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MissileRus
Posted - 2007.04.26 14:58:00 - [31]
 

you got a problem with alts? do ya? huh do ya? PUNK! YARRRR!!

thx for the exploit fix, whatever it was.. ugh

Laserotaku
TITANIC Killer
Posted - 2007.04.26 14:58:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Maximillian Power
Originally by: Laserotaku
Originally by: Maximillian Power
Originally by: Laserotaku
at least we have few altposts who try to sway public opinion Embarassed


lol - was that directed at me Rolling Eyes

I've been accused of a lot of things but that just takes the proverbial biscuit tbh


no, it was directed for alts Surprised


anyway - don't want to go any further off topic - so i'll say fair enough.

I just don't get exactly who in the list of responses you were actually getting at. My bad.


alright, lets not make quotemonsters Embarassed

Katana Sengoku
Minmatar
OX Syndicate Shipyards
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2007.04.26 15:02:00 - [33]
 

I'm curious to see what lengths people go to in this game to try and be better and more succesful. If you can't tell us what the exploit was, can you tell us what they were gaining? ... or what others were losing?


CCP Wrangler

Posted - 2007.04.26 15:04:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Katana Sengoku
I'm curious to see what lengths people go to in this game to try and be better and more succesful. If you can't tell us what the exploit was, can you tell us what they were gaining? ... or what others were losing?
No, only that whatever anyone gained was removed, and it didn't involve anyone losing anything.

Michayel Lyon
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.04.26 15:07:00 - [35]
 

Translation:

"We realized that the enemies of our friends in an undisclosed alliance had found a haxploit we installed for use by previously mentioned friends. Since haxploiting is not acceptable (except when used by our friends), we had to install new logging features and punish the haxploiters (not our friends, our friends' enemies). However, since we are not removing the haxploit itself (we care about our friends), we can't disclose the nature of the haxploit."

(Warning: Above text may contain heavy doses of sarcasm, and doesn't necessarily reflect the opinion of my alliance, my corp, or even myself.)

CCP Wrangler

Posted - 2007.04.26 15:18:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Michayel Lyon
Translation:

"We realized that the enemies of our friends in an undisclosed alliance had found a haxploit we installed for use by previously mentioned friends. Since haxploiting is not acceptable (except when used by our friends), we had to install new logging features and punish the haxploiters (not our friends, our friends' enemies). However, since we are not removing the haxploit itself (we care about our friends), we can't disclose the nature of the haxploit."

(Warning: Above text may contain heavy doses of sarcasm, and doesn't necessarily reflect the opinion of my alliance, my corp, or even myself.)
No, it means we have fixed the exploit and dealt with the ones who exploited, but we don't discuss exploits. Which is just what was written in my post.

Lynk BearMayhem
EVE RONIN
R-I-P
Posted - 2007.04.26 15:24:00 - [37]
 

Although we all trust CCP implicitly with running all aspects of the game and with making certain that everyone plays fairly,

I think the issue with wanting to know what the exploit was falls into the category of many wanting to make certain that neither they, their friends, their corporation, or their alliance was the victim of the exploit and that CCP just happened to miss it in their case.

Not to mention, we are just curious as hell and can't help ourselves, we love deep dark gossip. That's why we play an mmpog anyway.

Freylor
Gallente
SnowSink Enterprises.
Posted - 2007.04.26 15:31:00 - [38]
 

Personally i just dont like being bull****ted about 'server startup issues' when actually that wasnt the case.

CCP Wrangler

Posted - 2007.04.26 15:32:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Lynk BearMayhem
I think the issue with wanting to know what the exploit was falls into the category of many wanting to make certain that neither they, their friends, their corporation, or their alliance was the victim of the exploit and that CCP just happened to miss it in their case.
Ok then, no one, no ones friends, no corporations or alliances were the victim of this exploit. We have had Devs and GMs dealing with this and all consequences of the exploit was reversed.

ry ry
Heroes.
Merciless.
Posted - 2007.04.26 15:33:00 - [40]
 

so it was a duping bug then? ;p

dennyreborn
Posted - 2007.04.26 15:34:00 - [41]
 

there was no exploit that is the reason they are not telling us about it.

What really happened is the DEV and GM team all decided to go to the PUB for a few hours.
And since they cant leave the server running while no one is there they turned it off.

why else does Wrangler's breath smell like Whiskey even on the forums.

CCP Wrangler

Posted - 2007.04.26 15:35:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: dennyreborn
there was no exploit that is the reason they are not telling us about it.

What really happened is the DEV and GM team all decided to go to the PUB for a few hours.
And since they cant leave the server running while no one is there they turned it off.

why else does Wrangler's breath smell like Whiskey even on the forums.
I use it purely for medicinal purposes!!

ElrondMD
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.04.26 15:35:00 - [43]
 

What a joke, fix the sploit in someone elses time, we lose time every day.

Shameless Avenger
Posted - 2007.04.26 15:38:00 - [44]
 

Maybe we just have to wait for the whinage:

"OMG! I can't do <whatever> anymore. That was my play style. You nerfed the game, EVE it's gonna die! I will quit...cancelling account... etc etc."

Let's watch out for those. When it happens, <whatever> == fixed_exploit.Wink

And don't forget to ask if you can have their stuff, or at least the stuff that was not removed by GMs.Laughing


SiJira
Posted - 2007.04.26 15:43:00 - [45]
 

i think this thread deserves an epic - ITS JUST A GAME - and you can go spend time with the family while its down

you guys take some things for granted with your life and with the game if you get mad over an extended downtime

To CCP: i only hope you guys can continue the single persistent server as the subscribers go into the millions
it would be a shame for some of the core values of EVE to be broken down...

Lynk BearMayhem
EVE RONIN
R-I-P
Posted - 2007.04.26 16:02:00 - [46]
 

Thanks for the reply Wrangler, and I do actually feel better. Of course that does not appease my hedonistic desire to know all the little dark secrets. You know, all that inquiring minds bit. Anyway, thanks for finding the problem, for fixing the problem, and for letting us know the truth. It may hurt a bit at first, but things we will get better, and trust will return as long as CCP continues to tell the truth and to follow their policies. All in all, I love the game, otherwise I would not still be around. I also think CCP has done a good job, but us customers always want more.

As for the it's just a game thing, I don't know how much time you spend playing this derned thing, but the it's just a game does not fly.

There are many aspects of the corporate and alliance life I just can't participate in because I do have a life and can not dedicate that kind of game play. Of course that does not stop me from playing when I can or from incurring the wrath of my significant other when she finds out that I'm gonna be tied up for a couple hours online with my alternate life friends.

You get out what you put in, RL or game.

Ar Inziladun
Rage For Order
Systematic-Chaos
Posted - 2007.04.26 16:03:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: SiJira
i think this thread deserves an epic - ITS JUST A GAME - and you can go spend time with the family while its down

you guys take some things for granted with your life and with the game if you get mad over an extended downtime

To CCP: i only hope you guys can continue the single persistent server as the subscribers go into the millions
it would be a shame for some of the core values of EVE to be broken down...


No it is more frustration on the part that it interrupts people's routines, plans, endeavours, etc. I for one have to wait until I get home to start my skill that could have been started this morning before I headed out for the day. You add up these unscheduled DT, or Extended DT, over the course of the month/year, it adds up to a lot of missed training time.

SiJira
Posted - 2007.04.26 16:08:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Ar Inziladun
Originally by: SiJira
i think this thread deserves an epic - ITS JUST A GAME - and you can go spend time with the family while its down

you guys take some things for granted with your life and with the game if you get mad over an extended downtime

To CCP: i only hope you guys can continue the single persistent server as the subscribers go into the millions
it would be a shame for some of the core values of EVE to be broken down...


No it is more frustration on the part that it interrupts people's routines, plans, endeavours, etc. I for one have to wait until I get home to start my skill that could have been started this morning before I headed out for the day. You add up these unscheduled DT, or Extended DT, over the course of the month/year, it adds up to a lot of missed training time.


train big skills whenever you go offline - the 12 hour or less ones should be done when you are semi-at your keyboard.

Ar Inziladun
Rage For Order
Systematic-Chaos
Posted - 2007.04.26 16:09:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Lynk BearMayhem
...Of course that does not stop me from playing when I can or from incurring the wrath of my significant other when she finds out that I'm gonna be tied up for a couple hours online with my alternate life friends.

You get out what you put in, RL or game.


Ha ha ha! I get that too. "Why can't you leave your computer?" Me "I just started a mission or OP and it will take 2-3 hours." My Other "Sleep on the couch!" lol

Montague Zooma
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2007.04.26 16:13:00 - [50]
 

Frankly, there are so many things in "normal gameplay" in Eve that resemble exploits in other games, I'd find it reassuring to know what an actual Eve exploit is.

DragonRiderTao
Posted - 2007.04.26 16:14:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Ar Inziladun
Originally by: Lynk BearMayhem
...Of course that does not stop me from playing when I can or from incurring the wrath of my significant other when she finds out that I'm gonna be tied up for a couple hours online with my alternate life friends.

You get out what you put in, RL or game.


Ha ha ha! I get that too. "Why can't you leave your computer?" Me "I just started a mission or OP and it will take 2-3 hours." My Other "Sleep on the couch!" lol


That is when you say, "I pay the bills honey I get to sleep where I want.

ry ry
Heroes.
Merciless.
Posted - 2007.04.26 16:17:00 - [52]
 

and spend the next month sleeping with your own hand. :(

Tarron Sarek
Gallente
Biotronics Inc.
Initiative Mercenaries
Posted - 2007.04.26 16:29:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: CCP Wrangler
(..)dealing with this and all consequences of the exploit was reversed.
Well, if that's true I'm happy and "good work!" from my part.
It seems you've got it right, this time.


Adaris
E X I U S
Posted - 2007.04.26 16:32:00 - [54]
 

Not a problem Wrangler, its important to deal with exploits. Very important.


Verite Rendition
Caldari
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
Posted - 2007.04.26 16:33:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Montague Zooma
Frankly, there are so many things in "normal gameplay" in Eve that resemble exploits in other games, I'd find it reassuring to know what an actual Eve exploit is.
Agreed. This game has a reputation (and rightfully earned) that nothing is an exploit no matter how obvious it is until the devs can be bothered to patch it out or make a statement on it. At the very least it would be nice to know what kind of exploit it was, even if we can't have the specific details. It must have been something really uber for the devs to go through this kind of effort to patch it out.

QwaarJet
Gallente
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.04.26 16:39:00 - [56]
 

Quote:
Our policy is not to discuss exploits


Your "policy" seems to be to not reveal anything about anything, it's getting quite annoying now. If your policy is to not talk about exploits even after they have been fixed, then change your policy. All this cloak and dagger stuff annoys the hell out of me.

Ymsc Zod
No Quarter.
Vae Victis.
Posted - 2007.04.26 16:41:00 - [57]
 

If exploits can't be told, why do we have a section in the patch notes that tell us exploits that have been fixed?

Xtro 2
Caldari
El Bastardos
EVESpace
Posted - 2007.04.26 16:46:00 - [58]
 

Sheer comedy, the Management tell us something bad happened, and that its now fixed, no reason to panic, and with this good news, some people with their sharp intelect and wit decide to rant at the GM's for something so trivial its unbelieveble.

Just take good news for what it is.... good news!

dookes
Gallente
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.04.26 16:52:00 - [59]
 

It was most likely the marked thing where people could buy lots of ships the after a while they would show up in there hangar and their wallet would go -. Witch people might have used to thier advantage. Ofc i dunno, just guessing. ugh

Verite Rendition
Caldari
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
Posted - 2007.04.26 16:55:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Xtro 2
Sheer comedy, the Management tell us something bad happened, and that its now fixed, no reason to panic, and with this good news, some people with their sharp intelect and wit decide to rant at the GM's for something so trivial its unbelieveble.

Just take good news for what it is.... good news!
Yes, and the chocolate ration has been increased this week to 20g (even though it was 25g last week). Baseless claims, even from CCP, don't have meaning without something to back them up.


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