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king jks
Stain Empire
Posted - 2007.04.19 23:29:00 - [1]

Edited by: king jks on 19/04/2007 23:29:05

1x tractor beam

Large gist c-type
2x T2 specific hardeners
boost amp II


2x CCC

Assuming that setup, would it be better than a raven? I have no idea how to fit a raven regularly, also Gist c-type XL's are 600mil vs c-type large's 150.

EDIT: I guess I should say I'm not going to be spending 1bil on a ship, I want the best ship to do L4's with the least amount of money spent, but still do them in a reasonable amount of time.

Marquis Dean
Indigo Fade
Posted - 2007.04.19 23:33:00 - [2]

Better than a Raven in what way? It'll tank better but it won't have nearly the same damage output. Probably about balanced between them, but i'd go for the NH cause it's more fun, faster, and better vs scrambling frigs in an emergency.

Posted - 2007.04.19 23:45:00 - [3]

Edited by: Kailiani on 19/04/2007 23:41:53
I'm not going to be spending 1bil on a ship

Nighthawk :P

PS sorry for off topic but I may have you confused for someone else, I think you killed my friends caracal(we were both in one) when we were noobs, in "mara" system I believe.

king jks
Stain Empire
Posted - 2007.04.20 00:13:00 - [4]

Yea I think I remember that, was I in a vexor or something?

Zeph Solaris
Shark Investments
Posted - 2007.04.20 00:36:00 - [5]

I've found that more DPS is better for lvl 4s than tanking. Go with the Raven.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2007.04.20 11:03:00 - [6]

Edited by: Akita T on 20/04/2007 11:03:32

Hello, and welcome to "why the frack do you activetank a mission Nighthawk if you want a cheap and effective setup" ?
The only problem is in skills/implants needed to fit that... shouldn't be a problem for a NH user, you probably have all needed skills already anyway.

6x HML II + whatever fits
3x T2 (active/passive) hardners/invuls + 2x LSE II
3x BCU II + 2x SPR II (or go "more tanky" with 2x BCU II + 3x SPR II)
2x Purger I

Same damage output, better tank, a bit more vulnerable to NOS but who cares.
With 2 SPRs, should be able to fit T2 EM/Invul/Invul and run them forever (no-NOS situation) with maxed out cap skills.
You won't even need to ever swap your hardners for any L4 mission, unless you go against Blood Raiders and you're silly enough to sit in their NOS range.
Switch to passive resistance amps for full passive setup (up to 3 SPRs or even 4 SPRs if needed) and no longer care about NOS at all, ever.

Active-tanking a NH is only better (compared to passive tanking it) for the uberfat wallets... faction boosters, officer PDUs, crystal implants. A T1 passive tank beats a T2 activetank on a NH, and a T2 passive tank beats a "budget" faction active tank.

Marquis Dean
Indigo Fade
Posted - 2007.04.20 11:32:00 - [7]

Originally by: Akita T

Everytime someone says that, I die a little inside.

Seriously people, go outside, meet girls, have a beer. Wash your hair ffs.

Quillan Rage
Imperial Republic Of the North
Posted - 2007.04.20 11:33:00 - [8]

I actually use a gisti A-type on the NH, taken from my level 4 mission running Cerberus.

Do the Guristas, can do everyone no issues.


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