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Hast
Amarr
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.05.12 23:43:00 - [31]
 

My god the whining is reaching epic proportions these days. The funny thing is, that it doesent matter how much you whine, it wont change a thing. Unless you get your frickin act together nothing is gonna change.

So get your act together... Noone is stopping you from building capital ships of your own. If you are too incompetent to get funding or the manpower together its hardly BoB's fault. And if you are worth your salts they wont even find out where you are building it either. So in the end suck it up or just quit.

P.S. can I have your stuff?

Johana Walker
Gallente
Lonestar Squadron
Posted - 2007.05.12 23:49:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Arenis Xemdal
Your covert implications that we blob with overwhelming force are absurd.

First point: Coalition brought 200 capitals into Delve for the F-TE1T theatre, 50 more than we had.

Second point: We only pulled those kinda numbers once.

Speaking from the best of my knowledge, you should be replacing FCs, not building more ships. We got jumped once and took a fairly good hit when 9 BoB dreadnaughts were downed, but returned the favour to the Coalition of Family Values at least ten times.

And lastly, the end was supposed to be nigh 2-3 months after EC-P8R. Are you saying we have to wait another 2-3 months until EVE is ours? :(

PS: The end is nigh.


Actually the current game mechanics are idiotic. I'm begging to feel like I'm playing a bad game of Space 1889 (not nocking that RPG BTW). Currently there is no asymetical threat to cap ships. Instead we are replaying the Russo-Japanesse War, all the observe reports say "big guns nothing else matters." What we need is a torpedo (and I don't mean the type that are in the game), something with which a smaller ship can be a credible threat to a cap ship with. Until then the numbers mean that the most cap firepower wins.

And please stop insulting coallition FC's. Your cap ships have how much in high end faction mods. You aren't out manuvering the coallition you are PWNing them the same way a HAC PWNs say an incursus. The other guy just dosn't have enough firepower and can't get it (well unless RA have been giving goons a cut of the complex loot...).


Seleene
Minmatar
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.05.12 23:50:00 - [33]
 


Hast
Amarr
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.05.12 23:54:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Johana Walker
Originally by: Arenis Xemdal
Your covert implications that we blob with overwhelming force are absurd.

First point: Coalition brought 200 capitals into Delve for the F-TE1T theatre, 50 more than we had.

Second point: We only pulled those kinda numbers once.

Speaking from the best of my knowledge, you should be replacing FCs, not building more ships. We got jumped once and took a fairly good hit when 9 BoB dreadnaughts were downed, but returned the favour to the Coalition of Family Values at least ten times.

And lastly, the end was supposed to be nigh 2-3 months after EC-P8R. Are you saying we have to wait another 2-3 months until EVE is ours? :(

PS: The end is nigh.


Actually the current game mechanics are idiotic. I'm begging to feel like I'm playing a bad game of Space 1889 (not nocking that RPG BTW). Currently there is no asymetical threat to cap ships. Instead we are replaying the Russo-Japanesse War, all the observe reports say "big guns nothing else matters." What we need is a torpedo (and I don't mean the type that are in the game), something with which a smaller ship can be a credible threat to a cap ship with. Until then the numbers mean that the most cap firepower wins.

And please stop insulting coallition FC's. Your cap ships have how much in high end faction mods. You aren't out manuvering the coallition you are PWNing them the same way a HAC PWNs say an incursus. The other guy just dosn't have enough firepower and can't get it (well unless RA have been giving goons a cut of the complex loot...).




so what your basicly saying is that you think its unfair that the people with the most assets and skill, both in building and employing stuff wins?

Because thats really what you are saying right now. You think its unfair that your t1 frigate blobs cant break a pos siege.

And now you are also complaining over the fact that BoB fit nice mods to their ships? Laughing

come on, give me a break, you are sounding redicilous.

Phrixus Zephyr
Gallente
MEK Enterprises
Posted - 2007.05.12 23:55:00 - [35]
 

Sooo.... Goonswarm and allies would be "M-M-M-MONSTER BLOB!"?

Given it a rest Mr Alt.

Croesus
Caldari
Titan Indurstrial
Posted - 2007.05.13 00:03:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Hast
My god the whining is reaching epic proportions these days. The funny thing is, that it doesent matter how much you whine, it wont change a thing. Unless you get your frickin act together nothing is gonna change.

So get your act together... Noone is stopping you from building capital ships of your own. If you are too incompetent to get funding or the manpower together its hardly BoB's fault. And if you are worth your salts they wont even find out where you are building it either. So in the end suck it up or just quit.

P.S. can I have your stuff?


haha whining about whining and you dont stop there but then start to preach. funny guy.

Rhaegor Stormborn
Minmatar
BURN EDEN
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2007.05.13 00:04:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Johana Walker
The other guy just dosn't have enough firepower and can't get it (well unless RA have been giving goons a cut of the complex loot...).


And whose fault is it that they have agreed to this? Surely, you are not blaming BoB or CCP for short-sighted agreements between alliances in the Coalition?

Hast
Amarr
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.05.13 00:05:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Croesus
Originally by: Hast
My god the whining is reaching epic proportions these days. The funny thing is, that it doesent matter how much you whine, it wont change a thing. Unless you get your frickin act together nothing is gonna change.

So get your act together... Noone is stopping you from building capital ships of your own. If you are too incompetent to get funding or the manpower together its hardly BoB's fault. And if you are worth your salts they wont even find out where you are building it either. So in the end suck it up or just quit.

P.S. can I have your stuff?


haha whining about whining and you dont stop there but then start to preach. funny guy.


how was my post a whine exactly? and if that was a whine, then your post was a whine too... And that makes this post a whine aswell...

AAAAAAAAAAAAAHH

Kirex
Gallente
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.05.13 00:07:00 - [39]
 

Obviously a lie because titans prevent blobing.

Croesus
Caldari
Titan Indurstrial
Posted - 2007.05.13 00:10:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Hast
Originally by: Croesus
Originally by: Hast
My god the whining is reaching epic proportions these days. The funny thing is, that it doesent matter how much you whine, it wont change a thing. Unless you get your frickin act together nothing is gonna change.

So get your act together... Noone is stopping you from building capital ships of your own. If you are too incompetent to get funding or the manpower together its hardly BoB's fault. And if you are worth your salts they wont even find out where you are building it either. So in the end suck it up or just quit.

P.S. can I have your stuff?


haha whining about whining and you dont stop there but then start to preach. funny guy.


how was my post a whine exactly? and if that was a whine, then your post was a whine too... And that makes this post a whine aswell...

AAAAAAAAAAAAAHH


yes its true, its impossible to post on caod without looking like a ******.

Baun
Gallente
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.05.13 00:12:00 - [41]
 

Please type in english only on the forums -Scyd ([email protected])

Johana Walker
Gallente
Lonestar Squadron
Posted - 2007.05.13 00:21:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Hast
Originally by: Johana Walker
Originally by: Arenis Xemdal
Your covert implications that we blob with overwhelming force are absurd.

First point: Coalition brought 200 capitals into Delve for the F-TE1T theatre, 50 more than we had.

Second point: We only pulled those kinda numbers once.

Speaking from the best of my knowledge, you should be replacing FCs, not building more ships. We got jumped once and took a fairly good hit when 9 BoB dreadnaughts were downed, but returned the favour to the Coalition of Family Values at least ten times.

And lastly, the end was supposed to be nigh 2-3 months after EC-P8R. Are you saying we have to wait another 2-3 months until EVE is ours? :(

PS: The end is nigh.


Actually the current game mechanics are idiotic. I'm begging to feel like I'm playing a bad game of Space 1889 (not nocking that RPG BTW). Currently there is no asymetical threat to cap ships. Instead we are replaying the Russo-Japanesse War, all the observe reports say "big guns nothing else matters." What we need is a torpedo (and I don't mean the type that are in the game), something with which a smaller ship can be a credible threat to a cap ship with. Until then the numbers mean that the most cap firepower wins.

And please stop insulting coallition FC's. Your cap ships have how much in high end faction mods. You aren't out manuvering the coallition you are PWNing them the same way a HAC PWNs say an incursus. The other guy just dosn't have enough firepower and can't get it (well unless RA have been giving goons a cut of the complex loot...).




so what your basicly saying is that you think its unfair that the people with the most assets and skill, both in building and employing stuff wins?

Because thats really what you are saying right now. You think its unfair that your t1 frigate blobs cant break a pos siege.

And now you are also complaining over the fact that BoB fit nice mods to their ships? Laughing

come on, give me a break, you are sounding redicilous.


Well lets see lets replace "skill points" with number of man hours to operate and
On December 7th 1941 a "blob" or relatively "low SP pilots" in "small ships" (ok airplane actually) took out the main US "dreadnaught fleet" anchored at Pearl Harbor. On June 4th 1942 the Americans returned the favor at a place called Midway.

Like I said biggest and best wins is classic battleship combat and you get, at best, the battle of Jutland. If you want to have dynamic combat you need a asyemtric threat to the cap ships. We don't have that now. And um last time I check the Pacific war had a bit more tactics than simple blobage, CCP could stand to take some notes.


Johana Walker
Gallente
Lonestar Squadron
Posted - 2007.05.13 00:25:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn
Originally by: Johana Walker
The other guy just dosn't have enough firepower and can't get it (well unless RA have been giving goons a cut of the complex loot...).


And whose fault is it that they have agreed to this? Surely, you are not blaming BoB or CCP for short-sighted agreements between alliances in the Coalition?


So you can harvest a cap ships worth of mods from your complexes how quickly? You should go into politics, I said the coallition can't gather top end mods for a huge dread fleet in a reasonable timeframe, and you turn around with this? Just what kind of spawn rate do you have down in BoB space !?!?!


Cassius Hawkeye
Minmatar
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.05.13 00:26:00 - [44]
 

Edited by: Cassius Hawkeye on 13/05/2007 00:24:42
Originally by: Victor Vision
The coalition put the POS containing the RKK shipyards into reinforced. Coalition Intelligence suggested a fetus-Titan as being in production in said shipyards.

For the attack the Coalition assembled a vast fleet numbering over 1000 pilots. Part of this fleet were roughly 200 capital ships.


This was quoted froom this thread on the 30th March.

http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=499356

About 6 weeks ago. Whether it's 100% true, who knows. But it seemed fairly accurate. So the coalition is more than capable of fighting toe to toe with their own super-blob - right?

No smack, no flame, my opinion, not my corps or alliances.

Amerame
Gallente
Kernel of War
Tau Ceti Federation
Posted - 2007.05.13 00:31:00 - [45]
 

If there were 20 different class of capital ships, I guess much fewer people would be whining about titans, but there is not. Capital fleet battle are not only extremely rare but also very little tactic is involved : all dreads are fitted more or less the same way, dreads can't move and can't do anything but activate guns.

If Eve alliance warfare is to remain capital ship pilots only, then give us a few hundreds more different capital ships, so we can actually have battle that don't suck and are not ONLY about numbers.

Attak
Minmatar
Trioptimum
Posted - 2007.05.13 00:32:00 - [46]
 

I don't think there's anyone out there that can deny how grate a cap ship blob is at wiping out your resistance. Yes, they are grate indeed. But this is just a little grater.

Deschenus Maximus
Amarr
Digital Fury Corporation
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2007.05.13 00:34:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Attak
I don't think there's anyone out there that can deny how grate a cap ship blob is at wiping out your resistance. Yes, they are grate indeed. But this is just a little grater.


k, seriously, give it a rest with that joke. Was funny the first time, yeah, but now it's time to find new material.

R0ot
Caldari
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.05.13 00:35:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Kyguard
That's no moon..


hehe, i lol'd Laughing

Rhaegor Stormborn
Minmatar
BURN EDEN
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2007.05.13 00:37:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Johana Walker
I said the coallition can't gather top end mods for a huge dread fleet in a reasonable timeframe, and you turn around with this? Just what kind of spawn rate do you have down in BoB space !?!?!




No, you said "They can't". You did not qualify it with any comments about time-frame. You stated that the reason they can not is because they gave all their plexes away to RA. They could have fought for their plexes, or ratted and mined like tons of other people to build their capital fleet, but they have choosen not to, then they decided to declare war on someone who had to fore-sight and tactical intelligence to do so, and now they are crying about it on the forums while embarassing themselves and their entire Coalition.

Jonathan Peterbilt
Caldari
Wyland-Yutani Corporation
Posted - 2007.05.13 00:38:00 - [50]
 

I thought you will kill them all with 3000 frigs and tech 1 cruisers ..... Isn't that how you killed V and LV ?

Iasius
Gallente
Short Bus Pole Dancers
Posted - 2007.05.13 00:42:00 - [51]
 

Yeah lets see lots of capital on capital ship action its the future. The Moros would make a great support ship Wink. Fit nanos on them too, oh damn that got nerfed. I was in the system when MC lost the cap yard but i fitted a cloak to a geddon as i knew it would be a lag fast. I painted 4 warhammer 40k figures, very productive op.

I guess if BOB put huge capitals on the table its very hard to counter. But selective precise use of capitals by the coalition would yield results. But it seems the use of capitals is a confidence game. If one side gets theirs spanked the rest get used for car shows.


Xeliya
Caldari
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance
Posted - 2007.05.13 00:45:00 - [52]
 

Edited by: Xeliya on 13/05/2007 00:43:42

Originally by: Johana Walker
Well lets see lets replace "skill points" with number of man hours to operate and
On December 7th 1941 a "blob" or relatively "low SP pilots" in "small ships" (ok airplane actually) took out the main US "dreadnaught fleet" anchored at Pearl Harbor. On June 4th 1942 the Americans returned the favor at a place called Midway.

Using WWII in comparison is to Eve is bad m'kay. Now if you want to use that comparison, the Coalition killed a LV Titan Fetus, MC Mom Fetus and a BoB Captial Ship Yard. All they did was wake up a sleeping giant like the Japanese did.

laotse
Gallente
shangdi
Posted - 2007.05.13 00:51:00 - [53]
 

Please post with content at least somewhat near to the topic -Scyd

Shinigami
Gallente
Shinra
Posted - 2007.05.13 01:02:00 - [54]
 

Flaming is not allowed in CAOD. Please contact us at [email protected] if you have any questions or comments, -Scyd ([email protected])

dastommy79
Caldari
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas.
Posted - 2007.05.13 01:03:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Xeliya
Edited by: Xeliya on 13/05/2007 00:43:42

Originally by: Johana Walker
Well lets see lets replace "skill points" with number of man hours to operate and
On December 7th 1941 a "blob" or relatively "low SP pilots" in "small ships" (ok airplane actually) took out the main US "dreadnaught fleet" anchored at Pearl Harbor. On June 4th 1942 the Americans returned the favor at a place called Midway.

Using WWII in comparison is to Eve is bad m'kay. Now if you want to use that comparison, the Coalition killed a LV Titan Fetus, MC Mom Fetus and a BoB Captial Ship Yard. All they did was wake up a sleeping giant like the Japanese did.



ah ffs can we stop comparing eve to real life wars please. And admiral yamamoto never said that qoute, that was made up for the movie

Superblobs suck. If your forces have no chance of sucess then be surprised when people just wont engage it. So if bob is complaining of not gettin any fights, come out with something a bit more even. whatever


Fedaykinn
Caldari
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2007.05.13 01:07:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: OzaLoni
Originally by: sakana
One does not simply kill a superblob


Sorry, there is but one version of this quote.

Quote:
One does not simply walk into fountain!


Please be sure to use the correct version of this quote in future.
As for the blob, there are always ways and means to dealing with blobs. The question is are you willing to think outside the box and try different theories ?


The question is can they be bothered anymore? Most people are starting to reliase how pointless it is fighting supercapital blobs, the dwindling number of active users prooves this (plus the whole dev misconduct). Eve is going into recess now instead of progress im afraid.

Give it a few more years and itll be over when theres about 50 Titans active

Ace Frehley
Minmatar
Mercenaries of Andosia
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2007.05.13 01:10:00 - [57]
 

Who cares.... Rolling Eyes

Stop worreing, relax just play

Corphus
Gallente
STK Scientific
The Initiative.
Posted - 2007.05.13 01:12:00 - [58]
 

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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr
Digital Fury Corporation
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2007.05.13 01:15:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Ace Frehley
Who cares.... Rolling Eyes

Stop worreing, relax just play


<3 Ace

Darc Kaahar
Gallente
Cruoris Seraphim
Exalted.
Posted - 2007.05.13 01:17:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Ace Frehley
Who cares.... Rolling Eyes

Stop worreing, relax just play


He's right you know :)


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