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Rells
Caldari
Fusillade.
Posted - 2007.03.05 07:19:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Rells on 05/03/2007 16:11:16

CCP is one of the best game balancers out there. Before revelations there were some minor problems with EWAR being way too overpowered and that was sorted. ECM has been nerfed to oblivion so that even specialized EWAR ships like the Falcon are now no longer overpowered. Now that the Falcon can not jam anything without 200 million isk in rigs, it is much easier to fight. Yes, they made the falcon, Blackbird and Griffin quasi useless but hey, small price to pay right?

The really interesting thing about the nerf to ECM is that it took the Dominix down a notch. It used to be a lean, mean NOS, jamming machine with tons of drones. It cant jam anymore and that is great. The Dominix now is almost back to what it should be.

The corrections to the Amarr ships were brilliant. In one swoop they returned the massively gimped and underused Amarr technology. The changes to the Laser weapons and the Amarr ship bonuses in Revelations were brilliant. They are now a viable race to fly.

The capabilities of their programming and UI development is beyond reproach. In Revelations they fixed all of the three year long standing bugs in the corp interface and made it so that corporations actually can secure their corp assets without basically distrusting everyone in the corp. They clearly want to give CEOs tools to prevent corp theft and center game drama on socio-political events in the game instead of silly drama as a result of loopholes in a flawed interface. CEOs all over are rejoicing at how easy it is to implement blueprint lock down and unlocks. What is more, the ability to have more hangars and quotas on the hangars for a corp has made the corps much easier to manage. This is not to mention the awesome changes implementing fine grained permissions on POS access.

However, what was so great about CCP balancing is that they didnt mess up balance in the process. A lesser company than CCP would have accidentally created a super weapon that could out fly all missiles and drones, move too fast to be tracked by guns, have the tank of a battleship, use torpedoes effectively and have heavy nos to render any interceptor useless. Fortunately CCP would never make such a daft mistake in the balance of the game and if they did make such a mistake they would immediately correct it rather than sending out some fluff about wanting to protect the people who have invested in an overpowered setup. CCP would never do this.

I take my hat off to CCP for their wonderful changes that have made the game so much more playable. Good job guys, keep it up.

Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
Posted - 2007.03.05 07:21:00 - [2]
 

Hey! Gimme copy of that alternative dimensions EVE-Online to us too! It's not nice to hog everything yourself! Sharing is Caring!ugh

Nex Angelus
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2007.03.05 07:23:00 - [3]
 

Haha... Good one Laughing

Thank you, I really needed that... Was in a lousy 'monday morning' mood but now it's all better Wink

Thews Mortaza
Minmatar
Xila Inferno Production
Posted - 2007.03.05 07:27:00 - [4]
 

Oh my god, they've killed Rells and replaced him with a tuna-bake casserole !!!

Oh, wait. Wink

(Somewhere, a forum moderators "dissent" sense is tingling!)

Crydawner
Posted - 2007.03.05 07:27:00 - [5]
 

guild wars>>>>>>>Eve online when it comes to balancing and updates.

and this?
"In Revelations they fixed all of the three year long standing bugs in the corp interface and made it so that corporations actually can secure their corp assets without basically distrusting everyone in the corp"


whoa, it took THREE YEARS? yeah, fantastic.Neutral


Rells
Caldari
Fusillade.
Posted - 2007.03.05 07:33:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Rells on 05/03/2007 16:14:35

Originally by: Crydawner
guild wars>>>>>>>Eve online


/sarcasm off

Whatever you are smoking, it is probably illegal. With all of Eve's problems it is still far better than anything else out there.

/sarcasm on

Crydawner
Posted - 2007.03.05 07:39:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Rells
Originally by: Crydawner
guild wars>>>>>>>Eve online


Whatever you are smoking, it is probably illegal. With all of Eve's problems it is still far better than anything else out there.


I don't smoke anything, i like to stay healthy for the body is all of the soul we may perceive, and mentally cogent to boot :D

But guild wars has SO many skills (1000's) so many, many combinations and still maintains a stunning, exciting balance between them all, it's the king of internet PvP games. (i am a gws fanboi, can you tell?). It's one failing is that it's not set in space and has no lasers, damn! MadMadMad

Rells
Caldari
Fusillade.
Posted - 2007.03.05 07:41:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Crydawner
i am a gws fanboi, can you tell?


Yes, I can tell.

But this is an Eve Online Board. Please keep discussion on topic.

R3dSh1ft
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.03.05 07:42:00 - [9]
 

Now all that comes to fight us is "term for bundle of firewood" nano ship gangs like lv sent last night, 6 nanophoons making a mockery of the whole game. bunch of "male chickens"

Crydawner
Posted - 2007.03.05 07:51:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Rells
Originally by: Crydawner
i am a gws fanboi, can you tell?


Yes, I can tell.

But this is an Eve Online Board. Please keep discussion on topic.



"CCP is one of the best game balancers out there."

I just had to disagree :P

Gilbert Drillerson
Varorra
Knights of the Rising Phoenix
Posted - 2007.03.05 11:45:00 - [11]
 

Brilliant post... I am however worried that the brilliantly perceptive minds of CCP that do balancing, will miss the true meaning of you post and use your post when it comes to the next pay negotiation :)

Just so its clear, whoever in CCP that had ANYTHING to do with the "brilliant" measures mentioned by the OP should have a pay reduction, I think 75% would be fitting that would approximately match the remaining usefullness of my Falcon, amarr ships and the 9 mill sp i invested in leadership skills.

/Gil

Di Jiensai
Gallente
Domination.
THE KLINGONS
Posted - 2007.03.05 11:53:00 - [12]
 

Cool

/signed

CCP 4tw

P.S. i hate nos.

Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
Posted - 2007.03.05 11:59:00 - [13]
 

Any change to remove wardec limit on CORPORATIONS. Alliances has unlimited which is cool but as a small grief and merc corp, I struggle to have wars because 3 is simply too little. Unlimited please?

Estel Arador
Posted - 2007.03.05 12:19:00 - [14]
 

There should be a forum feature which limits everyone to 1 whine thread per account...

UberDefDef
Perkone
Posted - 2007.03.05 12:21:00 - [15]
 

You should all be extremely thankful at how well these guys handle this kind of stuff and how active they are. If anyone has ever had the horrible death sentence of playing navyfield... See how their community and devs work. I had the horrid sentencing of playing that game for 2 years, and I'm finally rid of it for a better game both community wise and most defiantly dev wise. They get their work done and with a smile

Grytok
KL0NKRIEGER
Posted - 2007.03.05 12:30:00 - [16]
 

Nice one, could not have it written better myself Wink

And greetings to all the &%$?*%#+%, who didn't get you Laughing

Raven Hyperbollic
Enslave.
0ccupational Hazzard
Posted - 2007.03.05 12:34:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Raven Hyperbollic on 05/03/2007 12:31:12
This is what they are waiting for Very Happy

... The training of Games Company Competence lvl 5 will be completed in 629 days...

MMXMMX
Caldari
Bendebeukers
Green Rhino
Posted - 2007.03.05 12:38:00 - [18]
 

A Salute to all players for their Game time and paying Skills!!

Gwyneth
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2007.03.05 12:50:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Rells
Edited by: Rells on 05/03/2007 07:35:44
I take my hat off to CCP for their wonderful changes that have made the game so much more playable. Good job guys, keep it up.


Please keep your hat on, I'm not paying for a game where you get to run around without a tinfoil hat. Besides, you are more handsome with it on.

Kay Brack
Gallente
Superior Unified Ruling Federation
Posted - 2007.03.05 12:53:00 - [20]
 

Thank god they fixed drones also..........

KenDoll
Posted - 2007.03.05 12:59:00 - [21]
 

this game balanced??................. WTF you smoking? ( i want some Laughing)

Aramendel
Amarr
Queens of the Stone Age
Black Legion.
Posted - 2007.03.05 13:27:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Aramendel on 05/03/2007 13:23:59
Day 10.

Dear Diary,

I am lost in a wilderness. It is a place that yields no quarter, and I must make every effort just to survive. The ignorant savages around me seem to neither speak nor understand my language. I am starved for understanding, for companionship. Repeatedly I reach out to them, only to be rebuffed. It is as though the natives are crazed animals, fearful of the touch of civilization.

I may take my own life.

Sincerely,
Sarcasm.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2007.03.05 13:28:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Akita T on 05/03/2007 13:24:56
Daqmn, beaten to it !
Originally by: KenDoll
this game balanced??................. WTF you smoking? ( i want some Laughing)

Young paddawan, your sarcasm senses are not tingling hard enough !

Rells
Caldari
Fusillade.
Posted - 2007.03.05 16:12:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Gwyneth
Originally by: Rells
Edited by: Rells on 05/03/2007 07:35:44
I take my hat off to CCP for their wonderful changes that have made the game so much more playable. Good job guys, keep it up.


Please keep your hat on, I'm not paying for a game where you get to run around without a tinfoil hat. Besides, you are more handsome with it on.


Tinfoil hat? Dont be rediculous. I have heard these stupid allegations that someone on the dev or GM team gave an alliance several Tech 2 BPOs but there is no way in hell CCP would ever stand for someone in the GMs giving out tech 2 ammo and a Sabre BPO to another alliance. If such a thing ever did happen, the punitive measures against that developer or GM and the alliance that was the recipient would be quick and harsh. Other game companies might react weakly, 6 months later and then lock threads to sweep the issue under the rug as quickly as possible but not CCP. They would make it public and adhere to their previously laid out assertions of what they would do if the caught anyone cheating.


PirateShampoo
Minmatar
Blueprint Haus
Posted - 2007.03.05 16:17:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: PirateShampoo on 05/03/2007 16:15:07
Originally by: R3dSh1ft
Now all that comes to fight us is "term for bundle of firewood" nano ship gangs like lv sent last night, 6 nanophoons making a mockery of the whole game. bunch of "male chickens"


People tend to get what they deserve. I'll leave it at that shall I? We had plenty of things to keep us occupied while we held territory, now you complaining because we have changed tatics and are now ganking your asses with the same tatics that your allies (maybe not you, can't say I have seen IAC in nano's) used against us for ages?

Anyway as per the op's post I agree, this game does tend to be better balanced than most games, CCP also seem to be slightly faster at balancing than the rest (still not fast enough for my tastes however, I would like to see nano's gone. But until then they are legit)

Rells
Caldari
Fusillade.
Posted - 2007.03.05 16:24:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: PirateShampoo
Edited by: PirateShampoo on 05/03/2007 16:15:07
Originally by: R3dSh1ft
Now all that comes to fight us is "term for bundle of firewood" nano ship gangs like lv sent last night, 6 nanophoons making a mockery of the whole game. bunch of "male chickens"


People tend to get what they deserve. I'll leave it at that shall I? We had plenty of things to keep us occupied while we held territory, now you complaining because we have changed tatics and are now ganking your asses with the same tatics that your allies (maybe not you, can't say I have seen IAC in nano's) used against us for ages?

Anyway as per the op's post I agree, this game does tend to be better balanced than most games, CCP also seem to be slightly faster at balancing than the rest (still not fast enough for my tastes however, I would like to see nano's gone. But until then they are legit)


I think you are looking for the corporation and alliance smacktalk forum over there. But if your powers of reading and observation are any indication of the rest of your alliance, it is hardly surprising that you are losing badly.

Rakeris
Brethren Empire
Hitchhiker's Alliance
Posted - 2007.03.05 16:54:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Rakeris on 05/03/2007 16:51:52
Originally by: Rells
Edited by: Rells on 05/03/2007 16:14:35

Originally by: Crydawner
guild wars>>>>>>>Eve online


/sarcasm off

Whatever you are smoking, it is probably illegal. With all of Eve's problems it is still far better than anything else out there.

/sarcasm on

You may not like GW, but frankly I can't see how anyone can say anything bad about NCsoft. As they do an outstanding job of getting rid of bugs asap, fixing imbalanced skills etc. Way faster than any other company I have yet to see.

I'm not saying GW is better than EvE. Just that the support is 1,000x better.

Rells
Caldari
Fusillade.
Posted - 2007.03.05 18:14:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: Rells on 05/03/2007 18:11:26

My point is that this is an Eve Online forum, not a guildwars advocacy forum. Those here want to improve Eve. If you want to advertise Guild Wars I suggest you go to a forum on MMOGs in general. I and many others have no interest in Guild Wars and your advocacy on this thread only serves to attempt to obscure legit Eve issues in the thread.

Omber Zombie
Gallente
Frontier Technologies
Posted - 2007.03.05 18:20:00 - [29]
 

Rells, will you have my babies? ♥

Illyria Ambri
SMASH Alliance
Posted - 2007.03.05 18:38:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Rakeris

You may not like GW, but frankly I can't see how anyone can say anything bad about NCsoft. As they do an outstanding job of getting rid of bugs asap, fixing imbalanced skills etc. Way faster than any other company I have yet to see.

I'm not saying GW is better than EvE. Just that the support is 1,000x better.


Well I will call TOTAL BS on this one.. NCStupid is the worst damn company I have seen. They can't balance crap.. they totally ignore their playerbase even more then CCP does. The US/World server playerbase has ZERO say in what happens.. their servers are polluted with farmers which are ignored and even supported.

NCStupid is a joke of a company and could take some lessons from CCP about dealing with players.


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