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Freylor
Gallente
SnowSink Enterprises.
Posted - 2007.05.12 22:50:00 - [1]
 

This isnt in the last itemdb, however it is possible to showinfo this on Sisi..

So explanations?

Linkage

Kali Cortez
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.05.12 22:54:00 - [2]
 

lol?

its for Revelations 2 Laughing

like "new"

get it? Laughing

Xaroth Brook
Minmatar
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2007.05.12 22:55:00 - [3]
 

rtfdb?


http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=464

you really think CCP -only- adds new things when they update the item db?

Minnu
Minmatar
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2007.05.12 22:57:00 - [4]
 

You must fu***** kidding me Freylor

Will Hunter
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.05.12 23:16:00 - [5]
 

siege mode for carriers, but removes the ability to use drones while activated, basically it turns a carrier/mothership in to a pure logistics platform for the front line.

ToxicFire
Phoenix Knights
Posted - 2007.05.12 23:36:00 - [6]
 

aye its the gearing to force carriers into there intially intended roles of logistic vessels rather than uber e-peens that they've become

Felysta Sandorn
Celestial Apocalypse
Posted - 2007.05.13 01:44:00 - [7]
 

Oh noes, must black-out sensitive test-server information...

Freylor
Gallente
SnowSink Enterprises.
Posted - 2007.05.13 01:57:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Felysta Sandorn
Oh noes, must black-out sensitive test-server information...


Not really was just a combination of lots of different screenies so it was black or white and white looked ugly

Dahak2150
Arm of Orion
Posted - 2007.05.13 02:02:00 - [9]
 

I see it as a "Crap I'm screwed at this rate, go turtle and hope help arrives in time" kind of thing.

Cuts off all of the carrier's offensive capability in return for massively boosting it's tanking and logistic abilities.

Ionia
Advanced Manufacturing
Posted - 2007.05.13 03:05:00 - [10]
 

The energy transfer bonuses are borked, they need to be changed to prevent free cap creation.

Haffrage
Regeneration
Posted - 2007.05.13 03:20:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Ionia
The energy transfer bonuses are borked, they need to be changed to prevent free cap creation.

AFAIK that's the intention. Named and T2 Cap transfers create cap as well. The "penalty" is that you need two people fit specifically for it to get any gain out of it. You also get a better cap spent:HP gained ratio with shield transfers and remote reps and boosters than you do with personal ones.

Siege
Minmatar
Siegecraft Bounty Hunting
Posted - 2007.05.13 03:28:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Haffrage
Originally by: Ionia
The energy transfer bonuses are borked, they need to be changed to prevent free cap creation.

AFAIK that's the intention. Named and T2 Cap transfers create cap as well. The "penalty" is that you need two people fit specifically for it to get any gain out of it. You also get a better cap spent:HP gained ratio with shield transfers and remote reps and boosters than you do with personal ones.


What he said!

That, plus it needs to burn some strontium to activate.

Hippo117
Caldari
Wings of Redemption
Black Flag Alliance
Posted - 2007.05.13 03:28:00 - [13]
 

Is this implying that capital transfer module range bonuses work now?

Ernest Graefenberg
Minmatar
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2007.05.13 03:35:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Haffrage
Originally by: Ionia
The energy transfer bonuses are borked, they need to be changed to prevent free cap creation.

AFAIK that's the intention. Named and T2 Cap transfers create cap as well. The "penalty" is that you need two people fit specifically for it to get any gain out of it. You also get a better cap spent:HP gained ratio with shield transfers and remote reps and boosters than you do with personal ones.


300 cap/s per module is a pretty damn stupid intention. If I had to guess, it goes hand in hand with EW immunity since it's copying every other mechanic of siege mode.

Removing even more dynamics from capital warfare and marginalizing support entirely goes completely against what all the outcry lately has been about :/

Tiberyya Za
Bellum Aeternus
Imperial 0rder
Posted - 2007.05.13 05:29:00 - [15]
 

Don't forget tracking links are logistics too. :)

Vmir Gallahasen
Gallente
United Mining And Distribution
Posted - 2007.05.13 07:39:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Hippo117
Is this implying that capital transfer module range bonuses work now?

Is this a new thing? I've never had trouble with my remote reps/transfers. Both shield and armor transfer range of my thanatos is 52.5km, with energy xfer at 15km (since Thanatos gets no bonus for that).

Do you mean that the transfer range bonuses don't work for non-capital logistics mods? They don't, nor were they ever meant to. It's intended.


ToxicFire
Phoenix Knights
Posted - 2007.05.13 10:33:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Dahak2150
I see it as a "Crap I'm screwed at this rate, go turtle and hope help arrives in time" kind of thing.

Cuts off all of the carrier's offensive capability in return for massively boosting it's tanking and logistic abilities.


Uhhh the carrier shouldn't be flying without support in the first place.... if it is you deserve to be popped.

Francesca Dell'Agio
Posted - 2007.05.13 10:36:00 - [18]
 

don't worry, Triage is perfectly vulnerable to remote sensor dampening, extremely even, more so then what carriers now have trouble with ..

000Hunter000
Gallente
Missiles 'R' Us
Posted - 2007.05.13 11:29:00 - [19]
 

Arn't these things going to be logistics ship mod as well?

what i read u should be able to fit them on carriers and the logistics cruisers, which might finally give that one a decent role.

but it's beeing tested, so we will see what happens.

hilaw
Posted - 2007.05.13 12:33:00 - [20]
 

Love to have one of these to test on my carrier Laughing

Drake Mezcal
Quam Singulari
Session Changes
Posted - 2007.05.13 13:57:00 - [21]
 

Dont Motherships get a sort of ECM bomb which drops every1s target locking,

Like a ECM burst just with a massive radius?

Sonos SAGD
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2007.05.13 14:12:00 - [22]
 

wow -50% hull/armor/shield duration Bonus?

So does that mean the the minnie carrier will get a new bonus since every other carrier can/(will be able to do) now do what we can. after all


hilaw
Posted - 2007.05.13 14:21:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: hilaw on 13/05/2007 14:19:58
It will still be better at remote repairing, even if its of an even smaller margin, but the one that I would be even more concerned about is the thantos.. with no drones out its bonus really is wasted. Might as well give all of them resistance bonuses if they are going to be sitting on the front line, otherwise in their intended role two are going to excel...

The Internets
Posted - 2007.05.13 14:50:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Sonos SAGD
wow -50% hull/armor/shield duration Bonus?

So does that mean the the minnie carrier will get a new bonus since every other carrier can/(will be able to do) now do what we can. after all




The Nidhoggur now has a Target Painter bonus (5% per level).

DeadProphet
Black Eclipse Corp
KenZoku
Posted - 2007.05.13 15:16:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: The Internets
Originally by: Sonos SAGD
wow -50% hull/armor/shield duration Bonus?

So does that mean the the minnie carrier will get a new bonus since every other carrier can/(will be able to do) now do what we can. after all




The Nidhoggur now has a Target Painter bonus (5% per level).


lol :)

Darpz
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.05.13 17:44:00 - [26]
 

Edited by: Darpz on 13/05/2007 17:43:48
Originally by: Sonos SAGD
wow -50% hull/armor/shield duration Bonus?

So does that mean the the minnie carrier will get a new bonus since every other carrier can/(will be able to do) now do what we can. after all




if your using a carrier in a triage role the nidy is now the best carrier quit complaining. 5-10 nidys in a circle jerk can fend off 50 dreads (thats about 25-50k per sec of raw sustainable shield reping) by reping the tower they are attacking

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2007.05.13 17:52:00 - [27]
 

omgomgomg

BOOST LOGISTICS

Darpz
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.05.13 17:57:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Francesca Dell'Agio
don't worry, Triage is perfectly vulnerable to remote sensor dampening, extremely even, more so then what carriers now have trouble with ..



not really since the ships can easily circle jerk for cap now a boosting nidy can run 2x Sensor Boosters and a few ECCM in the lows to keep its lock range high enough to remote rep a POS

hilaw
Posted - 2007.05.13 18:00:00 - [29]
 

And that 900% sensor res bonus might help somewhat Wink

Aldir Rundal
The Order of Chivalry
Nex Eternus
Posted - 2007.05.13 18:08:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: hilaw
And that 900% sensor res bonus might help somewhat Wink


I needs to be matched with a range bonus aswell, though maybe not 900%. Else we're still screwed when we get sensor damped.


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