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Marneous Calgar
Caldari
Ascendancy.
Systematic-Chaos
Posted - 2007.03.04 12:30:00 - [31]
 

As has been said, if you log out you can log in an alt on the same account and it will remove your ship from space even with agro.

You cannot petition it - its already been petitioned by lots of people and CCP do not care about it so dont bother petitioning.

Also - RA and Goon do it all the time, RZR also do it - we've been camping a RZR nano gang thats been logged off in a dead end system for the last 10 hours and they just log in an alt when they get agro so they cant be probed.

Stop whining and play like everyone else does, you cant expect one Alliance to not use the tactic if everyone else uses it. Get rid of your double standards.

Tree Fiddy
Caldari
Heretic Entity
Posted - 2007.03.04 12:32:00 - [32]
 

ROFLCOPTERS!!

You are aware why its called logoff right? Have a close look at those around you before you post.

The OP is the Mad Dog 20 20 of Whine.

Seph Res
Caldari
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2007.03.04 12:35:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: ustasatomekk
Originally by: Turin Shroud
aaa complaining about logoff? oh the hypocrisy.


signed

to the main topic:
dont make me to post screens about logging.cos i was roaming before in lv space and aaa space and most logofski i saw in AAA space so stop whining and log to eve and play the game.you guys invented loging and jump to gate and log cloacked then dissiperaing in 30 sec even bubbled and scrabmled and now you are came to forums whining like girls


i never logged after being in a camp i die always with honor, i have no problem with dying its just a game, i speak for me personally i dont care what others do, our corp isnt allowed to log off if u do u will be warned then kicked after 3 warnings

Djerin
Caldari
Free-Space-Ranger
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.03.04 12:35:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Marneous Calgar
You cannot petition it

Yes you can. It's out of game mechanics. Whoever told you that bs is prolly doing it themselves...

BruceLee CRO
Caldari
THC LTD
Chain of Chaos
Posted - 2007.03.04 12:46:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Seph Res
Originally by: ustasatomekk
Originally by: Turin Shroud
aaa complaining about logoff? oh the hypocrisy.


signed

to the main topic:
dont make me to post screens about logging.cos i was roaming before in lv space and aaa space and most logofski i saw in AAA space so stop whining and log to eve and play the game.you guys invented loging and jump to gate and log cloacked then dissiperaing in 30 sec even bubbled and scrabmled and now you are came to forums whining like girls


i never logged after being in a camp i die always with honor, i have no problem with dying its just a game, i speak for me personally i dont care what others do, our corp isnt allowed to log off if u do u will be warned then kicked after 3 warnings


then if i post a screenshot of someone in your allaince will you kick it.cos you said corp.if yes i will post a aaa member loging to show you.i didnt say YOU are logging i dont know that so i can speak about that.i can only say i notice alots (maybe most from any allaince) of members from your alliance logging i sucha situtions you described so stop posting about LV member loged.i hope ccp will fix this but till then there is NO POINT posting something like you posted now. dont pretend that your allaince is made of all honourable pilots.

and btw if you are that like you said "i never logged after being in a camp i die always with honor" thats cool and i would wish for chirstmas that all players from aaa are just like you.

Zeveron
Caldari
Exiled Gathering
HELL4S
Posted - 2007.03.04 12:51:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Seph Res
after 4 times now of getting angry i now form a post about the logoff tactics of logoff voltera:

specially to mention:
kallysto: logged off twice when engaged 1 time logged off with aggro and disappeared 1 min after from scanner...no idea how this is possible..the ship he tried to safe was a thorax...so is the isk worth that shame on u?

Toshiro: logged off in engagement just 30 mins ago, got scrambled and webbed and aggressed by me and still disappeared after 1 min.

proof or stfu?
[ 2007.03.04 10:37:59 ] (notify) You have started trying to warp scramble T0SHIR0 [DE1TA]<-LV->(Raven).

nice tactics lv now it makes me clear what lousy pvpers u are..




omg, look who is talking.
-A- members should be the last to talk about that lame tactic.

aggro
Minmatar
devil's reborn
Posted - 2007.03.04 12:54:00 - [37]
 

i made a similar post last week about LV logging off.

it was over 50% of there members doing it. It must be taught them by the fc and directors.

So can someone from lv please answer why this new tactics of there is so ingrained into them now.


Omega Man
Amarr
The Geddy Foundation
Posted - 2007.03.04 12:56:00 - [38]
 

yawnski

KeepItSimple
Minmatar
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2007.03.04 12:57:00 - [39]
 

Logoffsky is lame whoever does it. I have witnessed a few LV pilots do it. From the battlefield, I would say around 75% of RaGoon does it. Very lame and very common.

Goljo
Minmatar
PPN United
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2007.03.04 13:01:00 - [40]
 

Im new member of AAA and PPN,

PPN have the policie, if you logoff in combat you will be kicked.

so if you see one of us, talk with our CEO.

My personaly view is Logging of in combat is a lame thing,. and so.. it give me a strange feeling that so many in this thread say its ok..

<this post is free of smack :) >

Skape Gote
Caldari
Shinra
Posted - 2007.03.04 13:10:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: aggro
i made a similar post last week about LV logging off.

it was over 50% of there members doing it. It must be taught them by the fc and directors.

So can someone from lv please answer why this new tactics of there is so ingrained into them now.




Aggro youre a good bloke but your talking crap. Logging is as lame as it gets and I know not a single FC in LV would advocate it. Sadly it happens in all alliances but as some guy up the thread said its called "logoff" for a reason. Have a close look at some of your alliance buddies.

TheArchJudge
Gallente
FinFleet
IT Alliance
Posted - 2007.03.04 13:15:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Seph Res
after 4 times now of getting angry i now form a post about the logoff tactics of logoff voltera:

specially to mention:
kallysto: logged off twice when engaged 1 time logged off with aggro and disappeared 1 min after from scanner...no idea how this is possible..the ship he tried to safe was a thorax...so is the isk worth that shame on u?

Toshiro: logged off in engagement just 30 mins ago, got scrambled and webbed and aggressed by me and still disappeared after 1 min.

proof or stfu?
[ 2007.03.04 10:37:59 ] (notify) You have started trying to warp scramble T0SHIR0 [DE1TA]<-LV->(Raven).

nice tactics lv now it makes me clear what lousy pvpers u are..




I know that guy, he is curently in the hall of shame in delta for his action, but kicking him out means it will be unjust (delta only kicks members that does something bad to other corp members or doesn't do something for his corp) and also its not my call.

I can say one thing thou, blaiming a whole alliance by the action's of few is even more lame than logoff. And to be done with, i am sure your whine ... comeing from a AAA member (a alliance that was famous for organised login traps), comes as a compliment to most LV.

Yesterday i too saw a TCF guy loging off to save his pod in my dictor bubble after calling me a wuss for not engageing his hurricane with my sabre, do you see me making thread's saying that i disrespect his whole alliance for his action?

Ohmite
Minmatar
Kasparov Stratagems
Posted - 2007.03.04 13:15:00 - [43]
 

Edited by: Ohmite on 04/03/2007 13:17:54
Everyone keeps saying about AAA logoff, my understanding is they are accused of logging off on mass and logging back in, some may think this is lame some may not - however this is about logging off in combat to save ship pod etc which is certainly different and is a purely selfish act to save ur ship and has no honour.

Since LV have moved to Stain to set-up new home, the percentage who log to save ships is over 50% that is very high for any corp in eve so most be something they encourage because obviously there are a number of people in all corps who might use this tactic even if against corp policy but they are the minority of almost all corps. I assume most corp do not agree on this policy and will punish people who do - DO LV??

Just saw ur post Skape - Agg and a few of us are commenting on what we have seen, not speculation but based on what fact, I hope LV do not support this action, if the dont support it they need to make it clear again to there members as a number of them are ruining your reputation

Vyndicator
Amarr
Creative Destruction
Pupule 'Ohana
Posted - 2007.03.04 13:15:00 - [44]
 

hahahha.

Imagine that, someone from AAA having a whine thread about people logging off.

As people like to say, pot..kettle..you're both black.

Logging is lame, but why point the fingure at other people when your alliance do it just as much.


Laughing

Kam SingDu'k
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2007.03.04 13:16:00 - [45]
 

First of all LOLLLLL!11!!! at an -a- member complaining about logoff.

Secondly, I think that when you logoff, if you do get agroed in the process of warping off then the 15 min timer should go on. This means that bigger ships which usually will not be saved from a gatecamp will die, and the quicker inties etc would survive since they usually do 90% of the time.

This way it would also protect most of the people who genuinely crash since you still warp off and wait 1 min, its just that if you are unfortunate to get agro then you still die... but you cant please everyone.

Horza Otho
Minmatar
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.03.04 13:21:00 - [46]
 

Triple A complaining about logoff is like Rosey O'Donald complaining about eating food.

Ohmite
Minmatar
Kasparov Stratagems
Posted - 2007.03.04 13:30:00 - [47]
 

Some people need a reality check - just because a player joins AAA for one day does not mean he suddenly becomes a logoff.

The initial thread was based on what was seen in the recent days in a particular area by a few individuals not based on a reputation of said alliance a year ago and a different tactic altogether

AAA a while ago did use logoff in traps, they killed our frieghter in Supremacy doesnt mean they do it all the time, other alliances use the tactic just because AAA used it first - This thread is about logging in combat not logoff/on traps


Sameth
Caldari
Mercurialis Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2007.03.04 13:32:00 - [48]
 

AFAIK, -A- dont log off in bubbles like this lame ass ****, they organise traps and log IN on people, there is a very big difference. Logging off to avoid dying is fairly lame, logging in to get into combat? Its polar opposites.

FraXy
Caldari
0utbreak
Posted - 2007.03.04 13:42:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Sameth
AFAIK, -A- dont log off in bubbles like this lame ass ****, they organise traps and log IN on people, there is a very big difference. Logging off to avoid dying is fairly lame, logging in to get into combat? Its polar opposites.


Are we talking about the same AAA? Because the ones i`m familiar with got a gang killed in A2- inside a Large Bubble and 2-3 pilots logged off. Then continued logging on and off to "escape" being inside bubble.

This is hands on experience among a lot of other incidents. Please look at personal ranks/alliance before pointing fingers on other people.

The Beatnuts
Minmatar
UA Industry
Red Alliance
Posted - 2007.03.04 13:48:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Vyndicator
hahahha.

Imagine that, someone from AAA having a whine thread about people logging off.

As people like to say, pot..kettle..you're both black.

Logging is lame, but why point the fingure at other people when your alliance do it just as much.


Laughing


I can't see weather you can't understand or just don't want to.

AAA has been accused of loggin in/off before fights, avoiding something CCP still doesn't want to remove, the "local" chat.

But that's another conversation, totaly.

Or do you prefer continuing to talk about a whole alliance while killing their pilots only in pure ganks?

Vyndicator
Amarr
Creative Destruction
Pupule 'Ohana
Posted - 2007.03.04 13:49:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Sameth
AFAIK, -A- dont log off in bubbles like this lame ass ****, they organise traps and log IN on people, there is a very big difference. Logging off to avoid dying is fairly lame, logging in to get into combat? Its polar opposites.


Funny, every AAA I've had the pleasure of killing recently (ok I can't remember any who haven't) have logged in a bubble in a camp, or to save their pod.

It's a shame you people haven't fought against them to find out how good their "tactics" are (they die 90% of the time even when they log).

The Beatnuts
Minmatar
UA Industry
Red Alliance
Posted - 2007.03.04 13:49:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: FraXy
Originally by: Sameth
AFAIK, -A- dont log off in bubbles like this lame ass ****, they organise traps and log IN on people, there is a very big difference. Logging off to avoid dying is fairly lame, logging in to get into combat? Its polar opposites.


Are we talking about the same AAA? Because the ones i`m familiar with got a gang killed in A2- inside a Large Bubble and 2-3 pilots logged off. Then continued logging on and off to "escape" being inside bubble.

This is hands on experience among a lot of other incidents. Please look at personal ranks/alliance before pointing fingers on other people.


^
|

The Beatnuts
Minmatar
UA Industry
Red Alliance
Posted - 2007.03.04 13:50:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Vyndicator


It's a shame you people haven't fought against them to find out how good their "tactics" are (they die 90% of the time even when they log).


Yep, that what happens when you bring 10 people to kill one person.

Ty'derian
Minmatar
PPN United
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2007.03.04 13:51:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: FraXy
Originally by: Sameth
AFAIK, -A- dont log off in bubbles like this lame ass ****, they organise traps and log IN on people, there is a very big difference. Logging off to avoid dying is fairly lame, logging in to get into combat? Its polar opposites.


Are we talking about the same AAA? Because the ones i`m familiar with got a gang killed in A2- inside a Large Bubble and 2-3 pilots logged off. Then continued logging on and off to "escape" being inside bubble.

This is hands on experience among a lot of other incidents. Please look at personal ranks/alliance before pointing fingers on other people.


loooooooooooooool !!

Outbreak is talking about logoff on the Forum ? yesterday 5 of Outbreaks logoff in out bubbelcamp ! you should realy shut up on the forum

Vyndicator
Amarr
Creative Destruction
Pupule 'Ohana
Posted - 2007.03.04 13:52:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: The Beatnuts
Originally by: Vyndicator
hahahha.

Imagine that, someone from AAA having a whine thread about people logging off.

As people like to say, pot..kettle..you're both black.

Logging is lame, but why point the fingure at other people when your alliance do it just as much.


Laughing


I can't see weather you can't understand or just don't want to.

AAA has been accused of loggin in/off before fights, avoiding something CCP still doesn't want to remove, the "local" chat.

But that's another conversation, totaly.

Or do you prefer continuing to talk about a whole alliance while killing their pilots only in pure ganks?



Come fight us and we won't just gank you Wink

You're talking about something completely different, I couldn't care less about local chat or any of the surrounding "issues" some people have with it. The fact is AAA will log to save their ships and pods. Don't try to cloud the issue. If one of your alliance mates is whinging about someone else doing exactly the same thing....Understand yet?

TheArchJudge
Gallente
FinFleet
IT Alliance
Posted - 2007.03.04 13:53:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Sameth
AFAIK, -A- dont log off in bubbles like this lame ass ****, they organise traps and log IN on people, there is a very big difference. Logging off to avoid dying is fairly lame, logging in to get into combat? Its polar opposites.


Right, so having some dude login off to save his npc raven because he is a newb is lamer than having 100 people login in organised to gain an advantage thru surprise over the enemy?

I can tell you neither LV or Delta has a policy involving people loggin off in combat to save their ships. Nor do we have forum threads teaching people how to logoff like some alliances i know. Usualy people that logoff like this are people that are LV/Delta only with the name.

Better luck flaiming next time.

End Yourself
Minmatar
Dark Knights of Deneb
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2007.03.04 13:53:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Ohmite
Edited by: Ohmite on 04/03/2007 13:17:54
Everyone keeps saying about AAA logoff, my understanding is they are accused of logging off on mass and logging back in, some may think this is lame some may not - however this is about logging off in combat to save ship pod etc which is certainly different and is a purely selfish act to save ur ship and has no honour.

Since LV have moved to Stain to set-up new home, the percentage who log to save ships is over 50% that is very high for any corp in eve so most be something they encourage because obviously there are a number of people in all corps who might use this tactic even if against corp policy but they are the minority of almost all corps. I assume most corp do not agree on this policy and will punish people who do - DO LV??

Just saw ur post Skape - Agg and a few of us are commenting on what we have seen, not speculation but based on what fact, I hope LV do not support this action, if the dont support it they need to make it clear again to there members as a number of them are ruining your reputation



2 out of 3 LV BS we killed within the last 2 days in stain were killed after trying to save their ass logging off.

I don't (even really want to) know how many succeeded in saving their ass. Which is pretty sad numbers and i would act immidiately if it was my corp/alliance.

The Beatnuts
Minmatar
UA Industry
Red Alliance
Posted - 2007.03.04 13:55:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Vyndicator
Understand yet?


No, you guys are just too cool for me.

Vyndicator
Amarr
Creative Destruction
Pupule 'Ohana
Posted - 2007.03.04 13:56:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Ty'derian
Originally by: FraXy
Originally by: Sameth
-
-

This is hands on experience among a lot of other incidents. Please look at personal ranks/alliance before pointing fingers on other people.


loooooooooooooool !!

Outbreak is talking about logoff on the Forum ? yesterday 5 of Outbreaks logoff in out bubbelcamp ! you should realy shut up on the forum


Mail Marko with proof of it names/time/etc and they will be dealt with, our corp has a strick policy about metagaming, unlike most others in eve. They will be dealt with serverly.

FraXy
Caldari
0utbreak
Posted - 2007.03.04 13:59:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: The Beatnuts
Originally by: Vyndicator


It's a shame you people haven't fought against them to find out how good their "tactics" are (they die 90% of the time even when they log).


Yep, that what happens when you bring 10 people to kill one person.



Gonna have enough points to tackle.


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