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Ferocious FeAr
Caldari
THE FINAL STAND
Everto Rex Regis
Posted - 2007.03.30 01:59:00 - [841]
 

Originally by: Troubadour
If it was BoB and friends losing 57ish capitals and killing a POS with a capital assembly array, everyone would be saying, "OMG BOD IS DED NOW!" Instead of debating whether or not there actually was a titan in production in the array. Even if there was a Titan, would it change the fact the coalition lost 57 odd capitals in doing so? Maybe it would make them feel a bit better about it, which is what this thread has turned into. Coalition folks and their alts trying to make some kind of sense out of the huge beating they took today. Well I got some news for you, you lost, big time. Titan kill or not.


Bingo was his nameo.

Riley Craven
Caldari
Raata Invicti
Reckoning.
Posted - 2007.03.30 02:00:00 - [842]
 

I think really, if the coalition had 200+ cap ships in system like they said they did, the only surprising thing is that BoB didnt kill more of them.

Given the quality of their probers and the skill of the fleet, I'd find it hard to believe there were more than 100 of their cap ships actaully in system.

But meh I have been wrong before.
I'm just glad the coalition got tricked and kick in the teeth. BoB all the way.

Diamond Dog
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2007.03.30 02:01:00 - [843]
 

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Audri Fisher
Caldari
Burning Bush Enterprises
Posted - 2007.03.30 02:02:00 - [844]
 

Originally by: AKULA UrQuan
Shocked

Why are you people trying to debate the concept of "loses" with russians?

QFMFT

Shamis Orzoz
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.03.30 02:02:00 - [845]
 

Sweet. I can't wait for my titan. I only need 700 t1 frigates to defend the capital shipyards. This should be fun. Very Happy

did I mention I was recruiting?




DeathGrip
Amarr
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2007.03.30 02:04:00 - [846]
 

Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Sweet. I can't wait for my titan. I only need 700 t1 frigates to defend the capital shipyards. This should be fun. Very Happy

did I mention I was recruiting?






Honestly think of the damage 700 Rocket Kestrels could do Shocked

ishkabibble
Gallente
Dark Knights of Deneb
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2007.03.30 02:05:00 - [847]
 

Originally by: Gungankllr
Prince Akeem: Good morning my neighbors!
A neighbor: Hey, fu** you!
Prince Akeem: Yes, yes! Fu** you, too!

Laughing



You sir, win this thread

Eddie Murphy Raw > Eddie Murphy Dr. Doolittle

Superbus Maximus
Gallente
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.03.30 02:06:00 - [848]
 

Originally by: DeathGrip
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Sweet. I can't wait for my titan. I only need 700 t1 frigates to defend the capital shipyards. This should be fun. Very Happy

did I mention I was recruiting?






Honestly think of the damage 700 Rocket Kestrels could do Shocked


Yeah take down a dread in a few seconds and we can just keep coming back while the attacking force is still trying to get in their support fleet.

Nostic
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2007.03.30 02:08:00 - [849]
 

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boogaboob
Caldari
Arctic Wolves
RaVeN Federation
Posted - 2007.03.30 02:09:00 - [850]
 

Edited by: boogaboob on 30/03/2007 02:06:40
You know what this is?

This is the BEST outcome evar!

Why?

Because everyone's happy, and everyone wins!

The Coalition achieved their goal, with their apparently expected losses of 50 dreadnaughts. Happy!

BoB, on the other hand, killed an extremely impressive number of capital ships. So they're happy. And the BoB pets can console themselves with those said capital ship kills. They can also make themselves believe there wasn't a titan cooking in there. Thus, happy.

So everyone should be happy. But they're not. WHY NOT? CAN WE NOT ACCEPT THE HAPPINESS OF BOTH SIDES?

Sheesh, these forums make me sick. I'm out.

Kriz Lupin
Gallente
Silver Snake Enterprise
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2007.03.30 02:14:00 - [851]
 

BoB lost a titan. CCP will replace it.

IM tired of this crap


Farham
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2007.03.30 02:15:00 - [852]
 



The real question to ask is what will stop 100+ capitals from cleansing a system, any system, when the attack ISN'T expected.


CyberChick
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.03.30 02:18:00 - [853]
 

Wouldn't this all just be simpler if CCP put up a news item about "baby titan killed in system blah blah" or "x number of capitals ships destroyed in battle to kill an empty capital yard..." After all they would have the logs of the destruction and what was cooking inside...

Enthes goldhart
Gallente
Mindstar Technology
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2007.03.30 02:18:00 - [854]
 

Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Sweet. I can't wait for my titan. I only need 700 t1 frigates to defend the capital shipyards. This should be fun. Very Happy

did I mention I was recruiting?




atually u only need 400 and then noone else can enter the system Mad

jamesw
Gallente
Omniscient Order
Cruel Intentions
Posted - 2007.03.30 02:20:00 - [855]
 

Originally by: Farham


The real question to ask is what will stop 100+ capitals from cleansing a system, any system, when the attack ISN'T expected.




The fact that you have to attack twice to cleanse it. The first attack may not be expected but everyone gets a time and date for the second one.

scabbsssjr
Gallente
Galactic Shipyards Inc
Huzzah Federation
Posted - 2007.03.30 02:26:00 - [856]
 

Originally by: CyberChick
Wouldn't this all just be simpler if CCP put up a news item about "baby titan killed in system blah blah" or "x number of capitals ships destroyed in battle to kill an empty capital yard..." After all they would have the logs of the destruction and what was cooking inside...


Actually ccp wouldn't do that because BOB may not have had a titan in their and CCP would foil a possible (keyword right their) tinfoil theory by BOB to out drama bomb BE. If BOB did have a titan in their, its their job to tell people.

CCP will probally mention it in the news in a few weeks when everything is calmed down and panned out.

Berneh
Gallente
LEGI0N
Everto Rex Regis
Posted - 2007.03.30 02:26:00 - [857]
 

so who won in the end ?


Rule2k
Caldari
Annihilative Intention.
Red Republic
Posted - 2007.03.30 02:29:00 - [858]
 

me

scabbsssjr
Gallente
Galactic Shipyards Inc
Huzzah Federation
Posted - 2007.03.30 02:32:00 - [859]
 

Originally by: Berneh
so who won in the end ?




Can't tell. Two outcomes remain:

1. The collation did kill a baby titan and lose 50+ caps. This outcome allows both partys to be happy with the results.

2. Their was no titan in their and BOB just spanked the coalition.

Esurnir
Amarr
Bears Inc
FREGE Alliance
Posted - 2007.03.30 02:32:00 - [860]
 

Originally by: Berneh
so who won in the end ?


The one with the "I won" button of course !

Gazelam
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
Posted - 2007.03.30 02:38:00 - [861]
 

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Mynas Atoch
Caldari
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.03.30 02:42:00 - [862]
 

Originally by: Riley Craven
Given the quality of their probers and the skill of the fleet, I'd find it hard to believe there were more than 100 of their cap ships actaully in system.
I had to switch up to Spook probes as it was taking so long to launch, select, analyze and see the results that even Fathoms were expiring before the results came up. I lost count of the number of BS I scanned down that despawned before I or my tacklers could lock and scramble them.

A significant number of the attacking capital fleet had technical problems and were unable to succesfully jump in. The success of BOB and allies in killing the cyno ships and cyno carriers certainly contributed to that.

Myn

Koronos
Minmatar
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2007.03.30 02:42:00 - [863]
 

Originally by: Zrevak Ashek

I beleive THIS to be CCP's vision for how fleetbattles should look, but tbfh, there will be some time b4 the technology catches up to thatSad


Lol, kept wanting to scream "Focus fire!" :)

Koronos

Asariasha
Caldari
DEFCON.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2007.03.30 02:42:00 - [864]
 

I think the most interesting part of todays battle was
the somehow extremly fast blocking of the POS system not
even concerning the numbers of combatants. So what happened
was that CCP lets coalition cap fleet jump in without support
and just closes the system while the major support fleet
is barred from the fight. So we had 700 in system. ~200-300 coalition
giving a rest of 400-500 BoB+allied while the insane
amount of estimated 500-700 other coalition fighters
are just not allowed to enter.

Tinfoil hat? Maybe, but the fairest decision of a GM
would have been to contact the FCs, ask for the numbers
each fleet has. Then just let 600 players move into that
system while concerning the apportionment of both fleets
in percentage.
This would have been a fair decision instead of just
excluding more than 60%! of the coalition forces.

With regards
Asa

Euthanasia XXX
Amarr
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.03.30 02:46:00 - [865]
 

Originally by: Ferocious FeAr
Originally by: Troubadour
If it was BoB and friends losing 57ish capitals and killing a POS with a capital assembly array, everyone would be saying, "OMG BOD IS DED NOW!" Instead of debating whether or not there actually was a titan in production in the array. Even if there was a Titan, would it change the fact the coalition lost 57 odd capitals in doing so? Maybe it would make them feel a bit better about it, which is what this thread has turned into. Coalition folks and their alts trying to make some kind of sense out of the huge beating they took today. Well I got some news for you, you lost, big time. Titan kill or not.



Bingo was his nameo.


57? There are only ~26 capital kills posted on the BoB killboard.

Valtaer
Caldari
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
Posted - 2007.03.30 02:49:00 - [866]
 

What I want to know is if anyone was cynical enough to actually keep track of their time in jump queue's and whatnot??? No one? Oh wait.... I was.

1st Traffic Control SVM-3K Gate Time: 19:35:27
Time when SVM-3K loaded: 20:15:57

Jump Queue at O-HDC 20:17:08
Time when O-HDC loaded 20:39:40

Here's the sweet one... Started loading PUIG-F at 20:40
Finished... wait for it... 21:37

My hat's off to you... the patient... the mighty... the sheep

The way I would fix this problem: Ban capital ships, ban alliances, ban POS's Cool

jamesw
Gallente
Omniscient Order
Cruel Intentions
Posted - 2007.03.30 02:52:00 - [867]
 

Originally by: Asariasha
I think the most interesting part of todays battle was
the somehow extremly fast blocking of the POS system not
even concerning the numbers of combatants. So what happened
was that CCP lets coalition cap fleet jump in without support
and just closes the system while the major support fleet
is barred from the fight. So we had 700 in system. ~200-300 coalition
giving a rest of 400-500 BoB+allied while the insane
amount of estimated 500-700 other coalition fighters
are just not allowed to enter.

Tinfoil hat? Maybe, but the fairest decision of a GM
would have been to contact the FCs, ask for the numbers
each fleet has. Then just let 600 players move into that
system while concerning the apportionment of both fleets
in percentage.
This would have been a fair decision instead of just
excluding more than 60%! of the coalition forces.

With regards
Asa


I think their only perogative doing that was to keep the node online. After seeing what happened in JV1V and with the nodecrash issues there, limiting the numbers was about the only option they had to prevent a reoccurance.

Either way, the POS was taken down, and the attackers took the heavy losses they expected to take. Would any of this have changed if the Coalition were to jump 500 more people into system?

Reto
Gallente
The Last Resort
Posted - 2007.03.30 02:52:00 - [868]
 

Originally by: Gazelam
I feel compeled to say something reading through this thread. First of all, morale does not win wars. Morale is only good for getting people to fight in the first place (like the germans thinking they could take mother russia after smoking france). The coalition may have high morale from this fight which also means high pride; meaning they might deside to attack another pos and lose ~50 more dreads. That is all morale is good for. What wins wars is logistics, accurate information, firepower, and resourses. Meaning - this war is far from over. The japanese thought pearl harbor would break the Americans. They were wrong, the americans still had a fleet and restored many of their damaged ships. For those of you who hate WWII analogies. The death star was destroyed, but it was rebuilt. Try and learn something from history or you will become it. So keep saying "this is a moral victory" cause that may be the only gain in the long run (haven't you heard of a counter attack)?. This was not the last home system of BoB that was destroyed, look what RA has done from their war with only one system left. Thinking in the short term is going to get the coalition killed if they aren't careful. The question will be, will the quanitity of the Coalition defeat the quality of BoB in the end?

Second point - why cry about lag? Do you not think that if CCP had the power they would make it so millions of people could fight in one system - that they would make the best most profitable game they can? A game were you could land on planets and moons have massive varieties of ships and fight with every imaginable machine? They are working on it, and they are aware about lag! Do you think your spam will really make them go any faster?

P.S. your ships will not be pettitionable, you knew what you were getting into. (officer I swear the beer in my hand is not my fault)


bitter ?

Asariasha
Caldari
DEFCON.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2007.03.30 02:53:00 - [869]
 

PS.: There is no real winner or looser of todays engagement.
I believe more interesting is the symbolic message
that BoB received today.

Coalition forces of approx 1000pilots. BoB space is
no longer safe and there is no real way to stop such
an extreme amount of pilots willing to crush down
BoB...except maybe in closing systems, BoD Razz

SpaceMonkey
Gallente
DAB
Dead Terrorists
Posted - 2007.03.30 02:54:00 - [870]
 

Originally by: Asariasha
I think the most interesting part of todays battle was
the somehow extremly fast blocking of the POS system not
even concerning the numbers of combatants. So what happened
was that CCP lets coalition cap fleet jump in without support
and just closes the system while the major support fleet
is barred from the fight. So we had 700 in system. ~200-300 coalition
giving a rest of 400-500 BoB+allied while the insane
amount of estimated 500-700 other coalition fighters
are just not allowed to enter.

Tinfoil hat? Maybe, but the fairest decision of a GM
would have been to contact the FCs, ask for the numbers
each fleet has. Then just let 600 players move into that
system while concerning the apportionment of both fleets
in percentage.
This would have been a fair decision instead of just
excluding more than 60%! of the coalition forces.

With regards
Asa


Regardless of what was or was not destroyed, today you sir win this thread in my opinion.This action by CCP however did not surprise me.

Good job to the coalition for doing what we stood out to accomplish.Not even letting anyone or anything stop it .The fact they are spinning it so hard should just make you smile.





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