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DeadDuck
Amarr
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2007.05.21 15:14:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Buxaroo

But tbh, I didn't expect the north to fold up so quickly. From what I have heard only FLA have put up a fight and they didn't seem to get much support from their "allies" D2. D2 have proved to be the biggest paper tiger that has ever been seen in New Eden.


Yeah we are weak remember ... thats why we have 100 hostile capitals and super capitals up here, and guess what, none of those is from BOB ...

"Bring it" you said so many times times months ago... well we went down there. But the supposed standings reset, the "BOB vs everyone" transformed in NAP everyone to kill the "northern carebears"... well for carebears we are giving your friends a hell of a fight trust me. If you dont believe me ask MC or your friends, because they know what I'm talking about. You dont. ugh





Skape Gote
Caldari
Shinra
Posted - 2007.05.21 15:16:00 - [32]
 


*snip* Don't flame. - Rauth Kivaro (mods@ccpgames.com)

IntegralHellsing
Gallente
Privateers Of Virtue
Vicious OuTLaW
Posted - 2007.05.21 15:31:00 - [33]
 

Edited by: IntegralHellsing on 21/05/2007 15:30:05
Originally by: DeadDuck
Originally by: Buxaroo

But tbh, I didn't expect the north to fold up so quickly. From what I have heard only FLA have put up a fight and they didn't seem to get much support from their "allies" D2. D2 have proved to be the biggest paper tiger that has ever been seen in New Eden.


Yeah we are weak remember ... thats why we have 100 hostile capitals and super capitals up here, and guess what, none of those is from BOB ...

"Bring it" you said so many times times months ago... well we went down there. But the supposed standings reset, the "BOB vs everyone" transformed in NAP everyone to kill the "northern carebears"... well for carebears we are giving your friends a hell of a fight trust me. If you dont believe me ask MC or your friends, because they know what I'm talking about. You dont. ugh
well you do realize that bobbit pet alliances = part of bob forces, no?
since bobbit pet alliances = 'SLAVES' (according to some)
and since SLAVES belong to their master (which is bob, in this case),
those non-bob cap ships still belong to bob, no? Laughing

ps. damn i feel like an idiot

Dakaris Zulu
Minmatar
Awww Diddums..
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2007.05.21 15:32:00 - [34]
 

Are they all playing on sisi??

would explain alot Shocked

DeckardIRL
Gallente
The Randoms
Posted - 2007.05.21 15:32:00 - [35]
 

D2 have failed to support their Northern Allies totally. In contrast BoB supports its allies to the max (yes despite the loss of LV space).

The Coalition forces on the North have all been over run so much so that MC is now in the heart of D2 territory - Branch. Word I have been getting is that D2 convoys have been running from Branch to Empire via Venal and Tenal for the last weeks.

Why would the victors of the Northern war want peace at this stage? I think the OP has some distant fondness for D2 and doesn't want to see it disappear. D2 are already leaving Branch... some one needs Uri Geller...

Deck

Keleborn
Caldari
the united
Posted - 2007.05.21 15:49:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: DeadDuck
Originally by: Buxaroo

But tbh, I didn't expect the north to fold up so quickly. From what I have heard only FLA have put up a fight and they didn't seem to get much support from their "allies" D2. D2 have proved to be the biggest paper tiger that has ever been seen in New Eden.


Yeah we are weak remember ... thats why we have 100 hostile capitals and super capitals up here, and guess what, none of those is from BOB ...

"Bring it" you said so many times times months ago... well we went down there. But the supposed standings reset, the "BOB vs everyone" transformed in NAP everyone to kill the "northern carebears"... well for carebears we are giving your friends a hell of a fight trust me. If you dont believe me ask MC or your friends, because they know what I'm talking about. You dont. ugh


By "bringing it" you mean the whole north don't you. Enjoy Jita chump.

Hast
Amarr
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.05.21 15:54:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: DeadDuck
"BOB vs everyone" transformed in NAP everyone to kill the "northern carebears"...




ahahaha, that is so rich coming from the north Laughing

doctorstupid2
Gallente
The Accursed
Posted - 2007.05.21 15:56:00 - [38]
 

Edited by: doctorstupid2 on 21/05/2007 15:57:38
Originally by: 3xcit3
Originally by: Murphy
Originally by: 3xcit3
dont talk about things you dont have any idea of.. no fights? i think we gave mc some of the greatest battles they ever fought! watch our killboard..


Kind of hard to when every battle you lock it down so nobody can view how bad you got spanked.


and you are? Rolling Eyes
That's Murphy. See how it says Murphy right there by his post?

PS: He's primary.

Esau Cairn
Caldari
Bombshell Cartel
Posted - 2007.05.21 16:00:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Dashhammer II
But behind those people there are players that have only one goal. That goal is to progress themselves, their friends and their corps, in peace.

Umm, being still very noobish and stuff, I know that this probably isn't my place, but, still, I have to speak up. Uh, what, exactly are you smoking? Razz

If we were all at peace, what would we do all day? Mine and rat and run missions? Now, I do some of the aforementioned, but I don't do it as an end in itself. I do it to support my PvP habit. I wouldn't still be playing Eve if it weren't for the PvPing. You know, a shot of adrenaline after a day of cube-sitting. I really do feel sorry for all those people sitting in empire who haven't figured out where the real fun is. (And I do realize that there are a few who never, ever want to PvP. I have to think they're the minority. Conflict makes the world go round.)

Hell, I even like all the drama on the forums. If you don't feel passionate about stuff, you're leading a shell of a life. Yes, even if it's only 'Internet space-ships'. It's OK to care about it. I only know one person in my corp in RL, but they're all good people and if they needed my help and I was able to give it, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

I've done all the other stuff. If there was no pew-pew, I wouldn't still be playing. Peace is overrated. Of course, that's just my opinion.

Kcel Chim
Caldari
Arcane Technologies
The Five
Posted - 2007.05.21 16:03:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: DeadDuck

"Bring it" you said so many times times months ago... well we went down there. But the supposed standings reset, the "BOB vs everyone" transformed in NAP everyone to kill the "northern carebears"... well for carebears we are giving your friends a hell of a fight trust me. If you dont believe me ask MC or your friends, because they know what I'm talking about. You dont. ugh



Sounds like somewhere on the road to Nol you took a wrong turn or ? Considering the fact that the coalition was in the cards for months before the actual war started. A coalition d2 was busy setting up according to various d2 and ex d2 posters on this board. You brought everyone and tried the apetrain to Nol. Sadly you failed because you couldnt bring it.

As for the numbers, search the forum for them at the start of the war and now. You will see that at each time of the conflict alliance forces were and are outnumbered by coalition forces. Main difference is that the coalition and especially the northern branch of it cant bolster it up with quality. Fix, Xelas and the Fountain locals stonewalled you off long before any BoB or MC forces came to help. All the time you were busy calling those valliant defenders "Slaves" "pets" and other terms.
Makes the medicine now alot more sour to swallow or ?

DeadDuck
Amarr
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2007.05.21 16:11:00 - [41]
 

To all the ones laughing at the Northern NAPS just to say that I'm proud of all the true friends we have up here. We are not the ones saying that "we are uber PVP'ers", "we are the best" , blah, blah, blah, blah.... but when the moment of truth comes .... NAP NAP NAP...


Carebear out


Chrony
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2007.05.21 16:13:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: DeadDuck
Yeah we are weak remember ... thats why we have 100 hostile capitals and super capitals up here, and guess what, none of those is from BOB ...

"Bring it" you said so many times times months ago... well we went down there. But the supposed standings reset, the "BOB vs everyone" transformed in NAP everyone to kill the "northern carebears"...




Right, 5000 vs 20000 players wasn't enough eh? I'm sure 1500 vs 20000 would have been better for you.................................................

Are you Coaliation guys seriouslyy complaining about the numbers now? Rolling Eyes

Kcel Chim
Caldari
Arcane Technologies
The Five
Posted - 2007.05.21 16:19:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: DeadDuck
To all the ones laughing at the Northern NAPS just to say that I'm proud of all the true friends we have up here. We are not the ones saying that "we are uber PVP'ers", "we are the best" , blah, blah, blah, blah.... but when the moment of truth comes .... NAP NAP NAP...


Carebear out




uhm m8 you really see that this argument is stupid in the face of the universal war you declared on bob right ?
Most of BoBs allies were on the coalitions "todo"-list anyways. Fix, Xelas, MC, Rise and all the other locals got pushed around, called names and marked as targets by your coalition and now you cry about the fact that they god forbid actually all team up to fight the common enemy off ?

Last but not least the label "we are uber pvp'ers" requires a basic understanding of the game. A good alliance is not meant to have no friends to show they are good or are you implying that d2 knew they sucked and hence, since they never wanted that uber label, choose to nap left and right ? Afterall the north has been napland since ages. While the alliance forces came together quiet recently, pushed together from outter pressure.

Ikarushka
Gallente
CryoTech Engineering
Posted - 2007.05.21 16:23:00 - [44]
 

stage one: denial... Linkage

Buxaroo
Gallente
The Army of The Ori
IMPERIAL LEGI0N
Posted - 2007.05.21 16:26:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: 3xcit3
and btw.. its hard to help your allies when yourself being attacked and you have to defend your space. when we have the time or not the numbers to engange the enemies in our space we move and help our allies..



Well that didn't stop us from helping our allies did it when you guys were roaming all around. That's a sad excuse coming from D2 when you and your allies completely outnumbered BoB+allies at the beginning. You had RAZOR/Morsus Mihi/Sparta/FLA/Triumvirate/IRON/CORE and various others in the north. And that's not even including RAGoon/IAC/TFC/CA/ and others in the south.

Give you an example of why your argument doesn't work. You say you didn't have the numbers or any way to fight all these fronts. Well how is it that BoB was able to do it? Why is it that we were able to come and help FIX when your northern allies were trying to take the stations there, but yet on the same day after killing your friends, we were able to bring majority of our fleet up to Y-2ANO and completely annihilate your dread fleet laying seige to our POS's?

You guys had the same type of ships, you had a Titan and not to mention the numbers. And let us not forget the attempt by the goonies to come into the system to create lag and were instead met with Orange Species DD.

You had the same hardware. You had more numbers. But yet you failed.

MIGHTYDWC
Gallente
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2007.05.21 16:37:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: 3xcit3
read seelens last battle report..



Why can't people spell Seleene's name right? Everytime someone spells Seleene's name wrong, kittens are made to scrap corpses off the capitals. Many kittens die in the process. Please think of the kittens.





Pilk
Caldari
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2007.05.21 16:42:00 - [47]
 

Edited by: Pilk on 21/05/2007 16:43:18
Edit: spelling
Originally by: DeadDuck
To all the ones laughing at the Northern NAPS just to say that I'm proud of all the true friends we have up here. We are not the ones saying that "we are uber PVP'ers", "we are the best" , blah, blah, blah, blah.... but when the moment of truth comes .... NAP NAP NAP...


Carebear out

Let's take this to its logical conclusion.

If I boast I am an "uber PvP'er", then I must be willing to single-handedly take on every other pilot in Eve, simultaneously?

Sometimes, even if you *ARE* an uber PvP'er, you need help. BoB hired MC, and asked its existing residents to help with the war effort--AXE, Coreli, Xelas, Aftermath, etc., etc.. You seriously propose to compare that with D2 NAP'ing people who they've never even met, giggling each time at the thought of their "train" growing longer?

The reality is, D2 saw non-aggression pacts as a means to meta-blob against BoB--that is, to blob in several regions simultaneously, not just blob in a single system with a single fleet. The only alliance I can think of offhand that BoB NAP'd in response to Eve War I was MC. Can you say the same about yourself?

--P

e3joker
Caldari
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire
Posted - 2007.05.21 16:47:00 - [48]
 

Edited by: e3joker on 21/05/2007 16:48:01
most fun I have ever had in this game was defending fountain. Targets were plentiful, smack was minimal, and it was an everyday thing.

NAP-Northern Alliance People


larietta
Gallente
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.05.21 16:48:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: doctorstupid2
Edited by: doctorstupid2 on 21/05/2007 15:57:38
Originally by: 3xcit3
Originally by: Murphy
Originally by: 3xcit3
dont talk about things you dont have any idea of.. no fights? i think we gave mc some of the greatest battles they ever fought! watch our killboard..


Kind of hard to when every battle you lock it down so nobody can view how bad you got spanked.


and you are? Rolling Eyes
That's Murphy. See how it says Murphy right there by his post?

PS: He's primary.

what he said

Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2007.05.21 16:49:00 - [50]
 

War good.

Peace bad.


Dashhammer II
Amarr
O RLY corp
YTMND.
Posted - 2007.05.21 16:49:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Esau Cairn
Originally by: Dashhammer II
But behind those people there are players that have only one goal. That goal is to progress themselves, their friends and their corps, in peace.


If we were all at peace, what would we do all day? Mine and rat and run missions? Now, I do some of the aforementioned, but I don't do it as an end in itself. I do it to support my PvP habit. I wouldn't still be playing Eve if it weren't for the PvPing. Conflict makes the world go round.)

Peace is overrated. Of course, that's just my opinion.


There is a difference between pvping and outright war. I mean hell, I can gate camp you, I can pop in with a carrier, web and scram ya. I can knock down your pos while you are asleep. I can chase you out of a region. I can coordinate 200 man 'search and destroy' teams. I can organize ten man inty fleets for the sole purpose of fast hauler ganks. I can camp you into a station. I can probe you out after you've logged. I can wardec people that appear friendly to you. I can take the 0.0 station that you have all your belongings in. I can open a cyno right on top of your ice mining op. And when you ask me why I'm doing it, perhaps I'll tell you 'I'm just having fun.'

But maybe it won't be a good enough answer for you at that point in time. Maybe you'll have taken my actions personally. Or... maybe you won't. Maybe you'll just go hang out in low sec and forget about it.

Crovan
Gallente
The Praxis Initiative
Sodalitas XX
Posted - 2007.05.21 16:50:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Butter Dog
War good.

Peace bad.




I can get behind that statement.

Dashhammer II
Amarr
O RLY corp
YTMND.
Posted - 2007.05.21 16:57:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Buxaroo
Originally by: 3xcit3
and btw.. its hard to help your allies when yourself being attacked and you have to defend your space. when we have the time or not the numbers to engange the enemies in our space we move and help our allies..



Well that didn't stop us from helping our allies did it when you guys were roaming all around. That's a sad excuse coming from D2 when you and your allies completely outnumbered BoB+allies at the beginning. You had RAZOR/Morsus Mihi/Sparta/FLA/Triumvirate/IRON/CORE and various others in the north. And that's not even including RAGoon/IAC/TFC/CA/ and others in the south.

Give you an example of why your argument doesn't work. You say you didn't have the numbers or any way to fight all these fronts. Well how is it that BoB was able to do it? Why is it that we were able to come and help FIX when your northern allies were trying to take the stations there, but yet on the same day after killing your friends, we were able to bring majority of our fleet up to Y-2ANO and completely annihilate your dread fleet laying seige to our POS's?

You guys had the same type of ships, you had a Titan and not to mention the numbers. And let us not forget the attempt by the goonies to come into the system to create lag and were instead met with Orange Species DD.

You had the same hardware. You had more numbers. But yet you failed.


Okay, alright, lets all calm down here. Old wounds open all too easilly. This is not the time to point fingers and remind everyone about who said what. This is about the coalition and what they plan on doing. Now I know that some of the coalition want to go out in a blaze of glory and I know that some of them want to try to turn the war around. But yet more of them just want to stop the hate. So let me pose a question-

Who from D2, has the authority, to request a truce? AND- if a truce was requested, how would the member corps of D2 feel about that?

larietta
Gallente
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.05.21 17:05:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: Dashhammer II
Originally by: Buxaroo
Originally by: 3xcit3
and btw.. its hard to help your allies when yourself being attacked and you have to defend your space. when we have the time or not the numbers to engange the enemies in our space we move and help our allies..



Well that didn't stop us from helping our allies did it when you guys were roaming all around. That's a sad excuse coming from D2 when you and your allies completely outnumbered BoB+allies at the beginning. You had RAZOR/Morsus Mihi/Sparta/FLA/Triumvirate/IRON/CORE and various others in the north. And that's not even including RAGoon/IAC/TFC/CA/ and others in the south.

Give you an example of why your argument doesn't work. You say you didn't have the numbers or any way to fight all these fronts. Well how is it that BoB was able to do it? Why is it that we were able to come and help FIX when your northern allies were trying to take the stations there, but yet on the same day after killing your friends, we were able to bring majority of our fleet up to Y-2ANO and completely annihilate your dread fleet laying seige to our POS's?

You guys had the same type of ships, you had a Titan and not to mention the numbers. And let us not forget the attempt by the goonies to come into the system to create lag and were instead met with Orange Species DD.

You had the same hardware. You had more numbers. But yet you failed.


Okay, alright, lets all calm down here. Old wounds open all too easilly. This is not the time to point fingers and remind everyone about who said what. This is about the coalition and what they plan on doing. Now I know that some of the coalition want to go out in a blaze of glory and I know that some of them want to try to turn the war around. But yet more of them just want to stop the hate. So let me pose a question-

Who from D2, has the authority, to request a truce? AND- if a truce was requested, how would the member corps of D2 feel about that?

is it up to d2 Question

Steven McWayne
Gallente
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2007.05.21 17:08:00 - [55]
 

*snip* Flaimbait, not the place for that sort of comment. - hutch

Ling Xiao
Minmatar
Prism Project Technologies
Posted - 2007.05.21 17:23:00 - [56]
 

Biggest denial since "we didn't want that anyway!" Laughing

ispyozs
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
Posted - 2007.05.21 17:27:00 - [57]
 

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Angeles
Caldari
Black Aces
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2007.05.21 17:43:00 - [58]
 

what?

ispyozs
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
Posted - 2007.05.21 18:20:00 - [59]
 

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Evenfall Phoenix
Caldari
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.05.21 18:23:00 - [60]
 

Edited by: Evenfall Phoenix on 21/05/2007 19:03:55
Edited by: Evenfall Phoenix on 21/05/2007 18:23:23
Originally by: Kcel Chim





uhm m8 you really see that this argument is stupid in the face of the universal war you declared on bob right ?
Most of BoBs allies were on the coalitions "todo"-list anyways. Fix, Xelas, MC, Rise


You might want to omit MC there. They are a merc coalition remember, that means neutral to any and every war, their only job is to fight for their client.... well that was it until about 30 days into the "war."

To be honest MC is the main reason the north is having issues. They have tons of experience, are amazing pilots, great logistics. The problem is, and you can even see it from Seleen's post, is that they zerg capitals. And right now the only alliance that might be able to match the capital might of MC is RA.... and I have no clue what RA is doing right now (no jokes about plexing, I mean in terms of the war). When Goons and everyone else try to make up for lack of capitals by numbers (valid tactic) we find out we can't, because it causes too sever lag (no tin-foil hattery here either) the one tactic that could work is taken away (for valid reasons). I know plenty of people right now that are working on the skills to get capitals, but it's a ways off, and until a good number of them are set it'll be hard to match MC's power.

If MC had been in the war with LV it wouldn'tve ended so fast. Their capitals would have matched RA and the Goons, well the Goons would still do what they do best, swarm up.

RISE puts up a great fight, they definitly know what they are doing. Fix did what they could, but the fact that Fix didn't lose their space isn't so much attributed to "BoB would always come and support us and therefore we would win," after all BoB came and supported Gun (with Fix) and they lost quite a bit. It should be more attributed to the Coalition (from my perspective) not really wanting to take Fix space (I mean who wants to take Dark Shikari's space, everyone loves DS Laughing) kidding aside that's mostly why the Gun system went back into BoB's hands. I'm not even going to talk about Xelas, I have very little respect for them, they are probable the only BoB alliance that I don't respect. But hey, everyone has a right to their own views.

D2 is fighting, as is MM and other northern alliances. I haven't really heard much from the south, aside from BoB fighting Goons in 9-9 (it was 9-9 right?).

Edit: Gah the quote thing screwed up on me. Oh and Chrony fix your signerature. Your grammar mistakes are absolutly horrible... unless that was your intent... of course then you wouldn't be like the other BoB sigs where at least their spelling is professional.


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