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welsh wizard
Caldari
0utbreak
KrautbreaK
Posted - 2007.01.30 13:10:00 - [421]
 

Hes basically a tabloid reporter, stirring up animosity between any number of parties then claiming freedom of the press.

Just read it as you read the Sun or the Mirror, in a jovile manner with a pinch of salt.

Husari Painen
Caldari
Independant News Agency
Posted - 2007.01.30 13:14:00 - [422]
 

I'll just take a small break to reply to some of you:

- To the ones who are prasing my work: Thank you, I will do my best to keep you informed
- To the ones proposing improvements: I have read all constructive proposals so far and I will try implementing what I like and find correct. We all have our opinions and I reserve mine to dislike a certain proposal
- To the ones openly disrespecting me: You are on ignore. I am reading your posts becouse there might be something usefull information in every line. But don't hold your breath in vain for my reply on your specific post. This is the last time I'm mentioning it.

The trouble is that I am the:
- News reporter
- Journalist on the field
- Analyst

So forgive me when I swicth from reporting to commenting and drawing conclusions. Dry news are plain boring. Too colored comments are flamebait. I need to find the middle.

Even world news agencies do their reporting of the events in 2 ways. When a certain african tribe anihilates 500,000 people its reported with less value then when someone tries to rob Dieter Bohlen (Modern Talking anyone?). If I think that a certain event has no or little value on the topic of BOB invading north then I will skip it or report it superficially. If I think that it has a major impact (like last nights patrol trough north) then I will give it more space and thought.

To finish with repeating again: If you feel you can contribute in constructive manner to this feel free to gather your news and put them here. Post your views on the situation, discuss BOB tactics, D2 intentions etc. I also invite ASCN members to post their view on how they could have performed better, since we all know that everyone is a perfect general after the battle.

I will go back now to reporting.

welsh wizard
Caldari
0utbreak
KrautbreaK
Posted - 2007.01.30 13:20:00 - [423]
 

Edited by: welsh wizard on 30/01/2007 13:17:28
nm

NATMav
Caldari
F.R.E.E. Explorer
The Initiative.
Posted - 2007.01.30 14:12:00 - [424]
 

Edited by: NATMav on 30/01/2007 14:08:28
So the north mobilizes to fight off BoB and we're overeacting.

If the north does nothing they are weak carebears.

You can't have it both ways BoB. You've been crying for months that D2 and IRON are a shadow of their former selves and are less worthy of note than many carebear alliances, and now you're crying because they are proving you wrong.

Roadtrip or not, there is definitely a plan being carried out here that will affect the larger scheme in some shape or form. I can only assume that BoB is either seeing just how soft the north is, or diverting our attention away from the south for their own benefit. It's certainly more beneficial for them to be in the north harrassing our pilots than to have us down there.

I don't believe for one second that all the wardeccing is just so BoB can have fun pew pew, because that makes absolutely no sense at all, and it's not really their style.

Lady Antares
Caldari
Blackwater USA Inc.
Gentlemen's Club
Posted - 2007.01.30 14:20:00 - [425]
 

Best defence is a strong offence. I'd be interesting to see if the north would invade BoB space, rather then let BoB take the initiative once again. It probably wont happen but you never know

Dracorimus
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2007.01.30 14:35:00 - [426]
 

Originally by: Cardassius
Originally by: Exus
Originally by: Cardassius
Edited by: Cardassius on 30/01/2007 09:12:05
We are having fun in the North :)

And to Husari, bring some real news please!

BoB came with a gang of 30 to your system, the North didn't try to attack untill they had 60+


You loose engagement and BoB backup your asses. remember yesterday ?
tsss


More enemy iskies were destroyed than friendly, that is what counts my friend.
And for BoB helping.. well.. you could have attacked us when were further away from our home system? BoB were in shuttles :)


LOL even in shuttles we get em panicking YARRRR!!
Go Thol !!!

Funky Feeling
Caldari
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2007.01.30 14:54:00 - [427]
 

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Habraka
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2007.01.30 15:00:00 - [428]
 

Originally by: Dracorimus

LOL even in shuttles we get em panicking YARRRR!!
Go Thol !!!


Yeah, BoB Lite is quite some force. Who wouldn't be scared?

Tholarim
Amarr
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance
Posted - 2007.01.30 15:05:00 - [429]
 

Edited by: Tholarim on 30/01/2007 15:03:04
Originally by: Habraka
Originally by: Dracorimus

LOL even in shuttles we get em panicking YARRRR!!
Go Thol !!!


Yeah, BoB Lite is quite some force. Who wouldn't be scared?


Since you refuse to fight us with anywhere near to equal odds, i assume you would be scared indeed. If you're mistaking our willingness to engage for being crap, i think you're overestemating yourselves.

Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.01.30 15:10:00 - [430]
 

Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 30/01/2007 15:08:13
Originally by: Dracorimus

LOL even in shuttles we get em panicking YARRRR!!
Go Thol !!!


Here you go again with the panicking Laughing

Seems to me that the only people "panicking" are BOB as they scamper around trying to rethink their plan in time to save some face.

Those nasty evil Northern NAP monkeys have got organized and its sooo not fair Razz

I expect a hundred BOB trolls to come beat me down on the forum for saying that, but tbh, we'd rather you did your fighting with guns...not on the forums Wink

Can I blow u a kiss now....x

Edit...and why should we engage you with equal numbers. We want to kill you, not play with you Laughing Do your gank squads engage badly fitted npc ratters with the same thoughts...I dont think so Rolling Eyes

Exus
Caldari
Die Trying
Circle-Of-Two
Posted - 2007.01.30 15:24:00 - [431]
 

Originally by: Tholarim
Edited by: Tholarim on 30/01/2007 15:03:04
Originally by: Habraka
Originally by: Dracorimus

LOL even in shuttles we get em panicking YARRRR!!
Go Thol !!!


Yeah, BoB Lite is quite some force. Who wouldn't be scared?


Since you refuse to fight us with anywhere near to equal odds, i assume you would be scared indeed. If you're mistaking our willingness to engage for being crap, i think you're overestemating yourselves.

Why engaging ? Keep roaming, you will get a fight when we want, not when you want.

Hast
Amarr
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.01.30 15:27:00 - [432]
 

I find this post insanely funny.

I'm gonna turn it around abit.

D2 et al have been running around the south for a while now, in small ganksquad. They are definately probing the south looking for a weak spot. I believe its just a matter of time before they do a full on invasion on the south. I even saw a D2 carrier in stain. So they have moved capitals. And once, I saw three(!!!!!) freighters in agil. They must be moving POS stuff to the south!

The invasion is coming, I better go prepare my Tinfoil jumpsuit so I am ready for it.

THE END IS NEAR! THE END IS NEAR!

LUKEC
Amarr
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance
Posted - 2007.01.30 15:30:00 - [433]
 

Originally by: Exus
Originally by: Tholarim
Edited by: Tholarim on 30/01/2007 15:03:04
Originally by: Habraka
Originally by: Dracorimus

LOL even in shuttles we get em panicking YARRRR!!
Go Thol !!!


Yeah, BoB Lite is quite some force. Who wouldn't be scared?


Since you refuse to fight us with anywhere near to equal odds, i assume you would be scared indeed. If you're mistaking our willingness to engage for being crap, i think you're overestemating yourselves.

Why engaging ? Keep roaming, you will get a fight when we want, not when you want.


I might be playing POTBS by then.

Habraka
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2007.01.30 15:30:00 - [434]
 

Originally by: Tholarim

Since you refuse to fight us with anywhere near to equal odds, i assume you would be scared indeed. If you're mistaking our willingness to engage for being crap, i think you're overestemating yourselves.


Equal force Laughing. Why the hell would we like to fight on equal terms with BoB? Didn't you bring 600+ people and a bunch of pet alliances to take the Trust outpost in EC? You come attack the north, we mount an adequate defence, and now you're whining cause we outnumber you?

Besides, I always thought BoB liked to fight outnumbered and usually even won those battles.


Habraka
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2007.01.30 15:32:00 - [435]
 

Originally by: Habraka

Besides, I always thought BoB liked to fight outnumbered and usually even won those battles.



Woops, nevermind, just noticed you are DICE Embarassed.

LUKEC
Amarr
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance
Posted - 2007.01.30 15:32:00 - [436]
 

Originally by: Flinx Evenstar


Edit...and why should we engage you with equal numbers. We want to kill you, not play with you Laughing Do your gank squads engage badly fitted npc ratters with the same thoughts...I dont think so Rolling Eyes


If you only knew how your corp mates are begging for vouchers to get in DICE.

I guess your charm comes in limited supply.

Hast
Amarr
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.01.30 15:34:00 - [437]
 

Originally by: Habraka
Originally by: Tholarim

Since you refuse to fight us with anywhere near to equal odds, i assume you would be scared indeed. If you're mistaking our willingness to engage for being crap, i think you're overestemating yourselves.


Equal force Laughing. Why the hell would we like to fight on equal terms with BoB? Didn't you bring 600+ people and a bunch of pet alliances to take the Trust outpost in EC? You come attack the north, we mount an adequate defence, and now you're whining cause we outnumber you?

Besides, I always thought BoB liked to fight outnumbered and usually even won those battles.




waaah waaah wah EC-P8R waaah

that happened like ten months ago?

you need to get some new things to whine about, but hey... Not much of signifigance has happened in the north since then has it? Rolling Eyes

fire 59
Gallente
Destructive Influence
KenZoku
Posted - 2007.01.30 15:46:00 - [438]
 

Edited by: fire 59 on 30/01/2007 16:26:50
Wdit - nm . Not going to be drawn into it, wasteing one's breath tbh








Laboratus
Gallente
Invicta.
Cry Havoc.
Posted - 2007.01.30 15:46:00 - [439]
 

Originally by: Hast


waaah waaah wah EC-P8R waaah

that happened like ten months ago?

you need to get some new things to whine about, but hey... Not much of signifigance has happened in the north since then has it? Rolling Eyes


Not much? Your kidding me right?
The whole map has changed since then.
The Five is gone.
FE is gone.
PA is gone.
KAOS is gone.
NBSI is gone.
TBB is gone.
BFR is gone.
Sunstrom dominion is gone (I never really got to know anything about those guys, who were they?)
Ekliptika is gone.
NFC is gone.
Sparta is gone.
ERA is gone.
G disbanded.
Trust disbanded.
D2 was formed.
IRON left 0.0 and conquered their space back.

And you say nothing has happened in the general area?
Where have you been the last year or so?
As for the political athmosphere the blob of EC was a small thing compared to any of the above...

Habraka
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2007.01.30 15:54:00 - [440]
 

Originally by: Hast

you need to get some new things to whine about, but hey... Not much of signifigance has happened in the north since then has it?


I wouldn't know, I was busy roleplaying in empire Very Happy. I came back to IRON though, after hearing 'heretic' and 'terrorist' one time to many...

Khermine Baddenash
Amarr
Sehmy Trading
Posted - 2007.01.30 15:59:00 - [441]
 

Edited by: Khermine Baddenash on 30/01/2007 16:00:25
Originally by: Hast
waaah waaah wah EC-P8R waaah

that happened like ten months ago?

you need to get some new things to whine about, but hey... Not much of signifigance has happened in the north since then has it? Rolling Eyes


This is not the true. The North rebuilded its forces for nearly a year until it was strong enough to conquoer the evil empire of the ISS. Awaiting till the ISS's forces were engaged in a war of the POS in the south and that all their hangars had been stolen by the goon agents the north chose its moment well. Having conquered the ISS, maybe the North is now strong enough to amount level 4 mission in Taisy. Fear them.

Of course some of the North corporations were paid 20billion isk for their shares in one of the station, and the North got to take it back for free, so that is nearly 2 billion profit of each month to pay for the rebuilding.

Rod Blaine
Gallente
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2007.01.30 16:01:00 - [442]
 

Originally by: Laboratus
Not much? Your kidding me right?



The Five is gone. (eerh yeah, didn't that happen before ec-p ?)
FE is gone. (same thing)
PA is gone. (same thing)
KAOS is gone. (KAOS lived in the south did it not ?)
NBSI is gone. (see point one)
TBB is gone. (not north)
BFR is gone. (who ?)
Sunstrom dominion is gone (Who ?)
Ekliptika is gone. (who? )
NFC is gone. (Who ?)
Sparta is gone. (Who ?)
ERA is gone. (Who, oh yeah, i remember them)
G disbanded. (D2 was formed)
Trust disbanded. (D2 was formed)
D2 was formed. (g/Trust disbanded)

So like, apart from a reorganisation within what is now D2 and used to be g/trust caused by (ao) the ec-p thing, what exactly did happen after the ec-p deal ? The whole fe/pa/5/nbsi thing was more or less over by then if I recall right, and everything else is rather unimpressive in the grand scheme of things isn't it ?

Sure, I may be wrong about the exact timing of the .5. effort in tribute/venal ending, but on the other hand is there anythign else really worth mentioning that's been going on up north ?

Not really is there ?


Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.01.30 16:10:00 - [443]
 

Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 30/01/2007 16:08:06
Originally by: LUKEC

If you only knew how your corp mates are begging for vouchers to get in DICE.

I guess your charm comes in limited supply.



I seriously doubt you know anything at all about my corp mates Laughing

If you look, you will see that some are actually ex BOB Razz

But as with most of you guys, you will just about say "anything" to get a reaction.

On a more consructive note, the average DICE post is one hell of a lot better than the usual repugnent smack from the BOB spin machine.
So if you dont mind LUKEC, lets keep this on track and hope that we have some real good fights ahead Very Happy

Edit...fire 59, you call us the NAP train and the Blob monster, so why on earth would you be suprised when we do both Laughing

Laboratus
Gallente
Invicta.
Cry Havoc.
Posted - 2007.01.30 16:18:00 - [444]
 

Originally by: Rod Blaine
Originally by: Laboratus
Not much? Your kidding me right?



The Five is gone. (eerh yeah, didn't that happen before ec-p ?)
FE is gone. (same thing)
PA is gone. (same thing)
KAOS is gone. (KAOS lived in the south did it not ?)
NBSI is gone. (see point one)
TBB is gone. (not north)
BFR is gone. (who ?)
Sunstrom dominion is gone (Who ?)
Ekliptika is gone. (who? )
NFC is gone. (Who ?)
Sparta is gone. (Who ?)
ERA is gone. (Who, oh yeah, i remember them)
G disbanded. (D2 was formed)
Trust disbanded. (D2 was formed)
D2 was formed. (g/Trust disbanded)

So like, apart from a reorganisation within what is now D2 and used to be g/trust caused by (ao) the ec-p thing, what exactly did happen after the ec-p deal ? The whole fe/pa/5/nbsi thing was more or less over by then if I recall right, and everything else is rather unimpressive in the grand scheme of things isn't it ?

Sure, I may be wrong about the exact timing of the .5. effort in tribute/venal ending, but on the other hand is there anythign else really worth mentioning that's been going on up north ?

Not really is there ?




You can back track some by for example looking at the maps or reading the wiki history.

D2 was formed just after the EC blob. D2& allies were the ones who threw .5. and FE out of the north after all.

Both .5. and KAOS moved from south to north at some point.
All on the list lived in the north after the formation of D2, hence after the EC blob. It just seems you haven't been paying attention.
Oh, I forgot the whole NORAD/RISE/YOUWHAT thing. from the list.

Anyways, a lot has happened and it hasn't always been such a picnic here. From the look of things, the western front has been a lot more quiet than the north, with just the FIX war. Sout has been the eye of the storm, but I guess that can be expected...

Sepharina
Amarr
Universal Army
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2007.01.30 16:21:00 - [445]
 

This whole thread is so strange. Whats glaringly obvious is how BoB just assume they are right about everything and anything. And how often has the word "panic" been used by them?? Followed by "tinfoil hats" and "tic toc". Its geting beyond boring.
Its like;
* If someone says that BoB are attacking.. they are wrong and panicking
* If people rightfully band together to protect themselves against a possible attack, they are panicking, although if they didnt they would be called stupid..
* If BoB dont engage people its because they had good reason, if other people dont engage BoB its because they are scared and BoB are uber....
* BoB can gank in huge numbers to destroy their oponents and its sound tactics and good organisation, if others do they same they are scared to fight on even terms and you get lots of "hahahaha" responses from them

At the end of the day, you know damn well that the Northern Alliances have done the right thing by grouping together. Not to do so would be ridiculous. Even if nothing comes of this, it would still be the correct move given history. Everybody can see all these points clear as day, apart from BoB who are embarking on a huge denial fest. What are you going to do if/when you finally attack? Say "hahah we were just throwing u off the sent and now all your POS's are ours!" Wooooh, well done....

So please quit it with all this "you are all wrong, we are right and we own EvE, tic toc tic toc wait and see ahahaha" responses. You're an interesting bunch who bring a lot of colour to EvE, and yes it would be boring without you, but thats all. People have hit the nail on the head with their responses and you know it.

Trefnis
Minmatar
LOST IDEA
C0VEN
Posted - 2007.01.30 16:26:00 - [446]
 

Originally by: fire 59
If you lack the confidence in your fc's to fight without the blob then i feel sorry for you tbh, in small gang's and fleet's, i have total faith in our's regardless of the outcome, shame you don't share that same confidence.






I find it really funny from an alliance that bring titan and two motherships to camp a-1 against < 10 bs inside Laughing

Rod Blaine
Gallente
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2007.01.30 16:31:00 - [447]
 

Ah yes ofc, you're right. The whole .5. thing happened after D2 was formed yes. Still, that's all like part of the whole anti-bob nappage deal, so I was rather asking about stuff other then that really.

But ok, condeded then, stuff happens up north too, just not very big stuff.

Hast
Amarr
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.01.30 16:31:00 - [448]
 

Originally by: Laboratus

D2 was formed just after the EC blob. D2& allies were the ones who threw .5. and FE out of the north after all.



wrong.

ATUK disbanded and formed DICE pretty much simoultanously as the ec- op and hence the 5 left the north...

We even removed every POS claiming sov in the regions that the 5 claimed...

fire 59
Gallente
Destructive Influence
KenZoku
Posted - 2007.01.30 16:35:00 - [449]
 

Originally by: Trefnis
Originally by: fire 59
If you lack the confidence in your fc's to fight without the blob then i feel sorry for you tbh, in small gang's and fleet's, i have total faith in our's regardless of the outcome, shame you don't share that same confidence.






I find it really funny from an alliance that bring titan and two motherships to camp a-1 against < 10 bs inside Laughing


Hahaha, if they couldn't slip by 3 ships they deserved to be camped, arf Laughing


NATMav
Caldari
F.R.E.E. Explorer
The Initiative.
Posted - 2007.01.30 16:44:00 - [450]
 

Originally by: Hast
Originally by: Laboratus

D2 was formed just after the EC blob. D2& allies were the ones who threw .5. and FE out of the north after all.



wrong.

ATUK disbanded and formed DICE pretty much simoultanously as the ec- op and hence the 5 left the north...

We even removed every POS claiming sov in the regions that the 5 claimed...


So who were the players in the BKG siege again?

G or D2 vs. The Five with ATUK or The Five without ATUK?


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