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CCP Abraxas

Posted - 2007.02.13 23:34:00 - [1]
 

Today we have two new Chronicles for you.

The first is Methods of Torture - The Caldari, the last in the torture tetralogy. As I mentioned in relation to the Gallente story, this one serves as a counterpoint, and is as cerebral as the Gallente one was physical.

The second is on the Amarr order known as The Speakers of Truth. They've been quiet for a long while, but may not be much longer.

HankMurphy
Minmatar
Pelennor Swarm
Posted - 2007.02.13 23:58:00 - [2]
 

"It is a symptom of madness that thoughts become uncontrollably disjointed. This can be encouraged."

^^ this may be goin in my bio Twisted Evil

sounds like the dude got the hi-tech caldari equivalent of a transorbital lobotomy, which is right up my alley of entertainment!

again, well done.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2007.02.14 00:10:00 - [3]
 

Deal the least amount of damage to acheive a purpose.
Don't kill for the sake of killing, keep your subject alive to serve its purpose as deterrent for others.
Don't take pleasure in dealing pain. Heck, don't deal physical pain at all, if possible. If you must kill, do it quick and clean.

Cold, methodical efficiency. Nothing more, nothing less.
Well, what can I say, Caldari at its best.

Se'la Rox
Caldari
Lensmen
Posted - 2007.02.14 00:18:00 - [4]
 

...and that is quite possibly the scariest Chronicle so far Shocked

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2007.02.14 00:19:00 - [5]
 

by the gods, caldarians are truly cruelShocked


...the prospect of turning someone insane like that really turns me onTwisted Evil

Pellaeon DuGalle
Caldari
Deep Black Industries
House of Mercury
Posted - 2007.02.14 00:51:00 - [6]
 

/emote whimpers

Jacob Castillo
Caldari
Eternal Perseverance
Posted - 2007.02.14 01:08:00 - [7]
 

Note to self: Do not **** off the Caldari.

SonOTassadar
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2007.02.14 05:46:00 - [8]
 

I love it.

However, if it were me, I would be more of a Gallente-style torturer. Not that I would ever, you know, do things like that. >_>

Don't give me that look.

Maze La'Zie
Sons Of 0din
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2007.02.14 08:45:00 - [9]
 

Oh yes.

Ouch.

Ms Freak
Amarr
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
Posted - 2007.02.14 09:52:00 - [10]
 

Well,

These 4 chronicals have been very good. Each with thier own unique, slightly twisted edge.

I think the Galentte one was the most disturbing for me, and the minmatar once the most phycological (for me anyways).

Very nice work, i enjoyed reading them all.

Stitcher
Caldari
Posted - 2007.02.14 16:37:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Jacob Castillo
Note to self: Do not **** off the Caldari.


QFT.

Outstanding stuff, and IMO the best of the lot.

Kylania
Gallente
Phoenix Industries
Sylph Alliance
Posted - 2007.02.14 16:51:00 - [12]
 

Wow.. well done, didn't think I could feel more creepy than the fedo one, but you've done it. Very Happy

Lady Kinla
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.02.14 17:42:00 - [13]
 

Makes me proud to be Caldari! Very Happy

xeom
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.02.14 19:09:00 - [14]
 

Wait wait did the guy ever get free?

Or was the whole time he t****d,and just going mad?
Like including the part where he wen't shoping and found the old friend?

What was the point of leaving him with the images behind his eyes?

Kanthras
Gallente
Balsarferskratchin Inc
Axiom Empire
Posted - 2007.02.14 20:08:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: xeom
Wait wait did the guy ever get free?

Or was the whole time he t****d,and just going mad?
Like including the part where he wen't shoping and found the old friend?

What was the point of leaving him with the images behind his eyes?


I think they let him go free, but the constant images would keep torturing him into insanity for the rest of his life.

Scary... ugh

Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2007.02.14 22:34:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Patch86 on 15/02/2007 00:44:54
Lets see, having your body shredded, or your mind minced? How could you possibly choose? Razz

Another cracker, keep 'em coming Abraxas!

I'll save the Speakers of Truth one for a bit later, I think. With this whole 2-week schedule thing, I should pace myself Cool

Se'la Rox
Caldari
Lensmen
Posted - 2007.02.14 23:33:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Se''la Rox on 14/02/2007 23:30:08
Originally by: Kanthras
I think they let him go free, but the constant images would keep torturing him into insanity for the rest of his life.


Into insanity? I'd say that he went into insanity, through insanity and came out the other side into somewhere even weirder Wink

Liisa
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2007.02.15 00:18:00 - [18]
 

Well, that really was an eye opener. My take is that the person is allowed to steadily progress into insanity while the whole community is forced to watch. The induced images together with the isolation ... it makes me shudder.

Something that bothered me, though I might just have missed it, is that there seems to be no explicit conditioning that stops the subject from commiting suicide. Is this because the person is allowed to escape his punishment (through suicide) and thus showing how weak he is or was is such a prevention there, just simply not mentioned because it would detract from the main point of the story?

Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2007.02.15 00:48:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Patch86 on 15/02/2007 00:44:43
EDIT: null

xeom
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.02.15 03:21:00 - [20]
 

What would be the point of toturing him for the rest of his life?

Indra Sebuchiore
Posted - 2007.02.15 09:21:00 - [21]
 

It reminds me a lot of the end 1984, where Winston Smith is released once he has been broken, and everyone avoids him. He knows that one day the bullet in the back of his neck will come, and he rejoices for this day.

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2007.02.15 12:22:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: xeom
What would be the point of toturing him for the rest of his life?


example.


simple as.

Hon Kovell
Gallente
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2007.02.15 22:46:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: xeom
What was the point of leaving him with the images behind his eyes?


There's some differences between Caldari and Gallente cultures but their shared history is showing here. They're both quite capable of getting whatever information they want with ease. Their torture is for show, to set an example.

Just like in the Gallente story, he's really being used as an example to others. Don't cause trouble or you will be damaged and images left in your mind to torture you for the rest of your life. They did the same in the Gallente story - they just didn't need the implant since the subject had a short life expectancy.

Ket Halpak
ANZAC ACADEMY
Posted - 2007.02.16 02:24:00 - [24]
 

I found the difference between the caldari and the gallente meathods was that the caldari torturers were doctors, who were perceived as being cold, mechanical and precise. They did what was necessary to make an example out of someone in their own uniqe way.

The gallente torturers were more personal with the victim and seemed to take enjoyment in the fear they inflicted, such as by showing him the tools of torture and asking him what he could do, even though there was no correct answer.

Great stories the torture series.

Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
Posted - 2007.02.16 19:11:00 - [25]
 

Very 1984ish

Matrix Aran
Reikoku
IT Alliance
Posted - 2007.02.16 23:09:00 - [26]
 

Now thats it! Definately the right tone this time, disturbing and nothing about it feels out of place or excessive. It never breaks the imersion in the story. Very reminisant of the Manchurian Candidate (probably the remake, never got a chance to see the original), very creepy.

Lady Kinla
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.02.18 17:03:00 - [27]
 

This one actually gave me goosebumps. Confused It is by far the scariest of the series.

DarVellon
Caldari
Lone Star Joint Venture
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2007.02.19 09:58:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: DarVellon on 19/02/2007 09:56:17
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: xeom
What would be the point of toturing him for the rest of his life?


example.


simple as.


I disagree, as his 'old friend' was 'treated' the same way it's not an example.
It is efficient, that is all.
This way the offender can never gain any job or function of power or control. His 'treatment' would prevent this.
But he will still be usefull as a common worker.
The Gallente have to many people it seems.. Caldari however do not waste workforce....

Jaerl
Caldari
Nice Boat Owners Club
Posted - 2007.02.19 12:50:00 - [29]
 

Definitely worth the wait for this last torture chronicle, the best of them imo, followed closely by the Amarr one cos it was just so godammned funny.

Caldari = win

Tarminic
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2007.02.21 20:14:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Liisa
Well, that really was an eye opener. My take is that the person is allowed to steadily progress into insanity while the whole community is forced to watch. The induced images together with the isolation ... it makes me shudder.

Something that bothered me, though I might just have missed it, is that there seems to be no explicit conditioning that stops the subject from commiting suicide. Is this because the person is allowed to escape his punishment (through suicide) and thus showing how weak he is or was is such a prevention there, just simply not mentioned because it would detract from the main point of the story?


Comitting suicide would perfectly serve the caldari needs as well - think about it. The entire point of his 'torture' was to make an example out of him, as someone who succumbed to a petty temptation for vague thoughts of personal gain. This signifies a moment of intellectual weakness and a loss of the willpower to control himself. If he committed suicide, it would also signify a loss of willpower - the will to live with his crimes and his social exile. He would make an example of himself as the ultimate weakness, not only did he commit theft without the intelligence to do so without getting caught, but to escape his punishment he killed himself. Either way, he makes a perfect example.
A scary people, the Caldari are.


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