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Imuran
Zentor Industries
Posted - 2007.05.26 00:43:00 - [241]
 

Originally by: Arushia
The glitched pos makes sense.

I'm more concerened aout the wrongful termination of the ISD correspondant and the allegation that BoB is able to reach CCP staff with a simple MSN message, bypassing the petition system used by honest players.


Agreed

Wikkid
Minmatar
Neogen Industries
Posted - 2007.05.26 00:43:00 - [242]
 

I just listened to Eris Concordia and the others for an hour talking about storylines and roleplaying. What's sad is that all of their work and all of their efforts will be forever tainted by all of this.


Death Priest
Stronghold corp
Knights Of the Southerncross
Posted - 2007.05.26 00:43:00 - [243]
 

Originally by: Milano II
Originally by: Iwone
I would love to ask CCP ppl to tell us how many more times we need to "trust" them.

You ppl are ruining your own game.


/Signed


Counter Signed

Shadow Elk
Posted - 2007.05.26 00:43:00 - [244]
 

So.. I pay to play.. Do I get a refund?

Mad Wasp
Posted - 2007.05.26 00:44:00 - [245]
 

same in 1 year of playing i have not posted before, this is simple unacceptable and no i can't spell :-)

Prall Grosserbauch
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.05.26 00:44:00 - [246]
 

Originally by: perfeus
Umm,

So let me get this straight. I am supposed to take it at someones word that they were an ISD member who uncovered a "super secret" conspiracy in which CCP would put their own real life jobs and company on the line in order to help an imaginary alliance in an online space game?


Nobody is demanding you accept anyone's word, this is about raising legitimate concerns (and a former CCP-employee alleging corruption, devs entering corps unanounced, GMs deleting petitions and evidence suggestion RP events are fixed are legitimate concerns whatever you may think of the validity of the claims) and ensuring that this time around we get an open and honest account of the events and actual concrete repercussions if any CCP employess are guilty of misconduct.

Shinigami
Gallente
Shinra
Posted - 2007.05.26 00:44:00 - [247]
 

Originally by: Shinigami
Back in REALITY we realize that a GM could easily see what's building in a POS without the need to join that corp.


We also realize that a GM could easily remove that record if he was doing something wrong.

Jonas Vance
No Quarter.
Vae Victis.
Posted - 2007.05.26 00:45:00 - [248]
 

Originally by: ShinigamiBack in REALITY we realize that a GM could easily see what's building in a POS without the need to join that corp.



We also realize that a GM could easily remove that record if he was doing something wrong.
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Because GM's have such a great record of hiding their tracks. *coughT20cough*

Shadow Elk
Posted - 2007.05.26 00:45:00 - [249]
 

Edited by: Shadow Elk on 26/05/2007 00:45:44
Edited by: Shadow Elk on 26/05/2007 00:44:37
Originally by: Igus
We also realize that a GM could easily remove that record if he was doing something wrong..


Just say NO to cheating!

luminoll
Collegium Mechanicae
Dominus Bellorum
Posted - 2007.05.26 00:47:00 - [250]
 

Quote:
CCP being contacted via MSN rather than petition? Who cares?

Thats favoritism plain and simple. I work as a systems admin. I have had people ask me how much vacation time they had left. I could tell them but that would be unethical. They have to go through proper channels, namely human resources. Abusing my privelidge to access all files is unethical.

If I have to go through a petition process, then everyone should.

Wylker
Caldari
Pyrrhus Sicarii
Posted - 2007.05.26 00:47:00 - [251]
 

Sigh, all of my posts are gone.

Here I'll try to be more constructive.

I don't see how a GM joining a corp is an exploit. If he had to do so to do ANYTHING, it is within his purview. Go ahead, join all the corps. Theres nothing he can't do not in your corp to hurt you that he can do in corp to hurt you.

The ISD thing strikes me as someone who messed up, and lost his highly rewarding volunteer position because of it. The rest is bitterness and want for revenge using a mechanism that has already been proven to show half-truths that are designed to discredit a certain alliance and the CCP staff.

I'd either stop trying to turn every single thing that you don't agree with into a giant drama bomb or go find another game to play if this one is SO evil and SO corrupt.

CCP Arkanon


C C P
Posted - 2007.05.26 00:47:00 - [252]
 

Hi everyone.

Thank you for your input, we are following this thread and would very much like to ask for your cooperation in verifying some of the statements made, particularly those directly involving CCP staff or volunteers. Please note that we will need some details to be able to investigate, the more the better.

Our direct email address is [email protected]

We will investigate the allegations made in this thread and update the playerbase as we can. This is a holiday weekend, as luck would have it, but we'll do what we can.

TheOnePunisher
Caldari
High Flyers
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2007.05.26 00:47:00 - [253]
 

Lol.. And You guys ask for our trust.. It you that should be asking For help.. Not our trust.

Mahavy Seth
Viper-Squad
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2007.05.26 00:48:00 - [254]
 

May be ASCN has been destroyed by CCP because they was not kneeling at CCP rules on how the universe "need to be".

Buttercup Sedai
CAPITAL Assistance in Destruction Society
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.05.26 00:48:00 - [255]
 

For asking the question, I'm sure you'll get one too. If the MO is to ban anybody who uses the feedback thread for *gasp* negative feedback, you're screwed.

...and so am I, but it needs to be said. Horrible irony ITT.

Lana Bird
Posted - 2007.05.26 00:49:00 - [256]
 

Do you guys at CCP actualy think one second what your actions mean to the reputation of your corporation or their identiti before you do such stupid stuff?

Want to kill your own game or are you just stuck on stupid?

Parsil
Posted - 2007.05.26 00:49:00 - [257]
 

Would you like to comment on the ISD scandle or am i going to get banned for bringing this up?

I cannot believe how much BS is being pulled here.

I didn't and will not continue to pay 15 bucks a month so a bunch of icelandic nerds with programming skills and friends within the company can play internet space kings.

Wylker
Caldari
Pyrrhus Sicarii
Posted - 2007.05.26 00:50:00 - [258]
 

Originally by: CCP Arkanon
Hi everyone.

Thank you for your input, we are following this thread and would very much like to ask for your cooperation in verifying some of the statements made, particularly those directly involving CCP staff or volunteers. Please note that we will need some details to be able to investigate, the more the better.

Our direct email address is [email protected]

We will investigate the allegations made in this thread and update the playerbase as we can. This is a holiday weekend, as luck would have it, but we'll do what we can.



I predict that you'll find a lot of smoke, mirrors, and noise, and very little fact or proof.

Jmanis Catharg
Caldari
Dusk Blade Logisitcals
Posted - 2007.05.26 00:51:00 - [259]
 

Quote:
Originally by: ShinigamiBack in REALITY we realize that a GM could easily see what's building in a POS without the need to join that corp.



No **** sherlock. I administer an online licensing system, I can read anybodies license details, create licenses, edit license details, anything.

It *doesnt* mean I can tell if a customer can buy a license or perform the functions they are supposed to be able to do. I can only tell that by being a customer myself and purchasing/changing details.

Get a clue before giving the emo e-peeners the wrong thing to cry about please.

Hallowed Point
Perkone
Posted - 2007.05.26 00:51:00 - [260]
 

All BoB members might want to refrain from posting; when the t20 scandal came out, BoB members posted early and often about how it was all lies. Then, it turned out to be true, and those BoB members looked very silly indeed.

I look forward to hearing the truth about these events; the ISD bannings, the RP events being rigged and the DS1 issue. That last especially interests me, because if the CCP employee has cause to do what he or she did, why then cover it up? I will be saddened but unsurprised if in the near future DS1's assets are "discovered" by some lucky BoB scout. Not because I assume developer cheating, but because there is no way to rule it out. Things like this make everyone look bad.

Uruko
North Star Networks
Black Hand.
Posted - 2007.05.26 00:51:00 - [261]
 

Originally by: Wylker
Sigh, all of my posts are gone.

Here I'll try to be more constructive.

I don't see how a GM joining a corp is an exploit. If he had to do so to do ANYTHING, it is within his purview. Go ahead, join all the corps. Theres nothing he can't do not in your corp to hurt you that he can do in corp to hurt you.

The ISD thing strikes me as someone who messed up, and lost his highly rewarding volunteer position because of it. The rest is bitterness and want for revenge using a mechanism that has already been proven to show half-truths that are designed to discredit a certain alliance and the CCP staff.

I'd either stop trying to turn every single thing that you don't agree with into a giant drama bomb or go find another game to play if this one is SO evil and SO corrupt.


Signed

Ezra
Gallente
Calista Industries
Brutally Clever Empire
Posted - 2007.05.26 00:51:00 - [262]
 

Originally by: Cyllaina
I read the letter, I don't see anything in there that would constitute a label of " cheating "...


A careful read will allow one to see that the ISD guy was clearly bias against BoB in the instance he spoke about, he even admitted to Warping within 1 " Foot " as he put it, of the dread.

Come on now, we all know if you warp right ontop of someone, be it a few hundred meters or a thousand, the likelyhood that you're going to bump them is high.



Maybe YOU should read the letter more carefully.

It is the job of ISD ICs to cover battles. To do that, they need to be at the battle. This is why ISD ICs have the teleport command available to them.

The fact that this teleport command (Remember, TELEPORT, not warp) places the ISD member right on top of the target ship is not the fault of the ISD member - It is the fault of whoever coded that tool.

An ISD member should in no way be punished for flaws in the tools given to them BY CCP. From reading the letter, Raekhan made every effort to avoid interfering with the battle, short of simply not covering it at all. (Such as immediately moving out to a range of 80+km from the blob after teleporting).

Why does the ISD teleport tool drop the ISD member right on top of the target? Why doesn't it have a range option just like warping?
Why do ISD ships have a physical detectable presence in the game? Why is it even possible for a Polaris frigate to bump a normal ship?
Why is an ISD member being held accountable for clear insufficiencies in tools provide by CCP?

ebta blin
Posted - 2007.05.26 00:52:00 - [263]
 

exactly.

though ... time to bid ccp good bye unless they wake up, smell cofee and stop man love between their dev team and some swedish schoolchildren.

Angelus Damelon
Posted - 2007.05.26 00:52:00 - [264]
 

Originally by: Herculite
Goons are losing at EvE and now want to hurt the game in revenge? I doubt the fine folks from SA would ever do something so low to a online game, so what they posted must all be true as written, without embellishment or being completely taken out of context.


Ad hominem attacks: for when you don't know what you're talking about, but feel the need to smack anyway.

Katchoo
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
Systematic-Chaos
Posted - 2007.05.26 00:52:00 - [265]
 

Originally by: Hidiyoshi
I'll no longer pay any subscription fees due to this scandal. CCP lost me as a customer for life.


Can I have your stuff ?

ihk
Posted - 2007.05.26 00:52:00 - [266]
 

Edited by: ihk on 26/05/2007 00:52:48
Originally by: Wylker
I predict that you'll find a lot of smoke, mirrors, and noise, and very little fact or proof.

you probably meant to quote someone criticising ccp's possible response(as when you quote a post it doesn't target a post but a post number apparently)
it's understandable to mess things up like that as the volunteer gestapo deletes every other post admirably fast

Fiendish Lo
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.05.26 00:53:00 - [267]
 

Originally by: CCP Arkanon
Thank you for your input, we are following this thread and would very much like to ask for your cooperation in verifying some of the statements made, particularly those directly involving CCP staff or volunteers. Please note that we will need some details to be able to investigate, the more the better.



I'd be very interested in knowing what Sharkbait and the employee who banned Raekhan have to say about it. Any news?

mr unpleasantry
Posted - 2007.05.26 00:53:00 - [268]
 

This type of news comes up far too often. It is disturbing as well.

If we are supposed to TRUST your internal processes then remember this ENRON, AOL/TimeWarner, and MCI Worldcom said the same thing. Then they filed for 3 of the largest accounting scandals in US history. Fear your "flawless" internal auditing and beware of the monitors monitoring the monitors.

Though no system is ever perfect in one way or another it catches up with everyone.

Poolpy
dev zero
Posted - 2007.05.26 00:54:00 - [269]
 

Originally by: Wylker

I predict that you'll find a lot of smoke, mirrors, and noise, and very little fact or proof.


Like the t20 thing ? Rolling Eyes

Scouty McPiperunner
Posted - 2007.05.26 00:54:00 - [270]
 

Originally by: Hallowed Point
All BoB members might want to refrain from posting; when the t20 scandal came out, BoB members posted early and often about how it was all lies. Then, it turned out to be true, and those BoB members looked very silly indeed.


If BoB members don't care about their Alliance being involved in scandal after scandal because winning is everything, they don't care about looking silly on a message board.


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