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bunmastahflex
Fenscore Enterprises
United Corporations Against Macros
Posted - 2007.11.07 18:04:00 - [241]
 

Edited by: bunmastahflex on 07/11/2007 18:04:22
Originally by: Leobenn
Then I tried the other, which was inspace when I logged in. No matter how many tries I did, I can't pass the character selection screen. I select my character, it start loading 'Entering game as Leothys...'. When the loading bar reach the end, the game crash, and I'm back to my desktop.
I also found out that triyng to undock or opening the map with my docked character crashes the game as well.


i hate to post a "me too!", but me too! LaughingCrying or Very sadLaughing

... ended up having to get a GM to move me back into a station.

gentoo linux, ati-drivers-8.40.4, on a radeon mobility 9700... using the new cedega package.

Darahk J'olonar
Gallente
Trans Eve Organization
Posted - 2007.11.07 19:09:00 - [242]
 

Well get the new ATI drivers as they are WAY better than what you are currently using. Current version is 8.42.3 and they do indeed rock.

http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html

You will be happy you did!

scynobitch
Posted - 2007.11.09 04:31:00 - [243]
 

I have a toshiba laptop with a geforce 420go or 440go graphics card. Im using the nvidia drivers and I algo get the crash after I select my character. Eve was working ok with wine, just performance was bad. Also when eve starts up the splash screen shows fine, then it goes to fullscreen for the login, but the login box is all solid colors. I was able to make up the loging prompt and password prompt, but there was no graphics or text, just solid colors, sound did work.

Chakindra
Posted - 2007.11.11 00:19:00 - [244]
 

I'm rather pleasantly surprised by the smoothness of the new Linux client. I just installed it on a fresh version of 64-bit Ubuntu 7.10, and the only piece of hemlock in the wine was the "crash on splash" bug caused by using ALSA sound. Once I switched to OSS instead, I could actually play Eve under Linux! Laughing

Honestly, I had more trouble getting Ubuntu to play straight than to get Eve Online working. Thanks, guys. Keep up the good work! Cool

Mars Nine
Universal Services And Commerce
Posted - 2007.11.14 13:23:00 - [245]
 

I have nVidia GFX and Athlon processor. I now have a stable client working in Ubuntu 7.10.

Sadly I still can't get the wrapped "EvE-linux" client to work. My solution requires Cedega 6.0.3 (subscription).

The full description of my solution is in my posts (17 and 19) HERE.

Solidarity,

Mars

Mina Atreides
Posted - 2007.11.15 08:38:00 - [246]
 


Hi mates,

Ive installed debian testing with gnome on my notebook, kernel 2.6.22.2

1.7GHz centrino
ati 9200 mobile 64mb ram
512 SDRAM
-----------

I downloaded the .deb package, did a : dpkg -i xxx.deb .
The install took about 25 minutes and there were no problems whatsoever...

I did the "System Tests" in the EVE online configurator, passed all the tests.
Switched my sound to OSS.

When I run the game I get the splash screen, then it dies on me.
Activating debug shows the following in the logfiles :

0002:warn:x11drv:SWP_DoOwnedPopups (10021) hInsertAfter = 0000
0002:trace:x11drv:X11DRV_SetWindowStyle unmapping win 10021
0002:trace:x11drv:X11DRV_SetWindowPos status flags = 1887
0002:trace:x11drv:X11DRV_DestroyWindow win 10021 xwin 3400004/3400005
0002:trace:x11drv:X11DRV_RetargetGrabs
0002:fixme:xrender:X11DRV_XRender_Finalize Free cached glyphsets

I'm using the latest debian testing "xserver-xorg-video-ati" drivers

fyi, the notebook has a dual boot with winxp, game runs fine in winxp...

Can someone point me in the right direction ? never used wine/cedega ...

Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
Posted - 2007.11.15 11:09:00 - [247]
 

Originally by: Mina Atreides

Hi mates,

Ive installed debian testing with gnome on my notebook, kernel 2.6.22.2

1.7GHz centrino
ati 9200 mobile 64mb ram
512 SDRAM
-----------

I downloaded the .deb package, did a : dpkg -i xxx.deb .
The install took about 25 minutes and there were no problems whatsoever...

I did the "System Tests" in the EVE online configurator, passed all the tests.
Switched my sound to OSS.

When I run the game I get the splash screen, then it dies on me.
Activating debug shows the following in the logfiles :

0002:warn:x11drv:SWP_DoOwnedPopups (10021) hInsertAfter = 0000
0002:trace:x11drv:X11DRV_SetWindowStyle unmapping win 10021
0002:trace:x11drv:X11DRV_SetWindowPos status flags = 1887
0002:trace:x11drv:X11DRV_DestroyWindow win 10021 xwin 3400004/3400005
0002:trace:x11drv:X11DRV_RetargetGrabs
0002:fixme:xrender:X11DRV_XRender_Finalize Free cached glyphsets

I'm using the latest debian testing "xserver-xorg-video-ati" drivers

fyi, the notebook has a dual boot with winxp, game runs fine in winxp...

Can someone point me in the right direction ? never used wine/cedega ...


Yeah. you need the AMD/ATI binary video drivers to start with.

Do the following:

glxinfo |more

first page look for "direct rendering=yes" on 2nd page of that look for the video driver/card stuff. if it says "mesa/tungsten" you are on the wrong driver.

Go here: Envy

download, install the application and follow the directions on his site to install the proper ATI driver.

Toolzoid
Posted - 2007.11.22 14:07:00 - [248]
 

I have downloaded package from the site
when i run eve i get


$ eve -d
Multi-user install...
CEDEGA_PATH is /eve
This is the update checker...
Running /eve/.updater/cedega_updater.py
Running... /eve/.ui/runGUI
[email protected]:~/2/1$ ALSA lib seq_hw.c:457:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/lsb_release", line 282, in ?
main()
File "/usr/bin/lsb_release", line 246, in main
distinfo = get_distro_information()
File "/usr/bin/lsb_release", line 209, in get_distro_information
distinfo = guess_debian_release()
File "/usr/bin/lsb_release", line 163, in guess_debian_release
rinfo = guess_release_from_apt()
File "/usr/bin/lsb_release", line 131, in guess_release_from_apt
releases = parse_apt_policy()
File "/usr/bin/lsb_release", line 116, in parse_apt_policy
policy = commands.getoutput('apt-cache policy 2>/dev/null')
File "/usr/lib/python2.4/commands.py", line 44, in getoutput
return getstatusoutput(cmd)[1]
File "/usr/lib/python2.4/commands.py", line 55, in getstatusoutput
sts = pipe.close()
IOError: [Errno 10] No child processes
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/lsb_release", line 282, in ?
main()
File "/usr/bin/lsb_release", line 246, in main
distinfo = get_distro_information()
File "/usr/bin/lsb_release", line 209, in get_distro_information
distinfo = guess_debian_release()
File "/usr/bin/lsb_release", line 163, in guess_debian_release
rinfo = guess_release_from_apt()
File "/usr/bin/lsb_release", line 131, in guess_release_from_apt
releases = parse_apt_policy()
File "/usr/bin/lsb_release", line 116, in parse_apt_policy
policy = commands.getoutput('apt-cache policy 2>/dev/null')
File "/usr/lib/python2.4/commands.py", line 44, in getoutput
return getstatusoutput(cmd)[1]
File "/usr/lib/python2.4/commands.py", line 55, in getstatusoutput
sts = pipe.close()
IOError: [Errno 10] No child processes
[email protected]:~/2/1$


what is wrong? i see only splash window.

NightmoonEagle
Minmatar
Matari BackBone
Posted - 2007.11.23 11:03:00 - [249]
 

My Setup:
hardware:
Intel P4 3.06GHz
2GB RAM
NVidia GeForce4 MX 4000 (128MB RAM)
2GB SWAP (Virtual Mem)
2TB HDD free-space.

Software:
Fedora Core 8 - KDE-Live

Problem:
The Cedega wrappered version of EvE requires that I install the NVidia Legacy Drivers (from nvidia.com) or it won't go past the splash screen. Why? The MESA drivers that come with OpenGL don't allow direct access to the card (according to the config test). Ok, I get to the login screen and I see garble as if I'm using a videocard out of the early 1990's. Text areas are all white, non-text areas are black, and the background flickers orange.

What I need is a tool to modify the OpenGL settings, or better someone to help this tired man (I've been up 3-days straight with this) to see exactly why this video card works fine running EvE under Windoze, but won't work now under Linux.

PS. Most of my Linux work has been in kernel development, and db-infrustructure, not gaming. I'm not an idiot, really, just had different priorities, till now :)

NmE

NightmoonEagle
Minmatar
Matari BackBone
Posted - 2007.11.23 13:06:00 - [250]
 

Update.

System Info the same as above. This time attempting EvE under Wine9.

I get the Splash screen, the the Black screen (same size as splash) where my login screen should be. Have attempted changing from ALSA to OSS and back again, no change. The music plays, but the screen isn't there. Deleted the "cache" directory, as per Windoze problems, didn't help.

I'm systematically going through these forums to see if anything else will help, but they are growing exponentially, and would find it easier to get to response to this one, while I look :)

NmE

Methuselar
Posted - 2007.11.25 12:52:00 - [251]
 

I quit Cedega simply because it fails on EVE while wine do the job.
I had a strange look on my face when I realized that the official EVE linux client is but a dedicated Cedega for EVE...

Sigh. We want NATIVE client YARRRR!!, SDL+OpenGL pls!!

Snowcrash Winterheart2
Gallente
Concordia Discors
Posted - 2007.11.25 15:29:00 - [252]
 

Originally by: NightmoonEagle

The Cedega wrappered version of EvE requires that I install the NVidia Legacy Drivers (from nvidia.com) or it won't go past the splash screen. Why?


Wine requires this as well.

Why? Because Mesa 3D is not a driver for your graphics card, it provides basic, suplimental OGL stuff in software. The opensource nv driver that you are probably using (assuming you've never installed the Linux Nvidia stuff) has between zero and no 3D capabilities.

Best bet, slap on the Nvidia drivers (Legacy), yum, apt, synaptic... whatever the Fedora package manager is will probably do it for you. Yes, you do want it to modify your xorg.conf file if prompted. CTRL+ALT+BKSP when done (or just reboot).

Should be smooth sailing. Yeah I know "module nvidia tains kernel"... sod it.

Talis Mahn
Cotton Buds
Posted - 2007.12.01 22:01:00 - [253]
 

Does anyone know if there is a package similar to Envy, for Open SUSE? I've tried to DL the package from ATI for my Radeon Express 200M, but it won't recognize as a program. And they YAST system keeps installing the MESA driver. Its getting frustrating. I'd relly love to give Windows on my Laptop the boot so to speak.

Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
Posted - 2007.12.03 23:49:00 - [254]
 

Originally by: Talis Mahn
Does anyone know if there is a package similar to Envy, for Open SUSE? I've tried to DL the package from ATI for my Radeon Express 200M, but it won't recognize as a program. And they YAST system keeps installing the MESA driver. Its getting frustrating. I'd relly love to give Windows on my Laptop the boot so to speak.


I don't know that there is, but Alberto Milone (author of Envy) has expanded the program to Debian, so it might be good to email him and ask if he has any plans to 'expand' it to the other major distros. Interest and feedback on Envy is the only way it will get traction to other distros...and its currently the BEST way to install the binaries on debian/ubuntu with very little hassle for those who aren't comfortable with dependencies and command line skills.

lala rue
Posted - 2007.12.06 17:49:00 - [255]
 

Edited by: lala rue on 06/12/2007 17:49:48
Originally by: Talis Mahn
Does anyone know if there is a package similar to Envy, for Open SUSE? I've tried to DL the package from ATI for my Radeon Express 200M, but it won't recognize as a program. And they YAST system keeps installing the MESA driver. Its getting frustrating. I'd relly love to give Windows on my Laptop the boot so to speak.


you might try over here: http://suseforums.net/ and look around, also try http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html, I have a nvidia card and the nvidia does a much better job on their drivers from what I've read on various forums.


with the nvidia drivers, I had to point yast to the proper repository to get the drivers installed, so maybe AMD/ATI has something similar.

Rektash Narkesh
Posted - 2007.12.06 18:02:00 - [256]
 

Originally by: Leobenn
Edited by: Leobenn on 07/11/2007 09:44:31
Hey guys,

Not sure of where I should put this, so I'll try here.

I tried the Linux client yesterday, even if it's said not to work with ATI graphic cards (Radeon X1950XT). Well, the client launches anyway, & I could reach the login screen.
Login worked, I reached the character selection menu.
Then, problems started :
I got 2 characters on this account. One was docked in 0.0 when I tried the client, the other one was inspace in empire. Here's what happened :

I could log in with my docked character, went fine, Nice FPS (considering how bad it was with Wine, it was quite a good surprise :)), no major graphical issues.

Then I tried the other, which was inspace when I logged in. No matter how many tries I did, I can't pass the character selection screen. I select my character, it start loading 'Entering game as Leothys...'. When the loading bar reach the end, the game crash, and I'm back to my desktop.
I also found out that triyng to undock or opening the map with my docked character crashes the game as well.

Running Eve from the console show some errors on crashes, such as:
0004 :: Bad stuff : Client ignore select setting events from 0x001287834 (not sure about the last number, I'm at work atm)

I was then wondering if any workaround has been found for this problem.

And many thanks to CCP & Cedega for their works, keep on going ! :]

My specs :
Xubuntu 7.10 (using XFCE)
Athlon64 3200+
1.5 Go Ram
Ati Radeon X1950XT 256Mo (using proprietary driver)

Thanks in advance :)


P.S.: Since I'm french, my english may look quite weird, sorry about that :)


Same for me. "Bad Stuff" error when trying to log into the game with my character.

Mystica Shadowheart
Amarr
Posted - 2007.12.07 18:18:00 - [257]
 

Originally by: Rektash Narkesh
Originally by: Leobenn
Edited by: Leobenn on 07/11/2007 09:44:31
Hey guys,

Not sure of where I should put this, so I'll try here.

I tried the Linux client yesterday, even if it's said not to work with ATI graphic cards (Radeon X1950XT). Well, the client launches anyway, & I could reach the login screen.
Login worked, I reached the character selection menu.
Then, problems started :
I got 2 characters on this account. One was docked in 0.0 when I tried the client, the other one was inspace in empire. Here's what happened :

I could log in with my docked character, went fine, Nice FPS (considering how bad it was with Wine, it was quite a good surprise :)), no major graphical issues.

Then I tried the other, which was inspace when I logged in. No matter how many tries I did, I can't pass the character selection screen. I select my character, it start loading 'Entering game as Leothys...'. When the loading bar reach the end, the game crash, and I'm back to my desktop.
I also found out that triyng to undock or opening the map with my docked character crashes the game as well.

Running Eve from the console show some errors on crashes, such as:
0004 :: Bad stuff : Client ignore select setting events from 0x001287834 (not sure about the last number, I'm at work atm)

I was then wondering if any workaround has been found for this problem.

And many thanks to CCP & Cedega for their works, keep on going ! :]

My specs :
Xubuntu 7.10 (using XFCE)
Athlon64 3200+
1.5 Go Ram
Ati Radeon X1950XT 256Mo (using proprietary driver)

Thanks in advance :)


P.S.: Since I'm french, my english may look quite weird, sorry about that :)


Same for me. "Bad Stuff" error when trying to log into the game with my character.


Bad Stuff error here too. Randomly after 5-20 minutes of perfect gaming.

Ubuntu 7.10. ATI Mobility Radeon X700 7.11 drivers

Merende Macaco
Posted - 2007.12.08 12:13:00 - [258]
 

I gave up in frustration during the beta of the linux client, due to not being able to find the required packages, and went back to using Wine. Given the choice of getting the official client working, or being EVE-less, I was forced to redouble my earlier efforts. I now have a working client under Slackware 12.
Need to install the following:
pygtk-2.10.6-i686-1js.tgz
wxgtk-2.8.5-i486-1kjz.tgz
pycairo-1.4.0-i486-1gds.tgz
dbus-glib-0.74-i486-1.tgz
most of these can be found at http://sotirov-bg.net/slackpack/
and make sure that these official packages are installed:
libglade-2.6.1-i486-1.tgz
cairo-1.4.12-i486-1.tgz
as well as the gtk, gtk2 and python packages (which are normally there already)

I still get some errors in the console, but I didn't crash.
0004: Bad stuff: client ignore setting select events for 0x9004f974 to 1
Unable to create POSIX shm segment: Permission denied
sh: lsb_release: command not found

Other comments:
Compared to Wine, loading is extremely slow (2mins as opposed to a few seconds)
Some of the slowness I imagine is due to the necessity of re-downloading all the information that was cached under the other client, but the time required to get to the login screen could be better. (Especially for me, this means the difference between rescuing my stranded drones after a disconnect or not)

Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
Posted - 2007.12.24 07:36:00 - [259]
 

Originally by: Merende Macaco

Other comments:
Compared to Wine, loading is extremely slow (2mins as opposed to a few seconds)
Some of the slowness I imagine is due to the necessity of re-downloading all the information that was cached under the other client, but the time required to get to the login screen could be better. (Especially for me, this means the difference between rescuing my stranded drones after a disconnect or not)



TWO MINUTES???? Something ain't right. Start to login here is a very short amount of time. 20 seconds or so? (haven't put a stop watch on it, but then again, didn't feel any different than a normal eve client (xp) start up.

Merende Macaco
Posted - 2007.12.24 19:00:00 - [260]
 

I timed it out just to be sure:
on official client
Takes exactly two minutes to go from checking cedega updates to loadGUI, splash appears at 2:05, login screen at 3:40.

Using WINE with premium client, splash screen is instantaneous, complains about no sound at 0:31, and login screen appears at 0:59

previously I was getting my login screen at about 30 seconds.

I'll admit this system is a bit trailing edge but I can no longer blame an empty cache for the slowdown, and most of the time the HDD indicator isn't flashing so it isn't a slow load time from the drive. It seems to be spinning its wheels waiting on something.
sempron 2600+, NVidia 6600gt 128, 1.5 gigs ram.


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