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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
Posted - 2007.03.06 20:36:00 - [1]
 

So I walked past a shop and saw Star Wars Galaxies - Complete Online Adventure. Bought the game with all four expansions included and a free AT-RTExclamation I need to say WOW. It is fun. eVe is also fun but SWG is just WOW.

I could understand why new players and refugees liked eVe when they first joined. It was something new and they instantly fell in love with eVe. They would never understand why eVe "old timers" whined so much on forums about this and that.

SWG is fun and I do not see why their ex-vets hate the game.

Moved from Eve General Discussion to OOPE -Eldo

jita alt1111111222222
Posted - 2007.03.06 20:38:00 - [2]
 

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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
Posted - 2007.03.06 20:38:00 - [3]
 

eVe

Ithildin
Gallente
The Corporation
Cruel Intentions
Posted - 2007.03.06 20:40:00 - [4]
 

Something about ruining game balance, making the character progression to a competitive character extremely one-sided, and if I'm not mistaken also cutting support and development for it.

All in all, those little things that you don't see or understand as a new player, but are all that counts if you plan on going serious with the game.

Cloora
APEX Unlimited
APEX Conglomerate
Posted - 2007.03.06 20:50:00 - [5]
 

Jedi is now a starting class = nuff said

Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
Posted - 2007.03.06 20:52:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Cloora
Jedi is now a starting class = nuff said


Were you one of those players who grinded day and night for Jedis?

Nero Scuro
Jejaikaro Corporation
Posted - 2007.03.06 21:03:00 - [7]
 

Y'know I thought someone had bought Jenny's character.

But now it's obvious. He's just taking the ****. One big wind-up. And he's making it more obvious because he's annoyed no-one has noticed yet.

The only alternative is that he genuinely likes SWG. Which is (as everyone well knows) physically impossible - because nobody, ever, anywhere, could possibly like that mess.

Cloora
APEX Unlimited
APEX Conglomerate
Posted - 2007.03.06 21:08:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Cloora
Jedi is now a starting class = nuff said


Were you one of those players who grinded day and night for Jedis?


No I have never played the game. But I have had the game explained to me by countless individuals who left the game and went to MxO to use up their station pass for SOE. And i played MxO.

Then I came to this game and found even more old SWG players who gave me all their input on why they left.

It sounds like countless reasons to leave, but the lamest thing that I heard is how they made Jedi a starting class and how they can be soloed by bounty hunters now.

Totally against Star Wars backstory and lore.

I think the way they implemented Jedi at first sounded brilliant. Three deaths and that character was GONE forever. Perma-death.

Now it sounds uber-lame

Lavinrac Krad
Caldari
Posted - 2007.03.06 21:10:00 - [9]
 

Someone is being sarcastic "SWG is just WOW."

Serapis Aote
Minmatar
TBC
VENOM Alliance
Posted - 2007.03.06 21:27:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Serapis Aote on 06/03/2007 21:26:34
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
SWG is just WOW.


I hope this is a joke, but i think it may not be.

SWG...new version. I dont know how someone can stand it for more then a day or two.

For vets of Pre CU SWG; most cant stand it more then a few hours.

Why? Its a different game.
Imagine if 1 day you woke up, you load eve, you have no skills; Your characters line of work (say crafter) was made obsolete. Meaning they elimated the usefulness of building anything by making drops so much better then the crafted stuff (and there is no looting or destruction of those dropped items).
SWG crafting system is bar none one of the best that any MMORPG has come up with (actually grinding to train up to be a crafter was crap, but most just macroed it anyway) but once you maxed your char, the actual building and crafting system was top notch...the delivery of goods to customers through stupid vedor squatter cites was crap though, and a blight.

So...to some it up.
The twitch combat gets old after about the thousand mouse click.

CH's ruled and were one of the best classes ever in a MMORPG...they are the reason for the term "nerfed" as well. They eliminate a class that led to the coining of an iconic bit of MMORPG history (sad).

Pre-CU SWG had problems (the buff line anyone)...but it was fun and the pvp wasnt half bad most of the time, especially right before the jedi population exploded.

Oh did i mention the combat sucks, jedi suck, leveling sucks, SWG sucks...

Pre CU SWG, was unique and surprising fun and engaging, much like eve is now.
SOE SUCKS

Cheesy Whine
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
Posted - 2007.03.06 21:34:00 - [11]
 

i was playing it some time ago. The most dissapointing thing was that they have changed the game from skill based (like ultima) to level based (wow, eq2 etc ..).

Mesacc
Gallente
Posted - 2007.03.06 21:36:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
SWG is fun and I do not see why their ex-vets hate the game.


Imagine for a minute that over night, CCP completely changed how EVE works. All of a sudden, the game is dumbed down to rock paper scissors dificulty level, Tech 2 ships can be obtained by running a very easy quest that can be done in an hour. Rather than a thriving player driven economy, everything becomes loot based. All the crafters and ship builders get totally screwed cause every thing they make is now useless or nowhere near as good as loot. Also, if you want to be able to compete in PVP and stand a chance, you would have to buy the latest expansion for 29.99 so you can have the unballanced expansion ships. And to top it off, they planed this for 6 months and never said a word untill 1 week before they droped it on us.

Thats basicly why ex vets hate SWG/SOE now.

Bochaba
Posted - 2007.03.06 21:53:00 - [13]
 

Played SWG for about 6 months after it came out, loved it. Loved it alot, but I had to stop playing becuase of RL. Went back after a long time away dispite reading horrible things about all the changes felt I needed to give it a shot. Man does that game stink compared to how it once was, at one point it was difficult and felt like star wars. Those where that days.

Major Stormer
Caldari
MEK Enterprises
Posted - 2007.03.06 22:00:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Nero Scuro
Y'know I thought someone had bought Jenny's character.

But now it's obvious. He's just taking the ****. One big wind-up. And he's making it more obvious because he's annoyed no-one has noticed yet.




Laughing

Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente
Shadow Templars
Posted - 2007.03.06 22:08:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
So I walked past a shop and saw Star Wars Galaxies - Complete Online Adventure. Bought the game with all four expansions included and a free AT-RTExclamation I need to say WOW. It is fun. eVe is also fun but SWG is just WOW.

I could understand why new players and refugees liked eVe when they first joined. It was something new and they instantly fell in love with eVe. They would never understand why eVe "old timers" whined so much on forums about this and that.

SWG is fun and I do not see why their ex-vets hate the game.


Jenny, I have always had high toughts about you. being cool and forum warrior and all. But please forgive me for telling you this... But you seem to have lost your mind completely! I mean...absolutely - totally - completely....lost it. Yes. your mind is so gone that I would need a spaceship thats able to do do trillions of lightjumps in one jump while diving into a black hole just to find the trace of that mind... and still!! You will not find it!!!

Star wars galaxy WAS a good game! It lasted for me like 2,5 years. Since beta almost! Now, I just regret that I did not join EVE, which btw started aprox. at the same time! But SWG being a little more mainframe, and EVE being more undergrund, I unfornately chose to join the wrong game! Do you know how much SP and ISK I could have earned on 2.5 years???? I would have had better chances obtaining the money machines called T2 BPOs. and I would be a real veteran in the best game I have ever seen!

Jenny. Leave SWG to its own doom. Return to the light! Return to EVE!

Yes. SWG sucks.


Sodium Phosphate
Gallente
Killer Koalas
Kingdom of Butan
Posted - 2007.03.06 22:21:00 - [16]
 

I miss the swg glory days, joined only about 3 days after release. I do not regret the time I've spent in that game for they were perhaps the funnest times of any mmo (besides pvp in eve). Jedi should never have been introduced, It's the equivalent of everyone now being able to play jovian.

Trev Kachanov
STK Scientific
IT Alliance
Posted - 2007.03.06 22:27:00 - [17]
 

I played a month after release up to when the NGE dropped, everything i owned ingame was destroyed. Plus conn'd into buying a new expansion knowing full well i wouldnt of bought it had they announced the NGE before the sold the expansion.

Roche Pso
Gallente
Deltole Research Labs
Posted - 2007.03.06 22:28:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Serapis Aote

CH's ruled and were one of the best classes ever in a MMORPG...they are the reason for the term "nerfed" as well. They eliminate a class that led to the coining of an iconic bit of MMORPG history (sad).

I was a CH/Rifleman, great combination for hunting, had my cats and banthas trained up to tank, a droid to harvest and then i could headshot to my heart's content. Then I got 1 week's warning that CH was being dropped from the game. I had already tried the trial of EVE so the decision to leave was easy.

diabolic clone
Amarr
Anomaly Collective
Posted - 2007.03.06 22:28:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: diabolic clone on 26/05/2007 17:51:03
This conversation is not real. The internet is an imagination in my head.

Roche Pso
Gallente
Deltole Research Labs
Posted - 2007.03.06 22:30:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Trev Kachanov
I played a month after release up to when the NGE dropped, everything i owned ingame was destroyed. Plus conn'd into buying a new expansion knowing full well i wouldnt of bought it had they announced the NGE before the sold the expansion.

Yep, the expansion had specific CH content, that is content for a profession they dropped from the game almost immediately after the expansion came out! They wanted to sucker that $30 out of people, but they didnt get mine and I will never sub to one of their games again

Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
Posted - 2007.03.06 22:38:00 - [21]
 

I dunno. I see SWG is alive and healthy. Maybe SWG Devs did improve their game because they made it more fun. New players experience were totally awesome and better. No more grinding Jedis while watching paint drying up. IMHO, ex-vets hating their SWG because they got jilted and hated the game because it became better.

Phaige
Minmatar
Knights of Nuada
Posted - 2007.03.06 22:53:00 - [22]
 

When I read the OP I was afraid that we were going to be speaking well of SOE and SWG... but I'm glad that the EVE community has not let me down!

I started SWG 2 days after release and ran multiple combinations of profs. Favorite was the Sniper/CH/Medic mix.. man that was fun. Then they went and labotomised (sp?) the profs. and forced me to lay to rest Tiny, The Mighty Imperial BE Rancor of Doom... sad, sad day Crying or Very sad.

That and the introduction of Jebay.. I mean Jedi so that they were like ants at a picnic.. then the instancing that started with Rage of the Carpets... it was like all goodness that was SWG drifted to close to a black hole Crying or Very sad

Nex Angelus
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2007.03.06 23:01:00 - [23]
 

Going out on a limb here, but are you ****ed off about your forum ban?? Rolling Eyes

About SWG, you'll get over it soon, trust me Wink

Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
Posted - 2007.03.06 23:05:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Nex Angelus
Going out on a limb here, but are you ****ed off about your forum ban?? Rolling Eyes

About SWG, you'll get over it soon, trust me Wink


Huh?

I am talking about eVe and the community of vets vs new players.

Dark Shikari
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.03.06 23:09:00 - [25]
 

SWG is one of the worst MMORPGs ever, in its current state.

Jenny's character has been bought.

Nex Angelus
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2007.03.06 23:11:00 - [26]
 

Ok... Haven't seen you here for about a 2 weeks or so, Just guessed you got slapped with a ban for some reason or another (no haven't been to scrapheap 4 awhile so dunno really)

As for the topic, I see alot of SWG vs EVE so... well, just made an assumption, which is the mother of all **** ups (I know)

Anyway... Good to see you again Jenny, It's been awhile, whatever the reason Wink

Nex Angelus
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2007.03.06 23:13:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Dark Shikari

Jenny's character has been bought.


Uhm... That would be a sad day in that case... Do we know who "Jenny" is these days then?

Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
Posted - 2007.03.06 23:14:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Dark Shikari
SWG is one of the worst MMORPGs ever, in its current state.

Jenny's character has been bought.


I looked at the 23 and I thought it was a movie. But the 23 is actually a group of elites who know everything. I guess I will never be in the 23. :-(

Mesacc
Gallente
Posted - 2007.03.06 23:17:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
I dunno. I see SWG is alive and healthy. Maybe SWG Devs did improve their game because they made it more fun. New players experience were totally awesome and better. No more grinding Jedis while watching paint drying up. IMHO, ex-vets hating their SWG because they got jilted and hated the game because it became better.


Well you should fit right in over there! You seem to fit the "Target Audience" profile. No offence ment, Its just that from what you have said, your exactly the type they changed the game for. Have fun with that. All the vets who wanted a deep complex challenging game are pritty much gone!

Mutant Caldari
Caldari
Percussive Diplomacy
The Phoenix. Consortium
Posted - 2007.03.06 23:24:00 - [30]
 

SWG is NOTHING like it used to be.It was alot better back when you actually had to work for being a Jedi.Plus they took out the CH profession Sad


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