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Havlentia Castigatrix
Gallente
The Avalon Foundation
Posted - 2007.04.22 12:51:00 - [241]
 

Seems to be a solution in search of a problem, personally speaking.

I'm not that convinced that the 'map room' idea will work with the representations of the avatars in a room; it'll make for some crowded rooms and the 'whiteboard' could be produced without the schmancy-pants avatars walking around, rendering the walking around stuff to eye-candy.


Havlentia Castigatrix
Gallente
The Avalon Foundation
Posted - 2007.04.22 12:59:00 - [242]
 

Originally by: Riley Craven
Originally by: Shalia Ripper
Originally by: Riley Craven
The whole eve community knows this and you arent doing yourself any favors but trying to parade it as an advacement of the Eve universe.




A good chunk of the EVE community disagrees with this statement.




Please note I didnt say that the Eve community hated the idea of ambulation, Just that they know that this project is a pretense for the White Wolf one.


*ding* thanks for that, the lightbulb went on there because I couldn't figure out where this idea actually came from in the first place. Of course, the WOD MMORPG.

The OP does misunderstand that the 'eve community' doesn't just consist of the vocal minority on the forums, and there's a few of us wondering why all the tapdancing about features that don't require a full body animated character. I'd settle for a map that didn't suck.


Janu Hull
Caldari
Terra Incognita
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2007.04.22 15:15:00 - [243]
 

Originally by: ghosttr
One thing I would like to see is the ability for you character to have a 'room' in station. Room rental would be an isk sink (unless at a outpost). You could decorate your room, making a new market for room decor, and possibly a use for the tags the rats drop having a sansha general tag in your room would look uber-cool. Also the room would be a place where you could hide, since your not in a ship you may be able to disappear from the station list or something like that.

Also offices could be much better, you could tell the type of corp by how the office is decorated. (A pirate corpse could have corpses everywhere, and a carebear corp could have veld everywhere).


Oh cripes...

Can you imagine my room with 161 Exotic Dancers?


Silver Night
Caldari
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Posted - 2007.04.22 20:25:00 - [244]
 

Originally by: Havlentia Castigatrix
Originally by: Riley Craven
Originally by: Shalia Ripper
Originally by: Riley Craven
The whole eve community knows this and you arent doing yourself any favors but trying to parade it as an advacement of the Eve universe.




A good chunk of the EVE community disagrees with this statement.




Please note I didnt say that the Eve community hated the idea of ambulation, Just that they know that this project is a pretense for the White Wolf one.


*ding* thanks for that, the lightbulb went on there because I couldn't figure out where this idea actually came from in the first place. Of course, the WOD MMORPG.

The OP does misunderstand that the 'eve community' doesn't just consist of the vocal minority on the forums, and there's a few of us wondering why all the tapdancing about features that don't require a full body animated character. I'd settle for a map that didn't suck.





While it may be that the WOD merger was the final straw that initiated development, I know talk of having the ability to walk around stations being an eventual feature dates to 2003 at least. I think the WOD MMO just means it makes financial sense, in terms of man hours needed. That being said, I think it would have been done eventually anyway, just likely further down the road. Now just happens to be when it makes the most sense.

And the map is excellent, what exactly are your gripes with it. It has a couple issues, but overall I find it very useful, functional, not to mention pretty.

Nikolus Wrighte
Caldari
Chaos Coalition
Posted - 2007.04.23 05:52:00 - [245]
 

Kieron. I want you inside me! NOW!

Stitcher
Caldari
Posted - 2007.04.23 09:40:00 - [246]
 

Originally by: Arialla
Edited by: Arialla on 14/03/2007 00:09:15
I am in the anti-ambulation corner mostly because it seems like a lot of eye candy with no functional use at all.


Well... yes. That's rather the point.

Beauty for the sake of beauty, eh?

It doesn't actually NEED to have a practical in-game function in order to be STUPIDLY FETHING COOL. Kinda like the Opux yacht. One could say that being pointless but stupidly fething cool eye candy IS it's function.

Janu Hull
Caldari
Terra Incognita
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2007.04.23 13:59:00 - [247]
 

Edited by: Janu Hull on 23/04/2007 13:56:44
I don't find anything really wrong with the idea of out of pod living. I mean, its no more or less annoying than, say, ruined hulks of stations sitting next to stargates, or a big frickin' white glowy thing in the EVE Gate system.

Which is to say "Its NOT annoying". Its a new layer to the whole idea of playing the game. Really, look at the proposed atmospheric flight system. Why bother? Its just new eye candy. The same stuff we can do in a space ship or a POS orbiting a moon, so why do it? Simple, its new, its flashy, it adds depth to the game. A more complete universe. As long as they've got the hardware to support it, what's the crime in making it happen?

Its no worse than say, the City of God in Amarri space, really.

SamuraiJack
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Posted - 2007.04.23 14:06:00 - [248]
 

my personal feeling is its a waste of CCP resources that could be spent fixing existing ingame problems and their wonderful... mechanics.

new shiny stuff... Distracts ppl from the problems under the hood.

Fix the bugs first please. If i want to stare at some elfs ass... i'll go play WoW.


Cornchips
Black Serpent Technologies
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2007.04.23 14:28:00 - [249]
 

I wont like it until I can walk up to the people in the station stick a blaster pistol to there forehead and release their brains from the prison of their skull. Then I will like it....YARRRR!!

Stitcher
Caldari
Posted - 2007.04.23 15:52:00 - [250]
 

Originally by: SamuraiJack
my personal feeling is its a waste of CCP resources that could be spent fixing existing ingame problems and their wonderful... mechanics.

new shiny stuff... Distracts ppl from the problems under the hood.

Fix the bugs first please. If i want to stare at some elfs ass... i'll go play WoW.




as has been said again and again:

The team working on ambulation were hired specifically for that purpose. their only role in CCP from the moment they were hired was to work on this project. as such, the work they are doing is not so much a reallocation or "waste" of resources so much as it is hiring a completely new set to do a completely new job.

besides, the kind of people working on this project - modellers, mappers and animators, I would imagine - are not well-suited to bug-hunting. the two are very different disciplines.

Mister Zero
Minmatar
Posted - 2007.04.23 20:23:00 - [251]
 

Gee, that's pretty.

Pretty pointless.

Instead of this bloat-candy why don't you spend the resources on addressing the game-crippling lag issues?

Makran
Caldari
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Warped Aggression
Posted - 2007.04.23 20:26:00 - [252]
 

Originally by: Mister Zero
Gee, that's pretty.

Pretty pointless.

Instead of this bloat-candy why don't you spend the resources on addressing the game-crippling lag issues?


Might want to take a look at the post above you.Wink

Mister Zero
Minmatar
Posted - 2007.04.23 20:32:00 - [253]
 

So I'm a broken record.

Thing is, if CCP should be hiring ANYone, it should be a Quality Assurance team.

Feral Karkassia
Minmatar
Mean Corp
Posted - 2007.04.23 20:42:00 - [254]
 

Can you make my pet slaver hound follow me around?

Laughing

Let someone try messing with you in a bar with that under the stool. Or in the war room, someone says something stupid, "Sic 'em!" I think after awhile an angry look would be the only thing needed.

Ah, death by Slaver Hound, another of Eve's lost possibilities.

/insanity

That said, slaver-hound-fighting-pits would work well in Amarrian stations, but to appease the animal rights folks you'd probably have to make it virtual. Virtual virtual hound fights. Could bet massive isk on 'em too. Little bit of blood lust/blood sport for the in-station entertainment, eh? YARRRR!!

Summer River
EVE Corporation 15691
Posted - 2007.04.23 22:20:00 - [255]
 

So which Minmitar character will want to increase the size of his codpiece first?

Dimitrios Ypsilanti
Posted - 2007.04.23 23:53:00 - [256]
 

Originally by: Mister Zero
Thing is, if CCP should be hiring ANYone, it should be a Quality Assurance team.

Why, when they have us for that?

SamuraiJack
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Posted - 2007.04.23 23:59:00 - [257]
 

Originally by: Dimitrios Ypsilanti
Originally by: Mister Zero
Thing is, if CCP should be hiring ANYone, it should be a Quality Assurance team.

Why, when they have us for that?


I'd laugh... but its true... :(

Artur Gaggleon
Gallente
Nova Inc.
The Core Collective
Posted - 2007.04.24 01:52:00 - [258]
 

If we have to have dancing at all, some slow ball room dancing would actually be pretty cool and make a lot more sense in the setting. Maybe something weird involving silver spheres. Y'know, like in Buck Rogers? Anyone?

Net hunter
Amarr
Phoenix Industries
Saints Amongst Sinners
Posted - 2007.04.24 10:39:00 - [259]
 

Holy God, I just creamed myself. Think im going to need at east 3 new graphics cards though :S

Guilliman R
Gallente
Northstar Cabal
Important Internet Spaceship League
Posted - 2007.06.25 20:28:00 - [260]
 

Anyone with half a brain nows they have multiple teams for each aspect of development, it's not 1 team doing bug fixes, code streamlining, grafics, sound.

Your comments about "fix lag 1st" are pointless!

Grentho
Caldari
No Limit Productions
Posted - 2007.06.25 20:32:00 - [261]
 

sweet

TheLibram
Amarr
Posted - 2007.07.14 03:26:00 - [262]
 

Just to echo other sentiments, I truely hope that this is a game "addition" and not a complete core-game revamp.

In other words, I want the game to stay as beautiful as it is. If you want to make avatars and additional awesome graphics "in addition to the current core game," then please do.

Otherwise, I can do without the 3D avatar/view/first-person navigation within space stations.

Rangkai
Posted - 2007.07.14 03:33:00 - [263]
 

Originally by: TheLibram
Just to echo other sentiments, I truely hope that this is a game "addition" and not a complete core-game revamp.

In other words, I want the game to stay as beautiful as it is. If you want to make avatars and additional awesome graphics "in addition to the current core game," then please do.

Otherwise, I can do without the 3D avatar/view/first-person navigation within space stations.


I say do away with all graphics..
Eve would be so much more awesome as a text only turn based game

Astro Teller
Praetorian Black Guard
Frater Adhuc Excessum
Posted - 2007.07.14 03:46:00 - [264]
 

being able to look at ships while in avatar mode is soooo cool. I can't wait to take a look at my raven from first person view ^_^

Adaris
E X I U S
Posted - 2007.07.14 13:28:00 - [265]
 

I'm extremely anticipating not only the avatars and what they can do and look like, but also the player environments. Personally I would like the style of at least the caldari race to be similar to environments shown in the game Killzone and film Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within (particularly the holographic interfaces - instead of traditional computer interfaces.)

But with any luck you guys at art will push for that for me - nice job so far - looking forward to the finished product.

Nagi Katsumi
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2007.07.15 21:09:00 - [266]
 

Edited by: Nagi Katsumi on 15/07/2007 21:09:26
Have CCP stated how long it's going to take to get that into the game?...
because I can't bloody wait. That looks fantastic, especially the new graphics on the station.

The avatars seem a bit weird when they walk and emote though. I hope that'll be fixed when this is released.

MrJordanIOI
Minmatar
The Lantern Mining Corporation
Posted - 2007.07.15 21:39:00 - [267]
 

I havent had time to read through all the pages but in case someone has not mentioned it:

Please give us a room from which we can look _ out of the station _

This would be an immeasurable improvement and justify the walking inside thingy even for those who dont like it right now.

You could walk from dock to the viewing room and back ..

IOI

Skyfinder
Ascent of Ages
Posted - 2007.07.16 14:46:00 - [268]
 

Sadly I don't have the time to read through all the great ideas people have suggested in here but I would like to suggest one more (even if its already been put forth).

FOOD

Is it concievable that we could have our character eat in stations, and failing to eat and you need medical treatment for hunger etc. Not eating enough = less energy = less ability to consciously maneuver and pilot your ship in space (i.e. your using your brain in your pod to fly your ship).

Food would be a commodity, so no overpricing, and cheap enough everyone could survive. However, there are better more nourishing foods that give you boosts like current boosters do? And you can select hibernation mode for your character whe your away so that you don't starve to death (reborn in new clone upon login) or alternativly visit the nearby deep freeze medical facility to hibernate while your away in rl.

Zeonos
Amarr
Griffin Industries Ltd
IMPERIAL LEGI0N
Posted - 2007.07.16 15:17:00 - [269]
 

Originally by: CCP kieron
A high quality download will be available in the future, no time frame as of yet.


How is that coming along?.... i really cant wait any longer.. already having flashbacks of wow and their full bodies.. :( "yes its installed, though both accounts is still frozen.."

"Mods, now you fixed my sig, please make Zeonos default poster.. Thanks"

Streak Lightning
Posted - 2007.07.16 18:52:00 - [270]
 

backdoor bandit + avatar = intergalactic disaster...


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