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Mattduk
Gallente
Universal Army
Posted - 2007.02.24 23:33:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Mattduk on 24/02/2007 23:33:16
I hate to rain on anyone's parade here, but for the love of god, can the devine fellas at CCP PLEEEAAASE seed another 2 or 3 of these damn BPOs?!

I don't care who gets it, anyone, just please please please introduce some competition for this most over priced of all modules. 80 goddamn million... for one goddamn module....

...It's criminal...

Rolling Eyes


edited for spelling



Berkey
Posted - 2007.02.24 23:34:00 - [2]
 

Invention has it covered mate!

hired goon
Posted - 2007.02.24 23:35:00 - [3]
 

Join us in a boycott!

Hypo Psycho
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2007.02.24 23:44:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Berkey
Invention has it covered mate!


if invention has it covered then why is it still so expensive Huh?
you know why because invention does not have it covered
next time think about your answer and then dont bother saying it


Brisi
Caldari
Posted - 2007.02.24 23:46:00 - [5]
 

You do know that the two or three people getting the new BPO's would just sell them at 80m too, don't you?

Supply is just much, much lower than demand, and it'll stay that way untill the Dev's fixes invention regarding these.

Lucifer Fellblade
Evocati.
Posted - 2007.02.24 23:57:00 - [6]
 

Invention does not have it covered, as there is no Cov Ops Cloak I, and thus Cov Ops Cloak II cannot be invented.

Xendie
Ad Astra Vexillum
Sc0rched Earth
Posted - 2007.02.25 00:02:00 - [7]
 

would be best if CCP sorted out so there are a full line of tech1 and tech2 cloaks with the tech1 cloaks seeded on market.

propably soon™ in the year 2047

PredatorPT
Unbound.
Posted - 2007.02.25 00:02:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Lucifer Fellblade
Invention does not have it covered, as there is no Cov Ops Cloak I, and thus Cov Ops Cloak II cannot be invented.


Inventing on a prototype cloak BPC can yield a improved cloak or covert ops cloak, much like inventing on a merlin can yield a hawk or a harpy.

PredatorPT
Unbound.
Posted - 2007.02.25 00:03:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Xendie
would be best if CCP sorted out so there are a full line of tech1 and tech2 cloaks with the tech1 cloaks seeded on market.

propably soon™ in the year 2047


T1 cloak BPO's have been seeded on the market already! Wink

Vladimir Tinakin
Caldari
Wife Aggro Productions
Posted - 2007.02.25 00:04:00 - [10]
 

When you run an invention job on a Prototype Cloaking Device I BPO (which has been NPC seeded now) you can get either an Improved Cloak II invention attempt or a Covert Ops Cloak II invention job (whether or not they succeed is another issue...)

I have personally created a 5-run Cv Ops Cloak II Run, and at -7 ME it still only costed 2M per cloak to build (counting the proto cloak!)

Selling one of them paid for the datacores :D

Problem is though, that the job is tricky, and if you get the improved cloak the payoff is not nearly as good. Additionally, it can still fail outright--my latest attempt gave me a "You have a good feel for the job, although nothing was produced"--whatever the hell that means.

Velsharoon
Gallente
Arcane Velshologies
Posted - 2007.02.25 00:21:00 - [11]
 

CCP arent competent you should know this already

I think T20 has a Cloaking II BPO

/sarcasm off

OR IS IT????

Thundercat Doom
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2007.02.25 01:57:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Vladimir Tinakin
Additionally, it can still fail outright--my latest attempt gave me a "You have a good feel for the job, although nothing was produced"--whatever the hell that means.


That is kinda like the Salvage message... "You have successfully salvaged, but unfortunately there was nothing to be salvaged" statement. Still trying to figure out how you can successfully salvage and not get anything, lol. Must be a CCP thing.

Zarch AlDain
GK inc.
Posted - 2007.02.25 02:54:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Thundercat Doom
Originally by: Vladimir Tinakin
Additionally, it can still fail outright--my latest attempt gave me a "You have a good feel for the job, although nothing was produced"--whatever the hell that means.


That is kinda like the Salvage message... "You have successfully salvaged, but unfortunately there was nothing to be salvaged" statement. Still trying to figure out how you can successfully salvage and not get anything, lol. Must be a CCP thing.


Actually the salvage one does make sense - although the wording could be better

It's basically saying 'I managed to open the box but the box was empty'. Failed is 'I couldnt open the box' and succeded is 'I opened the box and found the shineys'.

Taedrin
Gallente
Kushan Industrial
Posted - 2007.02.25 03:27:00 - [14]
 

As has been mentioned before, you can get a Cov Ops BPC when you do invention on a prototype cloak. It's just that there is so much demand for prototype cloaks that invention isn't enought to bring down the price.

Xendie
Ad Astra Vexillum
Sc0rched Earth
Posted - 2007.02.25 03:37:00 - [15]
 

i still think they should make a full line of cloaks for both T1 and T2

proto cloak 1 -> improved cloak 1 -> covert ops cloak 1 = available on market as bpo's
proto cloak 2 -> improved cloak 2 -> covert ops cloak 2 = available via invention.

if you are going to have a set module/item formula you should follow the formula for all modules/items.



ScreamingLord Sutch
Hand in Mouth
Posted - 2007.02.25 03:49:00 - [16]
 

Option A - See opportunity, invent them and make a fortune;

Option B - Whine on forums;


...

prathe
Minmatar
Omega Enterprises
Imperial Republic Of the North
Posted - 2007.02.25 06:49:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: prathe on 25/02/2007 06:47:02
Originally by: Thundercat Doom
Originally by: Vladimir Tinakin
Additionally, it can still fail outright--my latest attempt gave me a "You have a good feel for the job, although nothing was produced"--whatever the hell that means.


That is kinda like the Salvage message... "You have successfully salvaged, but unfortunately there was nothing to be salvaged" statement. Still trying to figure out how you can successfully salvage and not get anything, lol. Must be a CCP thing.


yeah its part of the " all the new hardware will fix the lag intiative" of 2006 Very Happy

Kari Moltov
Amarr
Prometheus Industries
Posted - 2007.02.25 13:23:00 - [18]
 

Naturally people will, with the (forgive the pun) invention of invention, tend towards attaining items which will provide them with the greatest profit. This is will happen quickly because people want to cash in on great margins before their very actions flood the market and depress prices.

As such the items on the market which currently produce obscene profits will be invented first.

Covert Cloak prices will fall because such high prices will cause people to invent them to use and not buy but more so more and more supply accross a great player base will supply.

This greater number of suppliers makes holding prices highd difficult.

Prices will come down!

ee21k
Posted - 2007.02.25 13:35:00 - [19]
 

he is right so we should start selling datacores at 3000% CURRENT market price so when invention kicks off we all make a tidy profit

Malthros Zenobia
Posted - 2007.02.25 14:46:00 - [20]
 

Seed T1 cov-ops cloaks and give them some sort of penalty, problem solved.Confused

SumDum
AirHawk Alliance
Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
Posted - 2007.02.25 15:41:00 - [21]
 

Could you describe the ruckus?

Seriously, I still don't see the problem here, people are obviously paying the steep price for the module. Sure it might feel like falling arse first on a flagpoleShocked, but it's a niche item, only fitting on a few ships.

Don't like it? Don't waste your time training up for cov ops stuff. Skip straight to the pew pew!

Akat
Slacker Industries
Posted - 2007.02.25 15:59:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Brisi
You do know that the two or three people getting the new BPO's would just sell them at 80m too, don't you?

Supply is just much, much lower than demand, and it'll stay that way untill the Dev's fixes invention regarding these.


This is not the case and I suggest you check market. Domain market currently shows 36 and you can count on seeing similar volumes on market regularly. This isn't a case of supply exceedign demand. Its simply pure greed.

Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
Posted - 2007.02.25 16:17:00 - [23]
 

Maybe they pwn so hard so they are expensive?

da marko
Posted - 2007.02.25 16:30:00 - [24]
 

I tried inventions on this item for a week, but not 1 single bpc out of it.
maybe it's bugged, maybe there are even harder to make then ships, but it shouldn't be...


 

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