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Alvara
Kuiper Belt Industries
Empire Research
Posted - 2007.03.25 00:38:00 - [31]
 

Howdy from Aggiecon.

Ricdic
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2007.03.25 04:31:00 - [32]
 

Do you guys need more research operations?

I run two large towers with a total of 30 mobile laboratories (last I counted), all set up for alliance research, and would be interested in getting in contact with you to expand the alliance reach in space.

My towers are located in Bawilan (a 0.5 system) near Jel, and only a few jumps out of Dodixie.

I figure why compete when we can build a nice big alliance network for the eve population. I will not be in-game for another 10 hours or so, but if someone wants to catch up with me on MSN, my nick is ricdic@iinet.net.au .

I am available right now, and would love a chat there for the moment.

Best of luck guys, regardless of our outcome.

Alvara
Kuiper Belt Industries
Empire Research
Posted - 2007.03.25 22:16:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Ricdic
Do you guys need more research operations?

I run two large towers with a total of 30 mobile laboratories (last I counted), all set up for alliance research, and would be interested in getting in contact with you to expand the alliance reach in space.

My towers are located in Bawilan (a 0.5 system) near Jel, and only a few jumps out of Dodixie.

I figure why compete when we can build a nice big alliance network for the eve population. I will not be in-game for another 10 hours or so, but if someone wants to catch up with me on MSN, my nick is ricdic@iinet.net.au .

I am available right now, and would love a chat there for the moment.

Best of luck guys, regardless of our outcome.


I apologize for not seeing your reply sooner, been busy with Aggiecon. I'll get in contact with you soon to discuss the possibilities.

Mihyang
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.03.26 08:37:00 - [34]
 

Edited by: Mihyang on 26/03/2007 08:40:38
Application to join alliance sent.

Planning on using that Mesybier POS of yours. Very Happy

Alvara
Kuiper Belt Industries
Empire Research
Posted - 2007.03.26 17:23:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Mihyang
Edited by: Mihyang on 26/03/2007 08:40:38
Application to join alliance sent.

Planning on using that Mesybier POS of yours. Very Happy


It was accepted. In 22 hrs or so you can start using lab slots

Edsel
Posted - 2007.03.26 18:17:00 - [36]
 

I'd be interested in adding a tower too if this takes off.

Alvara
Kuiper Belt Industries
Empire Research
Posted - 2007.03.27 19:43:00 - [37]
 

Numerous corps have joined us over the weekend, and a number of independent POS operators are inquiring about joining.

Jesters Knight
Posted - 2007.03.28 09:55:00 - [38]
 

We currently only have one lab left empty in lonetrek so Iím purchasing another tomorrow to deploy when the one there starts filling up.


I have been away running part of aggiecon and am back now so I should be easier to catch online.

Feel free to drop me an evemail or chat in M.A.S.H.

tropalis
Posted - 2007.03.28 13:06:00 - [39]
 

Alvara, is their a copy time advantage in a POS compared to a NPC station?

Alvara
Kuiper Belt Industries
Empire Research
Posted - 2007.03.28 13:16:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: tropalis
Alvara, is their a copy time advantage in a POS compared to a NPC station?


All POS labs take 25% less time then an npc station. ( If npc takes 1 hr, POS takes 45 min )

Jesters Knight
Posted - 2007.03.29 10:59:00 - [41]
 

Due to getting a new client we have just added a new lab that is already being used and will be adding one or two (buying two, but debating the number to online) tomorrow.

A majority of our labs are starting to look like empire slots so you should hurry and get yours fast.

Jesters Knight

smokey steele
ACE Trucking Co.
Posted - 2007.03.29 11:25:00 - [42]
 

I'm very interested in joining, will contact tomorrow to sort out the details and that.

Ulrich Sternaxe
Posted - 2007.03.29 11:57:00 - [43]
 

So all these charges work ingame? No seperate deals? You just join with a corp, and whenever you use the POS, the charges are automatically paid to the POS owner? Without having to make private ISK transfers?

Is this a new feauture that came with the patch or has it always been around? If it's been around for a while why is it suddenly so popular? Why didn't it work before, because nobody wanted to start an alliance for this purpose?

Cause I guess this solves the whole research problem, no more need for collateral, which was the problem for any research corp to make a good business out of it I guess...

Alvara
Kuiper Belt Industries
Empire Research
Posted - 2007.03.29 15:20:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Ulrich Sternaxe
So all these charges work ingame? No seperate deals? You just join with a corp, and whenever you use the POS, the charges are automatically paid to the POS owner? Without having to make private ISK transfers?

Is this a new feauture that came with the patch or has it always been around? If it's been around for a while why is it suddenly so popular? Why didn't it work before, because nobody wanted to start an alliance for this purpose?

Cause I guess this solves the whole research problem, no more need for collateral, which was the problem for any research corp to make a good business out of it I guess...


It's been around for a while. I am told there is one or two others who have this type of setup. Though I have never heard of them myself. I do have a perverse pride in my 2+ mil skill points in corporation management, but boy was it a grind.

All the UI is there for setting up a POS to be public so anyone can research at it. Without going through any rigamarole. So blame CCP :p

Jesters Knight
Posted - 2007.03.29 17:35:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Ulrich Sternaxe
So all these charges work ingame? No seperate deals? You just join with a corp, and whenever you use the POS, the charges are automatically paid to the POS owner? Without having to make private ISK transfers?

Is this a new feauture that came with the patch or has it always been around? If it's been around for a while why is it suddenly so popular? Why didn't it work before, because nobody wanted to start an alliance for this purpose?

Cause I guess this solves the whole research problem, no more need for collateral, which was the problem for any research corp to make a good business out of it I guess...


It has been around for a while, but not necessarily used.

I have spoken with a few people who said that they tried the same thing but it never took off. I think that the reason for that is poor marketing (as I and other alliance members have never heard of it) and the fact that the startup generally takes about a month or two, as you generally wait for the clients BPOís to come out of research wherever they are at and then they are moved over to where you are at.

There were some bugs with POS's preventing this for a while, however they were stealth fixed while I was in 0.0 so I donít know when that happened.

But yes, there are no separate fees, or transfers to worry about.

The corporate wallet has always been billed for research done, regardless of who you are having do the research when you install it (works the same for NPC slots). So if you install a job the corporation running the slot gets the fees transferred from your corp wallet into thereís.

Alvara
Kuiper Belt Industries
Empire Research
Posted - 2007.03.30 18:22:00 - [46]
 

*stretch*

We do consider corps with mains, so for those that don't want to make a research alt or can't for some reason. Come talk to Jesters or myself.

Alvara
Kuiper Belt Industries
Empire Research
Posted - 2007.03.31 19:19:00 - [47]
 

A few new clients, a new POS or two offered to join.
We should have a POS up in Minmatar space soon.

Alvara
Kuiper Belt Industries
Empire Research
Posted - 2007.04.01 18:17:00 - [48]
 

good morning

Alvara
Kuiper Belt Industries
Empire Research
Posted - 2007.04.02 23:16:00 - [49]
 

bump.

Sorry sometimes I just have to bump instead of an update.
boring weekend.

Nicole Maher
Posted - 2007.04.03 06:33:00 - [50]
 

Any ETA on the Minmatar space tower? Pretty interested in utilising 4 or more ME slots once that service is available.

Beriel
Cosmic Odyssey
Cosmic Anomalies
Posted - 2007.04.03 08:52:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Alvara
bump.

Sorry sometimes I just have to bump instead of an update.
boring weekend.


I might be interessed in joining alliance if accepted.
Atm got 12 labs running in Isaziwa and planning on deploying more if need arises.

Alvara
Kuiper Belt Industries
Empire Research
Posted - 2007.04.03 15:09:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Nicole Maher
Any ETA on the Minmatar space tower? Pretty interested in utilising 4 or more ME slots once that service is available.


Around 2 weeks or so. Any preference on region/location?

DeODokktor
Caldari
Dark Templars
The Fonz Presidium
Posted - 2007.04.03 15:41:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Ulrich Sternaxe
So all these charges work ingame? No seperate deals? You just join with a corp, and whenever you use the POS, the charges are automatically paid to the POS owner? Without having to make private ISK transfers?

Is this a new feauture that came with the patch or has it always been around? If it's been around for a while why is it suddenly so popular? Why didn't it work before, because nobody wanted to start an alliance for this purpose?

Cause I guess this solves the whole research problem, no more need for collateral, which was the problem for any research corp to make a good business out of it I guess...


It's been around since labs started, the mad rush for not seeing it was probably the fact that you have options to make slots available to the public and we were hoping that the public would get the slots. There is a 2nt and probably more important factor as to why people dont continue looking at this option, and that's because tech2 research (time or material), copying, and now invention, are only doable by the corp who owns the pos (copying is possible, but it can take a week or so for a GM to actually get you the copys out). The method works good, I supply 2 other corps with slots and they never have any trouble using them, it's one reason why we set up our alliance ;).

Jarne
Caldari
Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations
Posted - 2007.04.03 16:10:00 - [54]
 

Edited by: Jarne on 03/04/2007 16:06:58
Bookmarked... Might be interested when I got an alt in a corp. Any Info on the copy slot usage and wait queues in Essence?

Arushia
Nova Labs
New Eden Research.
Posted - 2007.04.03 16:44:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Jarne
Edited by: Jarne on 03/04/2007 16:06:58
Bookmarked... Might be interested when I got an alt in a corp. Any Info on the copy slot usage and wait queues in Essence?

4-5 ME slots and plenty of PE slots free. All (6) copy slots open as of last night, but be warned you will need to file a petition to deliver the copies to you (stupid bug.)

Alvara
Kuiper Belt Industries
Empire Research
Posted - 2007.04.03 18:31:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Arushia
Originally by: Jarne
Edited by: Jarne on 03/04/2007 16:06:58
Bookmarked... Might be interested when I got an alt in a corp. Any Info on the copy slot usage and wait queues in Essence?

4-5 ME slots and plenty of PE slots free. All (6) copy slots open as of last night, but be warned you will need to file a petition to deliver the copies to you (stupid bug.)


Arushia runs our Gallente POS.

The Aphend POS has about the same number of ME slots available. I personally heavily use Aphend's copy slots.
The Caldari POS should have 3-6 ME slots open. Jesters onlines new lab modules as we get more business there.

Jesters Knight
Posted - 2007.04.03 19:01:00 - [57]
 

Piak currently has 3 ME slots available with no wait time and 5 copy slots available.

Alvara
Kuiper Belt Industries
Empire Research
Posted - 2007.04.04 22:17:00 - [58]
 

So what does a researching corp gain by joining?

* Access to research POS's in Amarr, Caldari and Gallente space. With one coming in Minmatar space soon.
* As a researching corp there is no up front cost to join. The only costs are per hour of research.
* Virtually no wait to research a BPO.
* The BPO's stay in your hands, no third party involved, so no risk of being scammed.
* Research is faster at a POS then a NPC station.

Alewin
Venus Research Initiative
Empire Research
Posted - 2007.04.05 18:02:00 - [59]
 

Who should I convo tonight about possibly joining the alliance with VnRI to supply research POS access in minmatar space near Rens? I've only got 4 labs flying right now, but should be able to add additional labs fairly quickly. This sounds like a much easier way to handle running the labs, not to mention better from the trust standpoint.

Alvara
Kuiper Belt Industries
Empire Research
Posted - 2007.04.05 18:31:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Alewin
Who should I convo tonight about possibly joining the alliance with VnRI to supply research POS access in minmatar space near Rens? I've only got 4 labs flying right now, but should be able to add additional labs fairly quickly. This sounds like a much easier way to handle running the labs, not to mention better from the trust standpoint.


Join channel M.A.S.H. and look for Jesters or me; also dj knows a lot about the alliance. I should be on early and late evening.


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