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Rod Blaine
Gallente
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2007.05.13 13:03:00 - [121]
 

Originally by: Corphus
something i walways wanted to know is the base hirng price for an "bring my enemy the apocalypse" service with the duration of a month?



A region or two of space ?

No seriously, stop whining at the MC for taking a contract. Stop whining that they need to be absolutely spotless and completely neutral. They don't.

They don't need you, you need them.

wierchas noobhunter
Caldari
FinFleet
Raiden.
Posted - 2007.05.13 13:04:00 - [122]
 

Originally by: Hast
My god the whining is reaching epic proportions these days. The funny thing is, that it doesent matter how much you whine, it wont change a thing.


i think u sooo wrong here ..
bob are next
if not well we know everything then ... Rolling EyesRolling Eyes

JackofHearts
Caldari
Unknown Soldiers
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2007.05.13 13:12:00 - [123]
 

All I can say is, it's been a great war, great battles, great fun.

Mah Kraah
Minmatar
Masuat'aa Matari
Posted - 2007.05.13 13:21:00 - [124]
 

Originally by: Olav
the way i see it the super blobs of cap ship on bothe sides take away something from the game. it kinda remember me of an old game called planetarion that after a while was ruled by a few big allaince and that made the game borring after a while. the same thing are happening to this game.

sorry posted with teh wronge character



only difference: planetarion got reset every 3 month to break off that endgame boredom.
eve dont have this option.
i personaly dont see that finit domination of the bob side. from my outsider view the coalition can still neutralize them if they where a more united front.
on the otherhand, if the coalition would do everything right it would result in battles of a sice the server can not even dream of handling.
ccp, u have a problem and tbh i dont have a idear about a solution.
a reset and restart from scratch would solve everything but it would also solve the headache of ccp how to spend all the money from the players coz they would not have any.....
the situation now is a verry sad indication that eve might not be infinite, ccp, prepare urselfe

Pwn4ge P4nts
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2007.05.13 15:43:00 - [125]
 

First!

Fred0
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2007.05.13 15:51:00 - [126]
 

Originally by: Rod Blaine
They don't need you, you need them.



We might need many things. However, iffy mercs are not one of them.

Witty Moniker
Caldari
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2007.05.13 16:00:00 - [127]
 

Edited by: Witty Moniker on 13/05/2007 16:03:46
Originally by: Hast
as said earlier in the thread, the coalition also has supercapitals. Its just that their owners have more or less gone awol and is pirating low sec with them. Laughing

That is part of the reason you are loosing. Also you should really start to work on tactics to either kill or work around motherships (hint render them useless) It is possible you know. And as I said earlier nothing is stopping the coalition from building their own supercaps.

Right now you are whining about the fact that the gamemechanics arent working in your favour and instead of adapting, you throw your toys out of the pram.





I love this guy.

Originally by: Tzrailasa
Edited by: Tzrailasa on 13/05/2007 11:21:16
Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf
CCP removed that advantage by capping systems to 700 pilots at a time.

I know that this is the principal tinfoilhattery theory, but look here for a more plausible theory (last half of post), especially since local in F-TE1T never exceeded 550 according to people who were there (I was lagged out in the next system and couldn't get in either). 550 is NOT equal to 700....




I was in F-T when it all happened, and I can confirm this. Yes there was lag, but it was playable.

Ace Frehley
Minmatar
Mercenaries of Andosia
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2007.05.13 16:35:00 - [128]
 

Btw, when you have whined enuf for today, I just wanna add abit extra cheese here.

WTB 0.0 SPACE!! We can´t pay more then 50 mil per station and we demand the sellers provide pos-sov and protect us when we suck on roids, npc´s or goin out for pew pew.

Contact me ingame Laughing

Ps, if 50 mil is not enuf we can provide freshly taken nudiepics of our gloryes ceo Ratboy Deblade posing with my archon driven upp his a** YARRRR!!

Narciss Sevar
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.05.13 16:40:00 - [129]
 

Originally by: Witty Moniker
Edited by: Witty Moniker on 13/05/2007 16:03:46
Originally by: Hast
as said earlier in the thread, the coalition also has supercapitals. Its just that their owners have more or less gone awol and is pirating low sec with them. Laughing

That is part of the reason you are loosing. Also you should really start to work on tactics to either kill or work around motherships (hint render them useless) It is possible you know. And as I said earlier nothing is stopping the coalition from building their own supercaps.

Right now you are whining about the fact that the gamemechanics arent working in your favour and instead of adapting, you throw your toys out of the pram.





I love this guy.

Originally by: Tzrailasa
Edited by: Tzrailasa on 13/05/2007 11:21:16
Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf
CCP removed that advantage by capping systems to 700 pilots at a time.

I know that this is the principal tinfoilhattery theory, but look here for a more plausible theory (last half of post), especially since local in F-TE1T never exceeded 550 according to people who were there (I was lagged out in the next system and couldn't get in either). 550 is NOT equal to 700....




I was in F-T when it all happened, and I can confirm this. Yes there was lag, but it was playable.


Reports from coalition capitals is they had insane lag. Personally i never made within 3 jumps due to some lagging out and freezing when jumping.

Johana Walker
Gallente
Lonestar Squadron
Posted - 2007.05.13 16:45:00 - [130]
 

Originally by: Guderian
Originally by: King Fury
*snip*


I'm sure that since bob is made up of loosers, you have nothing to worry about.

About Shinra merging into RKK, then its the same guys that were instrumental in helping LV claim all the space we once had, that are now in BOB. Yes, LV as an alliance got kicked out of our regions and crumpled under the pressure of the coalition. But now the same guys are back in Tenerifes and figthing the coalition in the systems LV owned, just under a different banner.

So your main in GOON might have disposed of LV name, but certainly not the members. And it sounds like it's driving you cracy that you couldn't get people to stop fighting you, so you can NPC/mine in peace.


Ah the great Shinra merger with RKK (god somebody in BE must be cracking up reading that). Hum BoB wouldn't accept a corp with >20m SP characters so they made you disban and dump your nubs. The fact that you went through with it says all the needs to be said about the honor of the former Shinra.


Tzrailasa
Gallente
Tzrailasa Corp
Posted - 2007.05.13 16:48:00 - [131]
 

Originally by: Narciss Sevar
Originally by: Witty Moniker
Stuff....I was in F-T when it all happened, and I can confirm this. Yes there was lag, but it was playable.

Reports from coalition capitals is they had insane lag. Personally i never made within 3 jumps due to some lagging out and freezing when jumping.

Everything but F-TE1T was lagged to a four-letter word or even worse (F-TE1T only halfway to a four-letter word). I was in the system next door (most of BoB actually weren't in F-TE1T), and had activation-lag of 10-15 minutes Evil or Very Mad
I finally got in after about 1-1.5 hours (and this was 1 jump!), and after bubbling up dreads for 10-20 minutes, my poor little 'dictor got blown up by drones I didn't even see.

Johana Walker
Gallente
Lonestar Squadron
Posted - 2007.05.13 16:50:00 - [132]
 

Edited by: Johana Walker on 13/05/2007 16:48:46
Double post

Dukath
Gallente
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2007.05.13 16:58:00 - [133]
 

Originally by: Tzrailasa
Originally by: Narciss Sevar
Originally by: Witty Moniker
Stuff....I was in F-T when it all happened, and I can confirm this. Yes there was lag, but it was playable.

Reports from coalition capitals is they had insane lag. Personally i never made within 3 jumps due to some lagging out and freezing when jumping.

Everything but F-TE1T was lagged to a four-letter word or even worse (F-TE1T only halfway to a four-letter word). I was in the system next door (most of BoB actually weren't in F-TE1T), and had activation-lag of 10-15 minutes Evil or Very Mad
I finally got in after about 1-1.5 hours (and this was 1 jump!), and after bubbling up dreads for 10-20 minutes, my poor little 'dictor got blown up by drones I didn't even see.


heh, i loaded a total of 8 (eight) hostile dreads at the POS. Then nothing else, not even a awrp out and warp in worked. Only after the battle was finished and everyone stopped shooting did the rest appear on my screen. All while I heard target calling and reports of 70 hostile dreads in grid ...

Nebba Kenezzer
Minmatar
Shinra
Posted - 2007.05.13 17:03:00 - [134]
 

Originally by: Johana Walker
Originally by: Guderian
Originally by: King Fury
*snip*


I'm sure that since bob is made up of loosers, you have nothing to worry about.

About Shinra merging into RKK, then its the same guys that were instrumental in helping LV claim all the space we once had, that are now in BOB. Yes, LV as an alliance got kicked out of our regions and crumpled under the pressure of the coalition. But now the same guys are back in Tenerifes and figthing the coalition in the systems LV owned, just under a different banner.

So your main in GOON might have disposed of LV name, but certainly not the members. And it sounds like it's driving you cracy that you couldn't get people to stop fighting you, so you can NPC/mine in peace.


Ah the great Shinra merger with RKK (god somebody in BE must be cracking up reading that). Hum BoB wouldn't accept a corp with >20m SP characters so they made you disban and dump your nubs. The fact that you went through with it says all the needs to be said about the honor of the former Shinra.




Indeed, it was great.

Thankfully, you are oblivious to the entire situation itself. In return for your glorious fanfare, I dare not enlighten you.

I hardly think you have room to speak on the subject of Honor in EVE--I see nothing but bitterness and aggravation flowing from your fingertips (the Icelandic gods of EVE would frown upon your obstructive lack of glee!)

Johana Walker
Gallente
Lonestar Squadron
Posted - 2007.05.13 17:08:00 - [135]
 

Originally by: Tzrailasa
Originally by: Narciss Sevar
Originally by: Witty Moniker
Stuff....I was in F-T when it all happened, and I can confirm this. Yes there was lag, but it was playable.

Reports from coalition capitals is they had insane lag. Personally i never made within 3 jumps due to some lagging out and freezing when jumping.

Everything but F-TE1T was lagged to a four-letter word or even worse (F-TE1T only halfway to a four-letter word). I was in the system next door (most of BoB actually weren't in F-TE1T), and had activation-lag of 10-15 minutes Evil or Very Mad
I finally got in after about 1-1.5 hours (and this was 1 jump!), and after bubbling up dreads for 10-20 minutes, my poor little 'dictor got blown up by drones I didn't even see.



It seems CCP is introducing POS jumpgates to help alleviate some of this. On the other hand as only the defenders will be able to use them I give it a 50/50 chance of failing horribly.


Tzrailasa
Gallente
Tzrailasa Corp
Posted - 2007.05.13 17:16:00 - [136]
 

Originally by: Johana Walker
Originally by: Tzrailasa
Everything but F-TE1T was lagged to a four-letter word or even worse (F-TE1T only halfway to a four-letter word). I was in the system next door (most of BoB actually weren't in F-TE1T), and had activation-lag of 10-15 minutes Evil or Very Mad
I finally got in after about 1-1.5 hours (and this was 1 jump!), and after bubbling up dreads for 10-20 minutes, my poor little 'dictor got blown up by drones I didn't even see.


It seems CCP is introducing POS jumpgates to help alleviate some of this. On the other hand as only the defenders will be able to use them I give it a 50/50 chance of failing horribly.

Jump-gates are a bad idea imho. It'll make roaming inside enemy territory a useless tool of war... What this game needs are MORE incentive for people to be out in space, not less....

Ditchdoctor
Minmatar
The Executives
Posted - 2007.05.13 17:18:00 - [137]
 

Originally by: Johana Walker
About 150 Caps and various super caps depending on the day. So far every single entity that has the superblob has taken one look at it, decided that there was no way in hell they could fight it, and gone away. Lets be honest the only thing keeping the superblob from sweaping all in it's way is the logistics time it take to take another system. Where are the rest of the coallition, desparately trying to build more (super)caps if they have any sense.

Unless somebody can kill the superblob this will all be over in two or three months with BoB controlling most of conquorable 0.0. At that point the only thing that can threaten the BoB age is CCP changing game mechanics so that supercaps can be built at NPC stations.

God some day's I hate this game.




Boo hoo. They picked a fight and the enemy unleashed a millitary power that destroys pretty much everything in its path. Get over it. Either start working together or read the tutorials on empire mission running because your going to need it.

Cheers

Guderian
Gallente
Shinra
Shinra Alliance
Posted - 2007.05.13 17:30:00 - [138]
 

Originally by: Ditchdoctor
Originally by: Johana Walker
About 150 Caps and various super caps depending on the day. So far every single entity that has the superblob has taken one look at it, decided that there was no way in hell they could fight it, and gone away. Lets be honest the only thing keeping the superblob from sweaping all in it's way is the logistics time it take to take another system. Where are the rest of the coallition, desparately trying to build more (super)caps if they have any sense.

Unless somebody can kill the superblob this will all be over in two or three months with BoB controlling most of conquorable 0.0. At that point the only thing that can threaten the BoB age is CCP changing game mechanics so that supercaps can be built at NPC stations.

God some day's I hate this game.




Boo hoo. They picked a fight and the enemy unleashed a millitary power that destroys pretty much everything in its path. Get over it. Either start working together or read the tutorials on empire mission running because your going to need it.

Cheers


I couldn't agree more. The coalition started the whole choo-choo train concept, and now they are crying about numbers and blobs. Where is that caddlewagon now? Wasn't it supposed to hit nol- acouple of months ago? Or are you content with capturing the complexes in detorid for RA?

Lakedaimon
Caldari
Relic Defense Initiative
The OSS
Posted - 2007.05.13 17:41:00 - [139]
 

Edited by: Lakedaimon on 13/05/2007 17:39:53
Quote:
Reports from coalition capitals is they had insane lag. Personally i never made within 3 jumps due to some lagging out and freezing when jumping.


I spent about three hours trying to get into F-T. When I finally did, exactly one enemy carrier and two friendly inties loaded when I warped to where the battle was. We shot at the carrier for a bit before it simply disappeared, and that's pretty much all that happened in F-T for me. Lag seems to affect everyone differently. Bad luck for me, I envy the ones who managed to get in-system and actually do something. That doesn't mean that I won't be there the next time.

What I don't understand is how some members of the Coalition can be complaining about blobs. Posts from the beginning of this war made by the Coalition praised their gigantic arsenal of capital ships and promised to steamroll the Alliance with said megafleet as well as to instantly replace any cap losses. Quite a few of you didn't seem to mind blob warfare back then, so why the change of heart now?

zincol
Caldari
S.A.S
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.05.13 17:47:00 - [140]
 

Sheeeeeeeeet guys they iz coming the maaahoouuuusssivvveee blob!!!1! Cntrl Q until they leave in 1week!

Good job to BoB for keeping them selfs together and not disbanding or falling into peices internaly unlike many other alliances in EvE when such events happen.

So what that BoB + Co has a massive cap blob or what ever,Cant beat em join em? Laughing
Anyways quit the moaning Mad

Firane
Caldari
Nothing Personal Inc
White Noise.
Posted - 2007.05.13 17:48:00 - [141]
 

Edited by: Firane on 13/05/2007 17:45:56
Originally by: Guderian
I couldn't agree more. The coalition started the whole choo-choo train concept, and now they are crying about numbers and blobs. Where is that caddlewagon now? Wasn't it supposed to hit nol- acouple of months ago? Or are you content with capturing the complexes in detorid for RA?
One does not simply walk into NOL...

Laughing

Tzrailasa
Gallente
Tzrailasa Corp
Posted - 2007.05.13 17:50:00 - [142]
 

Edited by: Tzrailasa on 13/05/2007 17:49:09
Originally by: Lakedaimon
Quote:
Reports from coalition capitals is they had insane lag. Personally i never made within 3 jumps due to some lagging out and freezing when jumping.


I spent about three hours trying to get into F-T. When I finally did, exactly one enemy carrier and two friendly inties loaded when I warped to where the battle was. We shot at the carrier for a bit before it simply disappeared, and that's pretty much all that happened in F-T for me. Lag seems to affect everyone differently. Bad luck for me, I envy the ones who managed to get in-system and actually do something. That doesn't mean that I won't be there the next time.

What I don't understand is how some members of the Coalition can be complaining about blobs. Posts from the beginning of this war made by the Coalition praised their gigantic arsenal of capital ships and promised to steamroll the Alliance with said megafleet as well as to instantly replace any cap losses. Quite a few of you didn't seem to mind blob warfare back then, so why the change of heart now?

The thing was, that they figured they'd use their Cap fleet with impunity.
I.e. jump in, start shooting the target, node lagging, node crashing. Target dying without any risk.

Trouble was, CCP fixed the bug they were intending to (ab)use... LaughingLaughingLaughing

FYI: The Cryalition Cap count is probably higher than ours.. You don't hear us whining though...

Fabrice Enchante
Gallente
Needles for Balloons
Posted - 2007.05.13 17:52:00 - [143]
 

One does not simply post on CAOD.

Hans Roaming
Gallente
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
Posted - 2007.05.13 17:55:00 - [144]
 

The Coalition cap ship count is the same if not more than the Alliance.

rig0r
Gallente
The Gravedigger Company
Posted - 2007.05.13 17:57:00 - [145]
 

I just killed the superblob. Everything is fine now. Return to your homes.

Dawn Princess
Gallente
Koshaku
Brutally Clever Empire
Posted - 2007.05.13 18:10:00 - [146]
 

This is why most vets are either joining bob or joining roaming ganka corps/alliances a la outbreak so that if a capital fleet comes its way they simply move on somewhere else.

Why risk 2bn isk ships in fights where you are 90% certain to lose them - just get in a HAC/cmd ship and go gank ratters. Much more civilised.


Varban II
Gallente
Cosmic Odyssey
YouWhat
Posted - 2007.05.13 23:26:00 - [147]
 

Edited by: Varban II on 13/05/2007 23:26:58
Well if the superblob annoys people so much just fit DD resistance fitting. Never thought of that have you Razz

V2 shows you his "I survived a DD and all i got was this lousy T-Shhirt" T-shirt

Dawn Princess
Gallente
Koshaku
Brutally Clever Empire
Posted - 2007.05.13 23:34:00 - [148]
 

Originally by: Varban II
Well if the superblob annoys people so much just fit DD resistance fitting. Never thought of that have you Razz


And when the enemy has one of each race doing every damage type what do you suggest then?

Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Naraka.
Posted - 2007.05.13 23:36:00 - [149]
 

Originally by: Dawn Princess
Originally by: Varban II
Well if the superblob annoys people so much just fit DD resistance fitting. Never thought of that have you Razz


And when the enemy has one of each race doing every damage type what do you suggest then?


Warp out?

Chirinako
Caldari
The Junkyard Dogs
Talos Coalition
Posted - 2007.05.13 23:40:00 - [150]
 

Wow. The north complain about us camping them with 100-150 people. The ultimate hypocracy.

At the beginning of this war, ED- in Querious was seiged by over 250 coalition pilots 3 nights in a row. You weren't complaining then were you? Of course not. You're only complaining now because we didn't lose our stations and you did. Verily it seems, the care cup is empty.

As to people complaining about MC's neutrality - If you were in Bob's shoes and had the resources to fund hiring a force like MC, you wouldn't be complaining. If you want to combat them, adapt. Don't whine. You can't win fleet battles on the forums.


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