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Saxon Hawke
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
Posted - 2007.05.16 17:31:00 - [1]
 

Dear Senator Blaque,

I would like to request a meeting with you, or a group of senators of your choosing, to discuss some of the issues currently happening in the Placid Region.

Briefly, I want to address:

The near continual gate camp which cuts off the Intaki System from high security space,

Arbitrary scanning of peaceful merchant vessels by Federation Customs in the Stacmon System, and

The commissioning of an independent study to determine the extent of the Intaki people's desire for self determination.

I look forward to hearing from you and thank you in advance for your attention to these matters.

Very truly yours,
Saxon Hawke,
Suresha, Intaki Liberation Front

Saxon Hawke
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
Posted - 2007.05.16 17:32:00 - [2]
 

Friends and neighbors

For weeks, I have been kept from traveling to my home on Intaki. First the gates leading to the planet were systematically camped. Then government agents arrived armed and en masse to scan and harass innocent civilians.

With so many things happening in Placid and with the need for pilots at its greatest, some of you may be asking, “Why has Saxon Hawke left Placid?” And rightly so. As a defender of prosperity in the region, I should by all rights be there to take up sword and drum against these grievances.

However, I am kept long from home by a more evil and malignant problem than the villainous scum who haunt the gates of Ostingele and Covryn. Namely, I speak the den of sloth and apathy known collectively as the Senate.

I am kept waiting by my desire to see the Intaki System peacefully released from the Federation. As such, I believe we must operate within the confines of the current governmental structure.

And so I seek a meeting with the leaders of the Senate, or even their assigns, to discuss the matters at hand. But to date, my petitions have fallen of deaf ears and mute tongues. Although my many exploits against pirates, drug peddlers and mercenaries have left me in high regard with the agents of the Senate, Senator Blaque and ilk continue to deny me an audience of any kind.

At this point I would be satisfied with a curt dismissal accompanied by a weak excuse of a need to address some other urgent matter, but only a stony silence continues.
Once again the bureaucracy has shown its complacency by choosing to ignore a situation it would rather not deal with. This is exactly the unresponsive governance that led to the genesis of the Intaki Separatist movement.

And so now I take to this galactic network to publicly ask the leadership of the Senate why they choose to ignore the needs of the people in the Placid Region and why they will not even talk with those who question their policies.

Varus Riaz
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2007.05.17 00:05:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Varus Riaz on 17/05/2007 00:04:07
You want to be independent of the Federation? The be independant of the Federation. Solve your problems yourself, seek to gather corporate allies like your colleague, but don't ask the government you want to leave to come solve your problem.

The Navy's stretched thin, and those of us who vocally support the Federation barely get any attention. To think that the Navy would deploy troops to help a dissident is laughable.

My suggestion, get out and fight. If you can't fight them, hire mercs to fight them, if you can't afford mercs, go start making isk until you can. If any Intaki state were to come into existence, you'd have to be on your own, so get used to it. And pointing fingers and whining about the problem isn't going to keep pirates from overrunning you.

Celestinus
Gallente
Posted - 2007.05.17 02:35:00 - [4]
 

Me, as fellow intakian, did once venture to our bloodline space. All I got was this lousy courier misson.

But that agent was hot though.

Nathaniel Hull
Caldari
808 Enterprises
Posted - 2007.05.17 04:05:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Varus Riaz
Edited by: Varus Riaz on 17/05/2007 00:04:07
You want to be independent of the Federation? The be independant of the Federation. Solve your problems yourself, seek to gather corporate allies like your colleague, but don't ask the government you want to leave to come solve your problem.

The Navy's stretched thin, and those of us who vocally support the Federation barely get any attention. To think that the Navy would deploy troops to help a dissident is laughable.

My suggestion, get out and fight. If you can't fight them, hire mercs to fight them, if you can't afford mercs, go start making isk until you can. If any Intaki state were to come into existence, you'd have to be on your own, so get used to it. And pointing fingers and whining about the problem isn't going to keep pirates from overrunning you.




Yes, and so the answer to your citizens is, well the Navy which should be better funded is stretched thin so your government cant really help you at this time. In this case thats like calling the local police and having them tell you they are out of cops.

But i bet that same "weak" navy will manage to resist a full on secession of the Intaki people. Not all the Intaki are dissedent so you are saying its acceptable to willingly sacrifice your citizens lives and more so because you dont agree with them? And you claim to be democratic! The fact is the Federation considers Intaki a backwater and doens't want to deal with it but wants the prestigue of having Placid, SERVE your citizens or they will be yours no more.

Souvera Corvus
THE PAROXYSM
Session Changes
Posted - 2007.05.17 04:43:00 - [6]
 

Another rash response from the Durandal organisation, whose only tactic regarding the Intaki question is to respond immoderately to all public discussion thereby encouraging critics of the Federation to become dissidents.

Might it have occured to you Riaz, that a more inclusive policy on behalf of the Federation might be more successful in keeping the Federation together? Which might include policing an area which it believes itself to have soveriegn power over.

A failure to do this has led to the current mood of disaffection with the Federation and questions over it's future. Yourself and your cohorts would seem to want to hasten this process when it's in the Federations best interests to slow it down.

As a suggestion, I might also say that as an inverterate defender of the Federation you might see it as your duty to help police it's sovereign space yourself. Unless of course you already see the area as autonomous and therefore none of your or the Federations concern?

And in answer to the inevitable and well-worn jibe that I am not present in the Federation myself to demonstrate my own commitment, I will contain myself to the remark that I will be happy to return when there would appear to be either a Federation worth fighting for, or an Intaki movement that has a more balanced approach as to its options regarding autonomy/secession.

I see more worth defending in the region of Molden Heath at this present time and the Minmatar Republic at large,where conflict with those who prey on innocent travellers is a daily occurrence.

Varus Riaz
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2007.05.17 09:04:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Souvera Corvus
Another rash response from the Durandal organisation, whose only tactic regarding the Intaki question is to respond immoderately to all public discussion thereby encouraging critics of the Federation to become dissidents.

Might it have occured to you Riaz, that a more inclusive policy on behalf of the Federation might be more successful in keeping the Federation together? Which might include policing an area which it believes itself to have soveriegn power over.

A failure to do this has led to the current mood of disaffection with the Federation and questions over it's future. Yourself and your cohorts would seem to want to hasten this process when it's in the Federations best interests to slow it down.

As a suggestion, I might also say that as an inverterate defender of the Federation you might see it as your duty to help police it's sovereign space yourself. Unless of course you already see the area as autonomous and therefore none of your or the Federations concern?

And in answer to the inevitable and well-worn jibe that I am not present in the Federation myself to demonstrate my own commitment, I will contain myself to the remark that I will be happy to return when there would appear to be either a Federation worth fighting for, or an Intaki movement that has a more balanced approach as to its options regarding autonomy/secession.

I see more worth defending in the region of Molden Heath at this present time and the Minmatar Republic at large,where conflict with those who prey on innocent travellers is a daily occurrence.


Rash? I prefer honest. Why is it I should be helping someone who wants to break away from the Federation again? Why is it the Federation Navy should be helping someone who will just as soon turn it's back on the Federation? I honestly can't see a reason. Inclusive policy, please. You want the Federation to provide the services and then you're still going to advocate running off.

As for patrolling around Intaki, I heard the lack of patrols was by request of the Intaki people. Maybe I'm wrong, I'm just going by hearsay.

As for policing the Federation, yes I try to do my part where possible. I work with pro-Fed groups to try and take shots at pirates when they are vulnerable. I share intel with pro-Fed forces, and I fight alongside them, the rest of the capsuleer community isn't my concern, least of all part of the capsuleer community that wants to leave the Federation.

Here comes another quote for you my ILF friends, for all I care the pirates can roast the lot of you time and again. Drop the secession act, support the Federation and we'll have a nice chat about how to work against pirates. Until you do that though, I won't bat an eyelid if you die a thousand times to pirate guns.

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I will contain myself to the remark that I will be happy to return when there would appear to be either a Federation worth fighting for, or an Intaki movement that has a more balanced approach as to its options regarding autonomy/secession.


It's easy to sit and criticize folks from a distance. Instead of saying stuff like this, why don't you take some action? Take action yourself and try and bring reform to the ills of the nation, or lead your own group. The universe is shaped by the bold, not those who sat on their hands waiting.

You fight for the Republic, that's a fine and noble thing, but you still seem a bit silly to me commenting on the state of affairs of the Federation from the otherside of the galaxy.

Varus Riaz
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2007.05.17 09:31:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Nathaniel Hull
Originally by: Varus Riaz
Edited by: Varus Riaz on 17/05/2007 00:04:07
You want to be independent of the Federation? The be independant of the Federation. Solve your problems yourself, seek to gather corporate allies like your colleague, but don't ask the government you want to leave to come solve your problem.

The Navy's stretched thin, and those of us who vocally support the Federation barely get any attention. To think that the Navy would deploy troops to help a dissident is laughable.

My suggestion, get out and fight. If you can't fight them, hire mercs to fight them, if you can't afford mercs, go start making isk until you can. If any Intaki state were to come into existence, you'd have to be on your own, so get used to it. And pointing fingers and whining about the problem isn't going to keep pirates from overrunning you.




Yes, and so the answer to your citizens is, well the Navy which should be better funded is stretched thin so your government cant really help you at this time. In this case thats like calling the local police and having them tell you they are out of cops.

But i bet that same "weak" navy will manage to resist a full on secession of the Intaki people. Not all the Intaki are dissedent so you are saying its acceptable to willingly sacrifice your citizens lives and more so because you dont agree with them? And you claim to be democratic! The fact is the Federation considers Intaki a backwater and doens't want to deal with it but wants the prestigue of having Placid, SERVE your citizens or they will be yours no more.


I'm not saying it's acceptable, but the Federation has done everything it can to make the place just as safe for civilians as any other empire has done for their own low-security space. Any civilian travelling into low-security space knows the risk, as does any capsuleer. The loss of the misled crewman on ILF ships is surely regrettable, but to be honest, this isn't Amarr space. No one kidnapped them and forced them to serve on ships heading into unsecure space.

The cop anecdote, that's pretty much spot on. The Navy is underfunded, undermanned and illequipped to handle any situation. I've always been a proponent of a stronger navy, but as long as you have someone like Foiritain in there it's not going to happen. If the Navy could resist an Intaki uprising, it'd only be because such an uprising would be pathetically small and suffer from an even more severe lack of resources than the Navy itself does.

I don't know what I can be expected to do about this? Shall I walk into Foiritain's office with a gun and demand he raises the naval budget? That kind of defeats the purpose of a democracy. If the Intaki people and Federation citizens wanted a stronger navy, they should of voted for Blaque.

Placid a backwater? Well, compared to Essence and Sinq Laison, yes, it is. Does the Federation seek to support Placid to the best of it's ability and view it as a vital region? Yes. I don't see anywhere else where the Federation Customs is poking around fighting drug dealers. It's ridiculous to think the Federation doesn't care about Placid. And if the place is a backwater, what sort of prestige does it carry?

Irongut
Sex Money Guns
Posted - 2007.05.17 09:34:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Saxon Hawke

Arbitrary scanning of peaceful merchant vessels by Federation Customs in the Stacmon System, and



They're customs officers, what do you expect them to do? First you complain about a lack of government personnel defending the system then you complain about the presence of those who are there. Rolling Eyes

So did you lose your drugs/slaves/firearms/whatever stash to the pirates or the customs officers camping the gate? Very Happy


 

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