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Incantare
Posted - 2007.05.25 23:53:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Blacklight
To be honest I'm more interested how CCP intend to deal with a particular element of the player base who think that just because their personal drama llama is on the loose it's then ok to spam these forums to the degree that they have to be taken down to deal with it.





People are spamming the forums because the original, constructive thread got deleted.

Miz Cenuij
Caldari
Posted - 2007.05.25 23:53:00 - [32]
 

LOL, just so its clear to everyone, im still not a GM and had nothing to do with this incident either !


Stahlregen
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.05.25 23:53:00 - [33]
 

Hey look on the bright side, At least we know there is no way in hell that CCP is going to stuff this up as badly as they they did last time.. right guys?

You know with all the 3rd party news sources now clamouring over yet another CCP controversy isn't it about time you decided to scrap it all and actually hire a staff with a single shred of professionalism who aren't completely obsessed with blatant cheating and someone who is capable of investigating these allegations without keeping the results hidden away, you know, the thing that he's getting paid for?

Gilbert Drillerson
Varorra
Knights of the Rising Phoenix
Posted - 2007.05.25 23:53:00 - [34]
 

On may 9 we didnt have any POS issues, infact im 99% sure we didnt have a pos. However we did have some BPO's that stubbornly didnt want to lock down, so if this is all a misunderstanding, that may have been the issue the Dev was trying to fix.

However it doesnt explain the deleted petition and the other failed attempts to get an explanation.

I am one of the two actual CEO's of Darkstar 1, so this is not guesswork.

R3dSh1ft
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.05.25 23:53:00 - [35]
 

and what about the banning of the ISD reporter (of 1.5 years no less) without an explanation to him?

Astarte Nosferatu
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2007.05.25 23:54:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Blacklight
To be honest I'm more interested how CCP intend to deal with a particular element of the player base who think that just because their personal drama llama is on the loose it's then ok to spam these forums to the degree that they have to be taken down to deal with it.




Yeah, cause that's far worse than what BoB has done. Rolling Eyes

Besides, if you guys never cheated in the first place, this spamming wouldn't have happend.

Iwone
Posted - 2007.05.25 23:54:00 - [37]
 

I would love to ask CCP ppl to tell us how many more times we need to "trust" them.

You ppl are ruining your own game.

Ryunosuke Kusanagi
Posted - 2007.05.25 23:54:00 - [38]
 

that took care of the corporation issue, what about the other issues in the letter? :)

Imperator Jora'h
Posted - 2007.05.25 23:54:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Blacklight
To be honest I'm more interested how CCP intend to deal with a particular element of the player base who think that just because their personal drama llama is on the loose it's then ok to spam these forums to the degree that they have to be taken down to deal with it.




/signed

That they have an axe to grind fine. Word got out well enough. To continue with the spam to the point these forums are taken down goes too far even if you agree with their "drama llama" (liked that one).

Chaomos Skynard
Anarchistic Carebears
Bloodbound.
Posted - 2007.05.25 23:54:00 - [40]
 

*snip*. What kind of customer service is this!!!

I know of 6 already

We are paying customers or does CCP forget this? I love this game but not the people running it. Not sure how much of allegations are in fact true, but certain some of them are.

And just pointing at bob is not answer, they just most noticeable, this prob is all throughout the game and is just ****

Please do not discuss warnings or bans on the forums please - Jacques

Dalaakita Vendro
Perkone
Posted - 2007.05.25 23:54:00 - [41]
 

That's funny because everyone in DS1 including the CEO had no knowledge of any 'bugged POS' and didn't file any petitions regarding it?

Miz Cenuij
Caldari
Posted - 2007.05.25 23:54:00 - [42]
 

Anyone wishing to discuss these allogations in game, use the channel dramabomb, where arguments are being made for both sides of said argument.

Guy Noir
Posted - 2007.05.25 23:54:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Blacklight
To be honest I'm more interested how CCP intend to deal with a particular element of the player base who think that just because their personal drama llama is on the loose it's then ok to spam these forums to the degree that they have to be taken down to deal with it.




Someone needs a hug

Mr Xerox
Posted - 2007.05.25 23:54:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Vasant
Quote:
Our preliminary findings indicate that what happened what simply a developer doing his job ingame. He joined the corporation in order to access their POS, which was bugged to determine what it was building and relay the info to his alliance mates."


fixed


Yes, he couldn't possibly have been looking for a Titan building POS :)

Kalahari Wayrest
Posted - 2007.05.25 23:54:00 - [45]
 

Well I understand why it's brief...
But why does it only deal with one of the concerns raised?
I'm not suggesting they're valid or invalid concerns, but they should have at least been acknowleged (even briefly Razz )

Angry Sheep
Amarr
Aur0ra
Posted - 2007.05.25 23:54:00 - [46]
 

Ive read the open letter from another internet site as its not allowed here, quite shocked really, in fact gob smacked.



Charleton Heston
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2007.05.25 23:55:00 - [47]
 

So, what about the more relevant question, how BOB got a CCP employee to intervein in an ISD doing his job within a minute, and then subsequently fired?

Because that is a lot more important than the GM joining and leaving a corp.

Laura Faorun
Posted - 2007.05.25 23:55:00 - [48]
 

Why can BoB summon Admiral CHarmarjarajhkjshdf to fire ISD at will?

Just curious, cause you know, it's pretty much the major issue here.

Guff Dandy
Posted - 2007.05.25 23:55:00 - [49]
 

Why did this response specifically ignore the BoB/ISD complaint?

Because I'm pretty sure I know why.

Zy'or Tealon
Celtic Infusion Army
Posted - 2007.05.25 23:55:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: R3dSh1ft
and what about the banning of the ISD reporter (of 1.5 years no less) without an explanation to him?

That's a seperate issue and of no concern to us.

Emrod
Amarr
Legion Du Lys
Posted - 2007.05.25 23:55:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Blacklight
To be honest I'm more interested how CCP intend to deal with a particular element of the player base who think that just because their personal drama llama is on the loose it's then ok to spam these forums to the degree that they have to be taken down to deal with it.




Bob are honest and dont cheat.Laughing


Toujours
Caldari
Clan Shadow Wolf
Sylph Alliance
Posted - 2007.05.25 23:55:00 - [52]
 

nothing ****es people off more than paying money , following the rules of the game and then getting hosed with no recourse. Whether this really happened or not , we have fraps of a bob titan pos bowling 3 times in less than 15 minutes. Oh imagine that a gm showed up and he quit. 3 times he did this and if he claims ignorance and you start banning people for voicing our displeasure over the way you run the game that we pay to play is a bit disheartening. We want some answers and if it happened like the T2 lottery that devs rigged for their buddies in BoB then they need to be handled a bit more than a tap on the wrist.

Wanmeili
Posted - 2007.05.25 23:55:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: R3dSh1ft
and what about the banning of the ISD reporter (of 1.5 years no less) without an explanation to him?


THIS.

Why were the other two issues brought up by the open letter not addressed?

deadtear
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.05.25 23:56:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: Laura Faorun
Why can BoB summon Admiral CHarmarjarajhkjshdf to fire ISD at will?

Just curious, cause you know, it's pretty much the major issue here.

Myk Taison
Unknown Force
SOLAR WING
Posted - 2007.05.25 23:56:00 - [55]
 

also why haven't the other issues been addressed that were raised tia

Imperator Jora'h
Posted - 2007.05.25 23:56:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Hebachica
"Our preliminary findings indicate that what happened what simply a developer doing his job ingame. He joined the corporation in order to access their POS, which was bugged."

LOOOL!!!!! Yea right.


I would think if a Dev with all their Dev Powers available to them could easily be more circumspect if they were up to no good rather than leaving an audit trail a mile wide for anyone to spot.

Mister Wednesday
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.05.25 23:56:00 - [57]
 

Edited by: Mister Wednesday on 25/05/2007 23:55:11
Why are you ignoring the Raekhan stuff?

Also why are all RP events rigged? Way to develop a thriving community there, jerks.

sableye
principle of motion
Posted - 2007.05.25 23:56:00 - [58]
 

hmmmph no idea what to make of it, if ccp's customer service could'nt make me quit eve though I doubt there cheating would either :)

Beastoria
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.05.25 23:56:00 - [59]
 

CCP I for one will wait for your excuse for this ... and I don't really care about the corp joining thing ... Im more interested in the ISD thing.

Please investigate BOTH accusations and release two seperate new items.

Test84984949
Posted - 2007.05.25 23:56:00 - [60]
 

The sad part is for the loyal player base of 3+ years that find out in the end that their was really no level playing field in Eve. The entities that we've worked our butts off to challenge are cheaters, and developers of this game.

Sorry Bob, your success in game will always have the dark shadow of cheating over it. The people that fight against you win in the end. Take over all of 0.0, doesn't really matter. You will always be known as the alliance that cheated/exploited their way to the top.


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