
Systematic-Chaos
Posted - 2007.05.29 09:04:00 - [73]
 

This is actually very interesting to me.

Not the pew pew bit... but the possibility that SWA could be subverted into a massive highsec piracy NPC corp.

I really want to see what CCP do to nerf SWA like they did Privateers for making pew pew where CCP clearly only want the buzz buzz of 0.0 alliance pet corp mining lasers.

Splagada
Minmatar
Tides of Silence
Posted - 2007.05.29 09:07:00 - [74]
 

Edited by: Splagada on 29/05/2007 09:07:20
hey great idea :D

SWA becoming a highsec pvp force is kind of scary...

Mistress PewPew
Repo Industries
Posted - 2007.05.29 09:25:00 - [75]
 

I don't see what you're getting at. If you attack someone in SWA, the corp doesn't get to attack you back, AFAIK, so how are we to be a High Sec PVP Force?

Splagada
Minmatar
Tides of Silence
Posted - 2007.05.29 09:27:00 - [76]
 

i meant : organizing a HORDE of new players together (and also some not so new) can bring some serious pew pew force :p

Mistress PewPew
Repo Industries
Posted - 2007.05.29 10:11:00 - [77]
 

While out tonight in cruisers, we definitely ran into some good people. Carebear Stare put a hurting on us, and later, in another system, we got pretty much ****d. We got tired of trying to find some PVP action, so we went to kill some rats ... next thing you know, we've got a hostile right on top of us, bringing the pain in his Hurricane.

BTW, if the offending Hurricane pilot reads this, kudos to you, your setup is pretty mean!

Radgun
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2007.05.29 10:53:00 - [78]
 

go newbies! Laughing Wink

Lisa Starblazer
Defiant..
Narwhals Ate My Duck
Posted - 2007.05.29 10:56:00 - [79]
 

Hello Space Cadets!

Its great to see the academy's finest are showing those good for nothing pirates and terrorists that our fine Caldari state will tolerate none of their nonsense.

Lyshah
The Carebear Stare
Hydroponic Zone
Posted - 2007.05.29 10:59:00 - [80]
 

Originally by: Pastryfish
Edited by: Pastryfish on 29/05/2007 08:50:00
Edited by: Pastryfish on 29/05/2007 08:45:09
Actual feed. Unedited.
There we go. That's fixed.


thats helarious.

Kudos to these guys going out and learning... Pretty good entertainment too. One of em was out peeveepeeing in an ibis... I'd guess he had some fun. The FC was in a corm.

We really were after the cerb and the bb, but they was scardy. I packed praetor IIs especially for the Caldari gankage.

Busty StClaire
Posted - 2007.05.29 11:17:00 - [81]
 

Fantastic idea and an equally fantastic thread...

Do your instructor pilots fly as n00b alts ??? allso who to contact with regards to getting involved???

Mistress PewPew
Repo Industries
Posted - 2007.05.29 11:25:00 - [82]
 

Originally by: Lyshah


thats helarious.

Kudos to these guys going out and learning... Pretty good entertainment too. One of em was out peeveepeeing in an ibis... I'd guess he had some fun. The FC was in a corm.

We really were after the cerb and the bb, but they was scardy. I packed praetor IIs especially for the Caldari gankage.


The ibis pilot was scouting around, trying to find us some targets, afaik.

When you guys warped on top of us, you guys brought the pain! We were chasing the Cerb also, we ran into him a few times, but we unable to get any tackle on him before he got away. There was a Manticore following us around too, trying to get some free kills on the frigs.

I don't remember what other ships were out there, but I hope by BB you don't mean my precious BlackBird. =/

Ash Vincetti
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
Posted - 2007.05.29 11:27:00 - [83]
 

I support this thread. Cool

Cleille
Infamous Technologies
Posted - 2007.05.29 11:40:00 - [84]
 

I support SWA. Safe flying fellow caldarians.

heheheh
Phoenix Club
Posted - 2007.05.29 11:47:00 - [85]
 

Originally by: Haffrage
When you say "fined and turned over to proper authorities" I'm hoping you don't mean you ransomed him and then killed him anyway. People don't take very kindly to that. Especially when it's an overwhelming blob of players, no matter how new they are or what ships they're in Neutral


Each to his own, Not all people give a toss about their rep.
Some would even prefer to be known as scandalous.
who ever said a pirate was honest ?

Mistress PewPew
Repo Industries
Posted - 2007.05.29 11:59:00 - [86]
 

What is funny, and frustrating at the same time, is that a person's SEC status doesn't normally mean squat, aside from their exile from High-Sec space. The Hurricane pilot that annihilated 4 of us, had a sec of 3.5 or so, and some of the low sec status guys were cheering us on for being newbs organizing PVP.

BluOrange
Gallente
The OZ Hunters and Mercenary Association
Black Scope Project
Posted - 2007.05.29 12:46:00 - [87]
 

It's good to see that there are people out there sharing their knowledge and so forth! Competition will keep us honest.

After reading this thread, it seems to me that there are the following differences between the SWA PVP course and Agony's PVP-BASIC:

- SWA is free, BASIC will cost you between 5 and 7 million
- SWA requires that you be a member of their corp, BASIC does not
- SWA's class is significantly shorter (1 hour of theory, plus 3 hours of flight) compared with BASIC (3+ hours of theory, plus 3+ hours of flight)
- SWA's class seems to be run on an ad-hoc and spontaneous basis, while BASIC classes run to a schedule and must be booked in advance
- SWA's restrictions on recruiting are stronger than the restrictions in BASIC
- SWA's class does not require any specific character skills, BASIC has defined prerequisites (easily trained in the time it takes to book your class and attend)
- SWA's class seems to hunt in lowsec, BASIC hunts in 0.0

Looks like I'll have to create an alt in the SWA Wink

Acacia Everto
INTERNET HARBLRAGE
Posted - 2007.05.29 15:48:00 - [88]
 

Originally by: Mistress PewPew
While out tonight in cruisers, we definitely ran into some good people. Carebear Stare put a hurting on us, and later, in another system, we got pretty much ****d. We got tired of trying to find some PVP action, so we went to kill some rats ... next thing you know, we've got a hostile right on top of us, bringing the pain in his Hurricane.

BTW, if the offending Hurricane pilot reads this, kudos to you, your setup is pretty mean!


Agreed. Kudos to that pilot. He had a especially mean setup, and it was definitely a challenge. A challenge we may have horribly lost, but none the less a challenge. Good fight.

Stellar Vix
State War Academy
Posted - 2007.05.29 16:50:00 - [89]
 

Quote:

It's good to see that there are people out there sharing their knowledge and so forth! Competition will keep us honest.

After reading this thread, it seems to me that there are the following differences between the SWA PVP course and Agony's PVP-BASIC:

- SWA is free, BASIC will cost you between 5 and 7 million
- SWA requires that you be a member of their corp, BASIC does not
- SWA's class is significantly shorter (1 hour of theory, plus 3 hours of flight) compared with BASIC (3+ hours of theory, plus 3+ hours of flight)
- SWA's class seems to be run on an ad-hoc and spontaneous basis, while BASIC classes run to a schedule and must be booked in advance
- SWA's restrictions on recruiting are stronger than the restrictions in BASIC
- SWA's class does not require any specific character skills, BASIC has defined prerequisites (easily trained in the time it takes to book your class and attend)
- SWA's class seems to hunt in lowsec, BASIC hunts in 0.0

Looks like I'll have to create an alt in the SWA


SWA will only cost you your time and ship and we canít guarantee refunds of course.

We don't tolerate non SWA members for now, there had been discussions about allowing the likes of the
Minmatar and Amarr rookies to join up as well due to their lack of numbers and action but itís just a discussion we still donít know where this project can go.

SWA PVP teaches 1 hour philosophy and aspect (for new players unfamiliar to pvp) 1 hour preflight brief (fittings, comms, and movement) and ???hours practical for our classed up and scheduled operations.

We also teach a daily class on module usage, yesterday's Guided Munitions 101 proved quite informational; many of the players who attended now understand the proper choices in tasking what targets their class of missiles should be used for.

SWA PVP also has spontaneous crash course practical as well that sounds what it is, get a bunch of people together and go take it to them. These crash courses wonít follow the rules and practice all forms of pvp so watch out for them they go unscheduled and run though out the day and week.

SWA PVP enrollment requirements are fairly simple and very easy to get into, just be a member of SWA and have something to fly in that you will not care to lose, we recommend the ability or have the ability to replace those losses however no use to teach pvp if the player who lose ships cannot replace them with one or two mission runs in their special mission only ships.

SWA PVP doesnít require specific skill requirements part is true for good reason, we want to teach pilots that they are able to choose their own path still and in order to pvp they will have to choose their own skills based on what they believe they need to get in order to pvp better. Many of our fine pilots have found out that Warp Drive operation is a good skill to have for fleet movement, while others are slowly beginning to notice the effectiveness of ewarfare and realizing its not just about bigger guns and bigger ships that always wins the day, its coming prepared that does.

If our Field Commanders Instructors or Student Lead Operations have no set place to hunt, although mostly low security is the place they often visit there is no restriction on 0.0, low sec also has unique targets including the like of solo pvpers which is rare in 0.0 situation where 0.0 places have far more advanced gangs.

Also in SWA PVP the only leadership that exists is the Instructor pilots even then they donít really control anything except the class schedule, everything else is still voluntary nobody is forced to do anything nobody is required to attend the classes provided. We leave that choice to the pilots.
Even the instructors are voluntary.

Bottom Line is we try to have fun and learn at the same time.

SFShootme
The Carebear Stare
Hydroponic Zone
Posted - 2007.05.29 18:59:00 - [90]
 

uber thread

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