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Raoden Tanstaafl
Gallente
Posted - 2007.02.22 16:19:00 - [1]
 

I'm using a Gallente Catalyst Destroyer, whose maximum speed should be around 225 m/sec. However, my ship only tops out at 174, a huge difference... Even with a afterburner, I can only get 314 out of it... SO what determines ship speeds...

A friend of mine was saying it was mass of stuff equipped and or carrying, which in a zero-g environment makes no sense. Excessive mass would affect how fast a ship reaches it's top speed, but shouldn't affect the actual top speed itself. There's no environment causing friction or resistance on the ship itself. Once momentum builds up, should keep on going til it reaches top speed...

Mass would also affect the time it takes to stop a ship, again a zero-g environment and momentum...

So what can I do to maximise my speed better? This destroyer is a way sloooooooow behemoth...


PMolkenthin
TunDraGon
Posted - 2007.02.22 16:27:00 - [2]
 

To increase velocity, train Navigation to level V, and fit overdrive injectors/nanofibres. To increase the boost from your AB/MWD, train Acceleration control. With good skills and an MWD+Nano's, a frigate should do in excess of 2000m/s.

Eleana Tomelac
Gallente
Eclats de verre
Posted - 2007.02.22 16:32:00 - [3]
 

There are some modules that lower your speed, cargo expanders are the most common.
Also, Armor plates (50mm to 1600mm stuff) will slow your ship while using afterburner (because increasing mass).

When you play Eve, do not think too much about zero-g physics, it's not the way it works...
You have max speed (should not), your ship turns and stops like an airplane...

It is very strnge that you don't get to full speed, maybe you clicked in the speed bar and set manually a speed that is not max (you have to clock bit on the right to set full speed, it shows the speed you will set it too).
Also, if you orbit, you may not reach full speed if orbit is too short.
What speed do you see when you use "show info" on your ship (not on the ship type in market, the top speed when you are in the ship is recalculated with skills and fitting).

Guaradar
Posted - 2007.02.22 16:33:00 - [4]
 

What modules do you have equipped? Several modules, for example cargo expanders, have a side effect of lowering your top speed. It is very likely you have several of these modules equipped.

Mass only plays a part in maximum velocity if you are using an afterburner or a MWD.

Your maximum velocity without using an AB or MWD is affected by the following:

Base velocity
Navigation skill (+5% per level)
Some ships use the skill in that ship type to also increase velocity (some industrials, for example)
Rigs (some increase, some decrease)
Implants (like the snake implants)
boosters (some boosters will increase or decrease speed)
T2 weapons/ammo (some decrease maximum speed)
Modules (cargo expanders decrease, overdrive increases, etc.)

William McCracken
Gallente
The Graduates
Brutally Clever Empire
Posted - 2007.02.22 16:43:00 - [5]
 

My guess is you've got an armor plate equipped.

Repeat after me "this isn't the real world". Newtonian physics do not apply. In the RW there is no "maximum velocity" in space. In Eve there is. In the RW mass doesn't affect "maxium velocity" In Eve it does.

Keep your expectations reasonable, a destroyer is never going to run down a frigate. Just slap some rails on it, and blow them out of the sky from 15 km, and laugh maniacally.


GC13
Caldari
Species 5618
R0ADKILL
Posted - 2007.02.22 16:51:00 - [6]
 

Assuming that your ship is still flying slowly even with the fitting stripped (or shows that 225 m/s max speed when you Show Info it in space)...

Look at the blue curvey liney thingie down there with your speed in it. Does it take up all of the space for it, or only some of it. Click on the little arrow thing on the right side of it a few times to let the ship know you want to go full speed.

Raoden Tanstaafl
Gallente
Posted - 2007.02.22 17:08:00 - [7]
 

I was coming up with the max velocity based on the speed thing at the bottom of the screen, the right white triangle next to the speed meter... that how I knew my max speed was only 174... my guess would be the cargo expanders I have equipped... so I'll try a couple different configurations...

thanx

GC13
Caldari
Species 5618
R0ADKILL
Posted - 2007.02.22 17:14:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Raoden Tanstaafl
my guess would be the cargo expanders I have equipped...
Confused Yeah, that would probably do it, considering how cargo expanders reduce your maximum velocity by a percentage. Like I said in my first post, strip your fitting and you'll be fine.

Guaradar
Posted - 2007.02.22 17:19:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: William McCracken
In the RW there is no "maximum velocity" in space.


Not to be overly pedantic but widely accepted theories say you can't go faster than the speed of light, even in the RW, so that would be a "maximum velocity." Wink

Tunajuice
Convergent
Firmus Ixion
Posted - 2007.02.22 17:29:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Guaradar
Originally by: William McCracken
In the RW there is no "maximum velocity" in space.


Not to be overly pedantic but widely accepted theories say you can't go faster than the speed of light, even in the RW, so that would be a "maximum velocity." Wink


Going the speed of light makes for some rather interesting effects, just like matter being at absolute zero.

Illyria Ambri
SMASH Alliance
Posted - 2007.02.22 20:15:00 - [11]
 

Theoreticly...as humanity has never acheived either FTL technology or reached absolute zero.

William McCracken
Gallente
The Graduates
Brutally Clever Empire
Posted - 2007.02.22 20:30:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Guaradar
Originally by: William McCracken
In the RW there is no "maximum velocity" in space.


Not to be overly pedantic but widely accepted theories say you can't go faster than the speed of light, even in the RW, so that would be a "maximum velocity." Wink


Very true, however there has been some work that has poked some holes in the Theory of Relativity. It's entirely possible that Einstein was, if not wrong, at least not entirely correct.

Regardless, barring relativistic speed, there is is no practical maximum velocity in space.

Eve-verse breaks both Newtonian, and Relativistic physics. I, for one, would like to see how a game would work that correctly modeled RW physics.


Guaradar
Posted - 2007.02.22 20:42:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: William McCracken
I, for one, would like to see how a game would work that correctly modeled RW physics.


Now that we've completely hijacked the thread...YARRRR!!

A game like this wouldn't work with real physics, which is what I think you were trying to insinuate...

If you made an exception for FTL travel, then it could work, but the game would be a lot different.


 

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