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badgerfruit
Posted - 2007.09.01 16:01:00 - [151]
 

so um, when is the linux client to be released?
this would solver everybodys issues !!!!

Scorpyn
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
Posted - 2007.09.01 22:30:00 - [152]
 

Edited by: Scorpyn on 03/09/2007 19:19:58
Originally by: badgerfruit
so um, when is the linux client to be released?
this would solver everybodys issues !!!!

The closed beta seems to be scheduled to start next week. I don't think anyone knows how long time it'll take for it to be finished though.

Edit : They seem to be aiming for the end of the year according to the QA Devblog.

Ellioth Swann
Amarr
Aquilia Cohors Praetoria
Paxton Federation
Posted - 2007.09.06 01:29:00 - [153]
 

Hope it'll work with my gentoo! +1 more reason to delete windows! :).

Elseer Radak
Gallente
Project F3
TRUST Coalition
Posted - 2007.09.08 01:45:00 - [154]
 

Hi All,

I'm a cedega user. However EVE on cedega is very frustrating -- Cedega only allows one client to run. So if you have two or more accounts you cannot use them both. This relegates eve on Linux to the "skill change" category. Thus I rarely run EVE under Linux. After all, it's pretty hard to mine in Null sec without a hauler or a tanker! I hope that the under announced closed beta will include this critical feature!


Elseer R.

Ellioth Swann
Amarr
Aquilia Cohors Praetoria
Paxton Federation
Posted - 2007.09.08 16:48:00 - [155]
 

Oh, cedega is probably worth to try! Personally I don't need to run 2 clients at once at all, so I'll probably try running cedega.

P.S. The most interesting thing is the fact, that cpp are capable to run eve servers under windows).

Solbright
Advanced Security And Asset Protection
Posted - 2007.09.09 05:46:00 - [156]
 

Installing a second copy of Eve in another game folder solves that. You can run as many copies of Eve at once as you like.


badgerfruit
Posted - 2007.09.09 20:40:00 - [157]
 

so has the latest patch broken something in wine/linux?

before, i could run the game with wine 0.9.41 on opensuse10.2 until today when i downloaded and installed the patch (evepatch35183-36191.exe), now i get the splash-screen and then the infamous black-rectangle (where the logon bit should be)

*cries a lot cos ive spent sooo long to get the game to work before the patch came out*

Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
Posted - 2007.09.10 05:49:00 - [158]
 

Originally by: badgerfruit
so has the latest patch broken something in wine/linux?

before, i could run the game with wine 0.9.41 on opensuse10.2 until today when i downloaded and installed the patch (evepatch35183-36191.exe), now i get the splash-screen and then the infamous black-rectangle (where the logon bit should be)

*cries a lot cos ive spent sooo long to get the game to work before the patch came out*


Go back toward the end of page 4 and into page 5 of this thread. Solutions to the problem are there. (probably prefs.ini changes will work for you as sound is borked post eve patch under wine .9.44 without source patch.)

Space Winnebago
Gallente
Reaper Industries
Eternal Rapture
Posted - 2007.09.10 15:28:00 - [159]
 

I have eve running on ubuntu with cedega. I tryed crossover as well but it would crash after the login spash screen. Overall i'm happy it works, I'm a mac user primarily but linux has come a very long way in user compatibility not to mention almost everything is free. I would love to see a mac/linux client. Wow has a mac client and runs fine on my macbook. I run vista on the macbook to play eve which is the sole reason i have it on that laptop. I'm typing this from a linux box which cost me 350 bucks to build. System is a 3800 x2 with 2gb ram and a geforce 7600 GT. Framerate in cedega is 20-45 outside and 30-65 inside. It seems like you take a 30-50% hit on framerate over windows on the same machine. I had vista running it on the same pc before i installed linux over vista. I'm glad to see it works and the more support for linux the more refined it will be as well as more programs being made to work with it. Open source is really good stuff. Please bring a client to linux!



SillyWaif
Galactic Kingdom
Posted - 2007.09.11 18:55:00 - [160]
 

EVE Online to Linux:

Originally by: "Linuxlookup"
CCP Games, one of the world’s largest independent game developers, today announced a partnership with TransGaming Inc., a leading developer of software portability products for the electronic entertainment industry. The strategic relationship will enable CCP to deliver its popular massively multiplayer online game (MMOG), EVE Online, with Linux and Macintosh platforms later this year.


Read full article at LinuxLookup
(Submitted by Ty on September 11, 2007 - 10:00am.)

Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
Posted - 2007.09.12 01:47:00 - [161]
 

Originally by: SillyWaif
EVE Online to Linux:

Originally by: "Linuxlookup"
CCP Games, one of the world’s largest independent game developers, today announced a partnership with TransGaming Inc., a leading developer of software portability products for the electronic entertainment industry. The strategic relationship will enable CCP to deliver its popular massively multiplayer online game (MMOG), EVE Online, with Linux and Macintosh platforms later this year.


Read full article at LinuxLookup
(Submitted by Ty on September 11, 2007 - 10:00am.)


Tis a beautiful sight! We're official! WOOOOOT!!!Very HappyVery Happy

Campusanis
Posted - 2007.09.12 17:18:00 - [162]
 

Err... Don't you have to pay for Cedega? Something like 5 EUR a month? I'd be the first to test EVE on Linux as I've clearly been starting Windows way too often recently, but I couldn't handle another monthly fee.
Will they charge me for the client CCP and Transgaming are working on(the one QA talked about)?

Muscaat
EVE Markets
Posted - 2007.09.12 18:00:00 - [163]
 

Originally by: Campusanis
Err... Don't you have to pay for Cedega? Something like 5 EUR a month? I'd be the first to test EVE on Linux as I've clearly been starting Windows way too often recently, but I couldn't handle another monthly fee.
Will they charge me for the client CCP and Transgaming are working on(the one QA talked about)?

This has been answered elsewhere; there won't be any extra fee. You'll pay the same Eve subscription to get the client for your choice of OS.

From what I read, it'll be kind of like Google's Picasa for Linux: Wine is packaged transparently, so you don't (need to) know you're using a translation layer: It Just Works(TM).

invY Ancoron
Minmatar
Posted - 2007.09.12 18:35:00 - [164]
 

Hm. So where's the point, really?
Since Eve already works good with wine, making it working perfect can't be that hard (if it's just a wrapped client as you said).
Of course i'd like if eve officially supports linux, but couldn't they just participate in developing wine or making the windows client more compatible to wine?

hm...

Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
Posted - 2007.09.12 19:55:00 - [165]
 

Edited by: Sevarus James on 12/09/2007 19:56:07
Originally by: invY Ancoron
Hm. So where's the point, really?
Since Eve already works good with wine, making it working perfect can't be that hard (if it's just a wrapped client as you said).
Of course i'd like if eve officially supports linux, but couldn't they just participate in developing wine or making the windows client more compatible to wine?

hm...


The point is really simple, and CCP has made it clear in other threads:

They are building and maintaining a directx based MMO -read: MOVING TARGET due to continued evolution of the environment. They do NOT have the resources (manpower) to maintain multiple PLATFORM code-bases for EVE. This agreement with Transgaming in one stroke gets EVE on MACS as well as continued official support on the linux side.

Transgaming will be responsible for QA and support for those two platforms. CCP, working with them will ensure that the client is ON THE SAME LEVEL cross platform and at the same level of functionality.

With wine/cedega this is NOT the case: voice comms/sound issues come to mind here as well as patch day problems that affect the linux/mac community only.

If you wish to continue using wine or cedega, noone is stopping you. The OFFICIAL support will be with the 'wrapped' client.

And I'll say this again: there is NO PRICE DIFFERENCE OR ADDITIONAL COST by using this client. (seeing that stuff pop up yet again in threads.)

Cabrakan Naum
Gallente
Posted - 2007.09.12 23:27:00 - [166]
 

there is a big price difference, you do not have to pay a windows tax to play eve with a supported client version, so the linux version is less expensive

Rieger VaunBraun
Estrale Frontiers
Posted - 2007.09.13 16:14:00 - [167]
 

Originally by: invY Ancoron
Hm. So where's the point, really?
Since Eve already works good with wine, making it working perfect can't be that hard (if it's just a wrapped client as you said).
Of course i'd like if eve officially supports linux, but couldn't they just participate in developing wine or making the windows client more compatible to wine?

hm...


There is a big point for people like me. I am a complete Linux newb. I have tried getting EVE to run in Linux a couple times with almost no success. I would LOVE to be able to ditch windows so I can spend time learning Linux, but without EVE I just can't convince myself to boot into anything but Windows. If this client works and is seamless I will be finally able to lose my Windows drive and completely convert over. Happy days.


solbright altaltaltalt
Posted - 2007.09.15 10:41:00 - [168]
 

Originally by: Rieger VaunBraun
There is a big point for people like me. I am a complete Linux newb. I have tried getting EVE to run in Linux a couple times with almost no success. I would LOVE to be able to ditch windows so I can spend time learning Linux, but without EVE I just can't convince myself to boot into anything but Windows. If this client works and is seamless I will be finally able to lose my Windows drive and completely convert over. Happy days.

I suspect the one thing the new client won't do is install the needed OpenGL driver. You'll still have to solve that one yourself.


Eleftheria
Posted - 2007.09.15 15:44:00 - [169]
 

Hi.
Just installed wine-0.9.45 in Ubuntu 7.04. I copied the arial.ttf font
to the "c:\windows\fonts" of wine and the game is totally playable with no visible artifacts or jump/dock issues. The framerate is acceptable
with a Sempron 3000, nvidia 7600gs and 2 gigs ram. I also run the game from an NTFS partition (not that it makes a difference). All the sound options are ON. I use the 32bit version of Linux and wine.

Just spreading the word Very Happy

Mitor Herox
Posted - 2007.09.16 12:34:00 - [170]
 

Edited by: Mitor Herox on 16/09/2007 12:35:05
I tried the 0.9.45 from winehq apt source in ubuntu 7.04 and I have problems with fonts.
Some of the texts are all scrambled up. eve worked fine with 0.9.44 and now I downgraded to 0.9.41 and that has no problems with texts

Muscaat
EVE Markets
Posted - 2007.09.16 22:57:00 - [171]
 

Originally by: Mitor Herox

I tried the 0.9.45 from winehq apt source in ubuntu 7.04 and I have problems with fonts.
Some of the texts are all scrambled up. eve worked fine with 0.9.44 and now I downgraded to 0.9.41 and that has no problems with texts

0.9.45 fixes the sound problem (yay!) but I too get text corruption on about 75% of all text (boo!). Both the WineHQ repo version and a version I checked out of git the other week have this issue.

Scifi
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.09.18 02:56:00 - [172]
 

Man here I thought it was just me with that problem. Guess I'll have to wait till the Wine guys get it sorted.

ElfeGER
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.09.18 06:32:00 - [173]
 

Originally by: Scifi
Man here I thought it was just me with that problem. Guess I'll have to wait till the Wine guys get it sorted.


hmmm wine is working fine for me
maybe you are hitting http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8983?

Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
Posted - 2007.09.18 09:11:00 - [174]
 

Originally by: ElfeGER
Originally by: Scifi
Man here I thought it was just me with that problem. Guess I'll have to wait till the Wine guys get it sorted.


hmmm wine is working fine for me
maybe you are hitting http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8983?


Ditto on working fine here as well. (no issues with text, gfx or sound.) Frame rate is equaling cedega at this point.

solbright altaltaltalt
Posted - 2007.09.18 21:22:00 - [175]
 

Ah, someone on the Cedega forum has just reported the same problem. Looks like it may be something new to Eve rather than Wine.


solbright altaltaltalt
Posted - 2007.09.18 21:30:00 - [176]
 

Or maybe it's related to a particular version of nVidia's OpenGL driver. Plenty of speculation. :P


Drudd
Posted - 2007.09.18 21:50:00 - [177]
 

Hey there. Please excuse my ignorance in this topic, and whether or not this question has already been asked. From what I understand, this new Eve client will be built with Transgamings Cedega technology. Now does this mean that we will need to have Cedega in order to use it or is this new client simply using their technology and ideas just to get it to work on linux?

Muscaat
EVE Markets
Posted - 2007.09.18 22:01:00 - [178]
 

Originally by: ElfeGER
hmmm wine is working fine for me
maybe you are hitting http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8983?


That bug looks like it's simply replacing the correct font with a different typeface; this problem comes out looking like this... Sad

I will try a complete strip-down and reinstall of Wine and Eve, see if that sorts the problem out.

It's not a problem with the nVidia driver, since I get the same issue on my (ATi Radeon) laptop.

solbright altaltaltalt
Posted - 2007.09.18 22:26:00 - [179]
 

Originally by: Drudd
Now does this mean that we will need to have Cedega in order to use it or is this new client simply using their technology and ideas just to get it to work on linux?

Second option is correct.


solbright altaltaltalt
Posted - 2007.09.18 22:28:00 - [180]
 

Originally by: Muscaat
That bug looks like it's simply replacing the correct font with a different typeface;

Just chopping the font up I'd say.

Quote:
It's not a problem with the nVidia driver, since I get the same issue on my (ATi Radeon) laptop.

Good.



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